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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:17 pm

luvsports! wrote:What has Mauresmo done for MUrray?
Can she doing anything for him?
He has no plan B.

No she can't.....No-one can cause Djoko has reached that confidence level where he can play relaxe. It's down to murray to relax and use his power to pace the ball up instead of muscling it....problem is taht he uses that "safe" baseground game to get through more talented players like Mannarino who can't move as well as Djok but v Djkoo there is no solution....I doubt he will beat him again now.

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:20 pm

luvsports! wrote:What has Mauresmo done for MUrray?
Can she doing anything for him?
He has no plan B.

There is a funny saying..."you can't make a pie out of ****."

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:22 pm

All of a sudden... 15-40

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:23 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:What has Mauresmo done for MUrray?
Can she doing anything for him?
He has no plan B.

There is a funny saying..."you can't make a pie out of ****."
We made two with Djoko and Nadal! Winking


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:25 pm

luvsports! wrote:All of a sudden... 15-40
But what a classy and gutsy hold, slamming the door in Murray's face...

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Too good djoko. Murray second rate.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:34 pm

What a point to win the game...awesome!
He's so good when he's relaxed.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:39 pm

Serve it out now, Nole.
Please!

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:44 pm

Brilliant match from Nole.

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:16 pm

Fed pinning Raonic's BH.
Working nicely.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:17 pm

I can't believe it, according to Goodall, Raonic has insured his...HAIR!!!

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:19 pm

Fed as usual relaxed from the start.
Analog beauty....

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:22 pm

Fed looking a little stiff, hopefully he'll loosen up.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:24 pm

What a half-volley from Fed, dear me...

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:27 pm

Again, Raonic runs around his BH to hit an inside out FH after Fed's return and misses.
BP Fed.

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:29 pm

Wow, Goodall on fire today smiley
Just mentioned how Fed stands on the baseline to take Raonic's serve early compared to Nadal who was 8m behind it yesterday.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:34 pm

Raonic has a deceptively good slice.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:35 pm

Looks like both are waiting for the TB.
No urgency about Fed.

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:39 pm

luvsports! wrote:Raonic has a deceptively good slice.

Yes, that was a nice point, but so much more can be done with slice than just sending it crosscourt.
He basically replaced his DBH in both shots as he doesn't trust it and it worked.
It was more out of panic, although it looked really good.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:41 pm

BHTDL return winner from Fed, wow!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:43 pm

Looks like Fed's trying to turn the heat on, but Raonic serving steadily, almost regularly acing him on the ad side.

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:45 pm

Fed serves to love, 5:5

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:51 pm

Raonic grits it out and saves 2 BPs.
Fed not trying to hide his frustration.

Anotjer BP,

Go fed!!! diva

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:52 pm

fed breaks!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:56 pm

I love how Federer served the set out, so aggressive, not a single spare shot.
What a statement...

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:58 pm

It's interesting how Fed chose to play in the game he broke Raonic, he took all the pace off and confused Raonic who didn't adjust but kept belting the ball.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:02 pm

Another dull & predictable 5 inside out FHs in a row point from Raonic and Fed earns 2 BPs at the start of 2nd set with a beautiful, short sliced BH Raonic nets.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:03 pm

I can watch Fed's BH all day...

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Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:05 pm

And he breaks with a BHDTL winner love love love

He won all the points in that game with his BH, every one was different and analogically magical smiley

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by truffin1 on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:06 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Wow, Goodall on fire today smiley
Just mentioned how Fed stands on the baseline to take Raonic's serve early compared to Nadal who was 8m behind it yesterday.

Courier had some really good commentary the other night-  he gives credit to Rafa as a top 3 all time player- said Fed is GOAT, but Nadal might be the toughest one match matchup in history of tennis...    He began to speak about how amazing it was that Federer was able to continuously adjust his style, his game as needed and it was because of his uber talent.  Said has so many tools in the toolbox, he can adjust like no other before.  He said he thinks tennis has caught up to Nadal and that Nadal would have to seriously consider adjusting in a big way to remain at the top over the next 3 years.  He said he needed to start taking the ball earlier, stepping up to the baseline on return and during points, cut the points shorter, etc, but he had serious doubts if Nadal was capable of morphing like Federer has.  He said "Rafa hasn't had to adjust much in his career for anyone. eventually Djokovic gave him trouble and he was able to make some small adjustmensts, but I'm not sure Nadal has the type of talent and tools Federer has to really move with the times and become a different player.   

The feeling for Courier was Nadals time was getting short.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:06 pm

And now in his rampant mode....

I want to hear what the digitally OBVIOUS school of thought has to say Whistle

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:09 pm

Good to hear truffles. smiley

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:11 pm

truffin1 wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Wow, Goodall on fire today smiley
Just mentioned how Fed stands on the baseline to take Raonic's serve early compared to Nadal who was 8m behind it yesterday.

Courier had some really good commentary the other night-  he gives credit to Rafa as a top 3 all time player- said Fed is GOAT, but Nadal might be the toughest one match matchup in history of tennis...    He began to speak about how amazing it was that Federer was able to continuously adjust his style, his game as needed and it was because of his uber talent.  Said has so many tools in the toolbox, he can adjust like no other before.  He said he thinks tennis has caught up to Nadal and that Nadal would have to seriously consider adjusting in a big way to remain at the top over the next 3 years.  He said he needed to start taking the ball earlier, stepping up to the baseline on return and during points, cut the points shorter, etc, but he had serious doubts if Nadal was capable of morphing like Federer has.  He said "Rafa hasn't had to adjust much in his career for anyone. eventually Djokovic gave him trouble and he was able to make some small adjustmensts, but I'm not sure Nadal has the type of talent and tools Federer has to really move with the times and become a different player.   

The feeling for Courier was Nadals time was getting short.
And that's where he loses respect...
I suppose that's his way of saying what we all think but really wrapped up so Nadal does not look too bad.
Nadal can't adjust even if he tried.
His way of adjusting is halving his season in order to give best shot for RG.

Why doesn't he serve and volley like Federer?

8 metres behind the baseline yesterday, come on...
How can that be considered great!!!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:49 pm

14 slams i reckon.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by summerblues on Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:57 pm

noleisthebest wrote:8 metres behind the baseline yesterday, come on...
How does that factor in anything?

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by DECIMA on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:03 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:8 metres behind the baseline yesterday, come on...
How does that factor in anything?
Because he's really far behind the baseline, it changes everything, don't you get it ??

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by DECIMA on Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:03 pm

Tenez we have an annoying tab thingy on the left had side of the page

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:03 am

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:8 metres behind the baseline yesterday, come on...
How does that factor in anything?

You'll see if you put analog glasses on.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:18 am

truffin1 wrote:The feeling for Courier was Nadals time was getting short.
They all get their info on OTF! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:21 am

Kim Jong-Un wrote:Tenez we have an annoying tab thingy on the left had side of the page

I know I put it by mistake and not sure how to undo it......ROTLA....Help please!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:34 am

Sadly I did not watch the Fed/Rao match but I saw most of teh Djoko v Murray match and frankly it was a terrible match. How can we talk about the great 4 when watching that. Nadal is actually more fun to watch nowadays. Sure Djoko brings the ball back and sends a good regular ball...but he is certainly not a great shot maker, is he? A brilliant Hewitt, but a Hewitt...BB was right about that.

Murray was moving like a tank but firing like a water pistol! Pathetic. What's the point Murray having so much muscles if it to play like a teanager. Frankly Kokki or Coric would have done better today.

Fed will lose tomorrow cause on those slow court Djoko's Bh will be more solid than Fed's BH......but the game will suffer and Fed will make it look better than it is.....really sad.

Frustrating. Well done Larry! Your man lost yesterday and now the tennis world will be at a loss too.

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Post by truffin1 on Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:44 am

I found these stats on another site. They belong in the goat thread which I couldnt find. Just puts into context what the nearly 34 year old weak era federer has done in this supposed golden era.

Since RG 2014, Fed is 15-2 against top 10 opponents, one of the better 17 match runs against top 10 opponents in history. He's 33 years old.


For comparison, Sampras was 6-4 TOTAL against top 10 players after turning 30.
Agassi: 31-29
Lendl: 25-19
Becker: 3-3
Edberg: 7-5
McEnroe: 11-23
Wilander: 2-8
Courier: 0-0
Federer: 47-24

Sampras + Becker + Edberg + McEnroe +Courier + Wilander= 29-43
Federer: 47-24

EVERY #1 player (13 players) since Lendl other than Agassi and their aggregate accomplishments after turning 30:

332 match wins
6 titles [One slam, USO]
6 other finals made
1 slam final, 2 QFs

FEDERER

231 match wins
16 titles [including Wimbledon, WTF undefeated (oldest to win), Cincy 2X, IW, Madrid, Shanghai)
13 other finals made
Slam RU, 5 slam SFs made,


GOAT

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Post by DECIMA on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:02 am

Federer has done incredibly well, he is one of the all time greats, although I can't remember anyone saying the current era is golden.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:08 am

Kim Jong-Un wrote:Federer has done incredibly well, he is one of the all time greats
Really??? That is a bold statement.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:10 am

noleisthebest wrote:You'll see if you put analog glasses on.
Cool glasses that let you see what you want to see?

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Post by DECIMA on Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:12 am

I learn how to be bold from watching Nadal moonball Thumbs Up

Also... you haven't replied to my question on the other thread just yet Winking

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:30 am

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:You'll see if you put analog glasses on.
Cool glasses that let you see what you want to see?

No, those are called blinkers.
Analog glasses allow you to look at a player in colour, not black and white.

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Post by ... on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:33 am

Kim Jong-Un wrote:Federer has done incredibly well, he is one of the all time greats, although I can't remember anyone saying the current era is golden.
Actually I don't think he's done incredibly well, he could've done much more had conditions not slowed down.
Nadal is the one who's overachieved and done incredibly well.

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Post by ... on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:40 am

Tenez wrote:
Murray was moving like a tank but firing like a water pistol! Pathetic. What's the point Murray having so much muscles if it to play like a teanager. Frankly Kokki or Coric would have done better today.
Laugh
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Fed will lose tomorrow cause on those slow court Djoko's Bh will be more solid than Fed's BH......but the game will suffer and Fed will make it look better than it is.....really sad.
Frustrating. Well done Larry! Your man lost yesterday and now the tennis world will be at a loss too.
I agree, after seeing Nole yesterday, he's the favourite, he rules slow hard courts.
I wouldn't say Fed's without a chance, but it will be very hard for him, a lot will depend on his serving.
Also, despite winning his last 3 matches in straight sets, he'll be feeling it in his body today.
Nole coming into final both in his physical prime and fresher legs due to that w/ from Tomic.


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:07 pm

So whose is around tonight for the match?

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