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Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 9 1-June-2015

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:11 pm

Tenez wrote:Gasquet is a tragedy!

Nothing more painful with a player with ability and all the talent in the world and can't mentally hold it together when required. Just squandered 3 BPs!

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:12 pm

Tenez wrote:I think Djoko will get him on Weds. Especially knowing that Nadal tires. But Djoko can have some big slumps as well.
Djoko is playing 500 miles from his max right now. It's like he's playing against a 6 year old and trying to keep things friendly. The step from this to Nadal will be significant but if he pushes his 'never say die' button, he'll be fine.

The last 30 minutes of switching between Lenglen and Chartier have given me comfort. Nitb is right: Nadal will panic against Djoko.

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:14 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet is a tragedy!

Nothing more painful with a player with ability and all the talent in the world and can't mentally hold it together when required. Just squandered 3 BPs!
But breaks..

I don't blame Gasquet. He had a good tournament, even had a few strong moments mentally, but Djoko is just too good.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:15 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Tenez wrote:Gasquet is a tragedy!

Nothing more painful with a player with ability and all the talent in the world and can't mentally hold it together when required. Just squandered 3 BPs!
Great technique certainly! Talent I am not that sure. He would need to stand closer to the baseline. Though one reason he doesn't stand close is probably his mouvement/footwork is not that good.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:17 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:I think Djoko will get him on Weds. Especially knowing that Nadal tires. But Djoko can have some big slumps as well.
Djoko is playing 500 miles from his max right now. It's like he's playing against a 6 year old and trying to keep things friendly. The step from this to Nadal will be significant but if he pushes his 'never say die' button, he'll be fine.

The last 30 minutes of switching between Lenglen and Chartier have given me comfort. Nitb is right: Nadal will panic against Djoko.

Nadal will panic but Djoko is fragile on the big occasions.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:22 pm

One sided matches are only fun when Fed is involved.....the others one sided matches are frustrating!

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:46 pm

Tenez wrote:One sided matches are only fun when Fed is involved.....the others one sided matches are frustrating!
Except when Nadal gets a beating smiley

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:02 pm

Tenez wrote:Regardless of nadal's form...bit disappointing from Sock as I was more impressed by Chardy's FH than Sock's for sure.

Seeing them both last year, Chardy's FH is definitely better, it's absolutely stinging on grass, but his movement seems limited, a bit like Gasquet, never in the centre of baseline, also doesn't move in as much as he could or should.

Sock's movement is looser and relaxed.

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Post by DECIMA on Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:17 pm

I wonder what the maximum I can withdraw from my bank account is.

Pretty sure having money placed on Djoko on Wednesday is considerably more secure than in Santander.

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Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:29 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:I wonder what the maximum I can withdraw from my bank account is.

Pretty sure having money placed on Djoko on Wednesday is considerably more secure than in Santander.

He, he...this reminds me of:


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Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:36 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:it must be so gutting for Chardy to see the way Murray went as they were of the same build when young.
Yes, but Murray got so much support from LTA, almost a card blanche...and similar to Nadal, he got his head down and worked hard. And did all it took to get the "edge".

Talented people find it difficult to push themselves to and beyond their limits. Some simply don't want to. It's a big step into soulless land with no return...
Just look at Stakh...

Chardy may be gutted, but he sleeps well.
You lot don't half talk rubbish some times. I'm sure Murray sleeps fine too.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:39 pm

luvsports! wrote:Sock being put back in the draw...... 
How many forums got the pleasure of this one!?

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 9 1-June-2015

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:38 pm

« C'est le n°1 mondial. Je ne vais donc pas me décourager non plus pour cela. Il est plus fort, tout simplement. Il n'y a rien d'autre à dire. Il était plus fort, il tape mieux, il sert mieux, il retourne mieux. Après, j'ai essayé de jouer, on a joué quand même deux heures. Il a une telle qualité de frappe de balle que c'est difficile, il donne très, très rarement un retour, il court partout, c'est dur. Il est incroyable, il joue un tennis à la perfection. La frappe de balle des deux côtés fait qu'il n'y a jamais un moment où tu peux rentrer dans le court, où tu as un peu de temps pour jouer »
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Gasquet on Novak: "He is the No. 1 worldwide . So I will not be discouraged by my performance today. He is stronger , simply. There is nothing else to say . He was stronger , he hits the ball better, he serves better, he returns better. After I tried to play , we played still two hours. He has such a ball striking quality that's hard , it gives very, very rarely easy return , he runs everywhere, it's hard. It is incredible , he plays tennis to perfection. The ball hit on both sides that there is never a time when you can return to the court, where you have a little time to play,"

It's bizarre how the 2 evolved from the very beginning. There were quite close level wise. I actually think that Gasquet was better but more nervous already.

2007 Tennis Masters Cup
China Hard RR Gasquet, Richard
6-4, 6-2 Stats
2007 Estoril
Portugal Clay F Djokovic, Novak
7-6(7), 0-6, 6-1 Stats
2006 ATP Masters Series Madrid
Spain Hard R32 Djokovic, Novak
7-6(2), 1-6, 6-1 Stats

That's their first 3 encounters. Pretty close. With twice Gasquet had teh possibility to win in 2 sets....before folding.

I think besides the fitness, Gasquet never seemed to bothered being a "great". While Djoko had not much to start with but certainly with much more willpower.


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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 9 1-June-2015

Post by ... on Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:46 pm

Interesting...I was just reading Nole's post match interview:

“Prva tri gema trajali su duže od dvadeset minuta, mislim da sam tu uspeo da slomim njegov otpor, fizički pre svega – on nije fizički preterano spreman, više igra na talenat i veštinu udaraca koje poseduje. Takođe, dva duga meča koja je imao uticali su na njega da ne bude svež. Posle tog trećeg gema stvari su došle na svoje mesto, on se povukao i počeo da pravi greške, a ja sam podigao nivo igre. Bio sam vrlo čvrst sa osnovne linije, nisam mu davao priliku da predvidi moje udarce."


"First three games lasted over twenty minutes, I think I managed to break his resistance there, firstly physically - physically he is not prepared that well, he plays more using his talent, the skill of his shots.
Also, he wasn't fresh because of two long matches he had played.

After those three games, everything fell in its place, he withdrew and started making mistakes, I raised my level. I was firm from the base-line, and I didn't give bim a chance to anticipate my shots".

Consider this your early Christmas present, T. Winking

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:58 pm

noleisthebest wrote:"First three games lasted over twenty minutes, I think I managed to break his resistance there, firstly physically - physically he is not prepared that well, he plays more using his talent, the skill of his shots.
Also, he wasn't fresh because of two long matches he had played.

After those three games, everything fell in its place, he withdrew and started making mistakes, I raised my level. I was firm from the base-line, and I didn't give bim a chance to anticipate my shots".

Consider this your early Christmas present, T. Winking
Yes...exactly! Professional tennis players don't actually want to use their talent. It's about working hard and making sure their game is not reliant on something as unreliable as talent.

This is why Nadal, Murray and Djoko have been so consistent in slams.

..And then there is Federer...a one in a century genius!

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Re: Roland Garros 2015: Daily Prediction Game, Day 9 1-June-2015

Post by luvsports! on Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:47 am

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Sock being put back in the draw...... 
How many forums got the pleasure of this one!?

17. It was just that good.

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