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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:45 pm

Kimmy! Laugh
What are you going to do with all that cash?
My best bet was putting a fiver on Fognini to beat Nadal, got £55 back Winking

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:49 pm

Well I'm hoping not to win anything Bubbly

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:52 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Rosol 3:3 in the third set!
There is something so endearing about him, can't explain it.

Go Rossy! diva

Actually I know what it is.
There is a DIY feel about him, he looks llike a guy who's just walked on the court from the street, and he plays with a crazy abandon.
But at the same time so totally unpretentious and properly humble.

Berdych trying to intimidate him with frowning etc...as if Rosol should bow down to him like Spaniards do to Nadal...

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:55 pm

Break him now Tomas.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:59 pm

Come on !!

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Post by Tenez on Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:03 pm

I'd love you to have those £80.....declining Simon beating peak Nadal....again!

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:21 pm

NITB, your comment disappeared, but yes absolutely.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:22 pm

Tenez wrote:I'd love you to have those £80.....declining Simon beating peak Nadal....again!
Did Simon beat Nadal recently ?

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:58 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:NITB, your comment disappeared, but yes absolutely.
Well, looks like your £80 is gone bye-bye.... Laugh

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Post by DEC1M8 on Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:41 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Kim Jong-Un wrote:NITB, your comment disappeared, but yes absolutely.
Well, looks like your £80 is gone bye-bye.... Laugh
Super news

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:06 am

Fed's serve looks superb today.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:09 am

...and FH...hitting it so cleanly, just awesome!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:36 am

Aaaand BH...surviving toughest rallies now...with the occasional beauty of a winner.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:40 am

How is sock playing?

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:49 am

As well as Fed is allowing him to. Fed very sharp, so you can imagine.
Mr Sock was good in the first set, but Fed's just too quick for him

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:12 am

Can the balls make a difference this year?
They certainly look easier to control in the evening...


Nadal:

"With a normal ball during day and night there is differences, but with that ball is completely dramatic how the things change," he said. During the day especially the ball is very, like you are touching a stone. There is no feeling.
But that's what we have today. We have that ball. I think ATP and fans deserve a better ball to have  a better show.
I think the players said what they have to say. Is not new. Something that happens since a while. I didn't understand very well, because the brand that is making that ball they say now is a new ball, but still bad and I don't understand why. Because if it's a new brand creating new ball, you can understand that they make not a bad ball. But the same brand five years ago had a great ball, very good ball. Is difficult to understand why today they are not able to do it."



Murray:

"I don't know if it's only the balls. I think it's probably a combination of a few things. You know, for me, the balls don't feel as lively … when I play at 9:30 in the morning or in the evening they don't feel as lively, but then during the day it's ridiculous how high they bounce and how quick they move through the air and jump off the court. They said they made some changes to the balls. I don't know how much of a difference they made.


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Post by Tenez on Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:49 am

noleisthebest wrote:Can the balls make a difference this year?
They certainly look easier to control in the evening...


Nadal:

"With a normal ball during day and night there is differences, but with that ball is completely dramatic how the things change," he said. During the day especially the ball is very, like you are touching a stone. There is no feeling.
But that's what we have today. We have that ball. I think ATP and fans deserve a better ball to have [a b]better show.[/b]
I think the players said what they have to say. Is not new. Something that happens since a while. I didn't understand very well, because the brand that is making that ball they say now is a new ball, but still bad and I don't understand why. Because if it's a new brand creating new ball, you can understand that they make not a bad ball. But the same brand five years ago had a great ball, very good ball. Is difficult to understand why today they are not able to do it."
He considers himself and his game being the "show". If the ball suits different players..then that's not "show" anymore as he is not part of it.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:57 am

I know...the most selfish player ever!
Imagine if he was running The Show...

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:19 am

2 year rankings.... 1 minute between serves.....

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:40 pm

Nole gets a w/o from Tomic (back injury).
He'll have a pair of fresh legs for Murray tomorrow, brilliant!

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Post by summerblues on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:03 am

Too bad about Tomic.  He has been - finally - playing quite well and I was looking forward to his match against Nole.

So Nole gets two days off - Fognini effect could strike again.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:48 am

He, he...Fognini effect...those were the days!

2011 Streak and that SF, the most dramatic match ever, it had everything ...so much emotion, drama and intensity: x,y,z factor, charisma ,all genuine...no need for any  PR-ing, solar eclipse had nothing on it!
I remember being completely caught up in Nole madness...what a year that was, right down to me being kicked out of Wimbledon final on my first ever visit there Wah Laugh
I loved it all...

No, this does not come even close.
Murray?
The imposter on the big scene, not in a million years...when did he ever play a memorable match?

But, yes, shame about Tomic, he played very well this week, I enjoyed the display of his hands, quite something.
Not looking forward to tennis in Nole-Murray but want to see Murray beaten again...in a bye-bye good riddance kind of way...


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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:01 am

It's so frustrating when a player pulls out at such an important stage.

The finalist of the bottom draw will be in a poor state in the final. 3 tough matches in a row.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:48 pm

Nadal playing after Federer, which may mean physically he has less time to recover for the semi. It's BO3, so not a big issue, but...

If this was the other way round, with Federer playing after Nadal, I'm almost certain either Tenez/NITB would be calling conspiracy and talking about how rigged the ATP is in Nadal's favour etc.

That's the issue with claiming conspiracy on 50:50 decisions, you're convinced it's a conspiracy 50% of the time.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:30 pm

True.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:58 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:Nadal playing after Federer, which may mean physically he has less time to recover for the semi. It's BO3, so not a big issue, but...

If this was the other way round, with Federer playing after Nadal, I'm almost certain either Tenez/NITB would be calling conspiracy and talking about how rigged the ATP is in Nadal's favour etc.

That's the issue with claiming conspiracy on 50:50 decisions, you're convinced it's a conspiracy 50% of the time.
Absolute non sense AGAIN. I did check, like you obviously, and the matches follow each others so there is very little advantage.

We have never made a fuss when the matches are played right after each others. We have however raised the problem when there 4 hours or more between the matches and as far as i remember made the point essentially in teh semi. Something they do in many TMS1000 including madrid where Nadal always plays first.


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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:58 pm

luvsports! wrote:True.
Not true at all!

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Post by truffin1 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:17 pm

Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:True.
Not true at all!

Well the guy who is middle aged SHOULD get the extra 1 hour rest compared to the guy in his physical prime of 20's!

Given the entire tournament conditions were designed to help Nadal win which even most Nadal fans can recognize, I hardly think it unfair to give Fed the first match.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:44 pm

truffin1 wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:True.
Not true at all!

Well the guy who is middle aged SHOULD get the extra 1 hour rest compared to the guy in his physical prime of 20's!

Given the entire tournament conditions were designed to help Nadal win which even most Nadal fans can recognize, I hardly think it unfair to give Fed the first match.

I kind of agree though in theory age should not intervene.

But I bet that the 2 oclock slot for Nadal was picked up as it's probably the hottest (highest bounce) and worst sun position for a tall right hander.

As I said many times, probably nothing is left to chance with the guy who meticulously places his water bottles under his chair. As we know, it;s not the placemement of those bottles which is important, it's the extra seconds it gives him and extra seconds his opponent is left wondering .

I noticed recently that in that Miami 05 final, the famous last one where Nadal plays within 20s, that Nadal back then was also crossing the net at change of end without waiting for his opponent. Since, he has been waiting by the net his opponent crosses first......just to grasp those extra resting secs.

It dawns on me that not being sure how the referees would cope with the 35+ sec between points that Nadal orchestrated a whole protocol to grasp secs there and then if all could not be taken between points. And this is why we ended up with matches taking  systematically 40% extra time than other matches where Nadal was not involved.

I pointed recently than in Dubai 06 Nadal takes very often a 40s break between points....unbelievable when one thinks about it....in retrospect......and Kim dares calling us "conspirationists"? ......Or is it him being gullible and credulous when it comes to Rafa. Did not he believe in Nadal's OCD? Laugh.........erm .

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Post by DEC1M8 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:49 pm

Tenez wrote:
We have never made a fuss when the matches are played right after each others.

Hah ! Oh really...

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:14 pm

Federer is playing so well, Berdych doesn't know what to do...completely outplayed.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:29 pm

bagel hehe Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:02 pm

Nadal and Raonic look like a pair of idiots jumping in the tunnel...can't they just stand or walk with some athletic dignity...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:35 pm

I was right once again.....a 2pm start woudl be worst time for Rao's serving.

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Post by DEC1M8 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:37 pm

Tenez wrote:I was right once again.....a 2pm start woudl be worst time for Rao's serving.
Oh for crying out loud Doh

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:45 pm

Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Tenez wrote:I was right once again.....a 2pm start woudl be worst time for Rao's serving.
Oh for crying out loud Doh
Gullible Kim....Do you really think that when facing a server like Rao those things are overlooked? ATP Masters 1000: Indian Wells - Page 5 2355573927

Have you noticed how the sun doesn't affect Nadal's serve on either side?

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:51 pm

I have never seen Rafa stand so far back on return!

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:51 pm

Nadal...a picture of declining...belting the ball twice as hard as 10 years ago.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:57 pm

luvsports! wrote:I have never seen Rafa stand so far back on return!
It absolutely ridiculous.....just shows how much slow conds are important for him.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:58 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Nadal...a picture of declining...belting the ball twice as hard as 10 years ago.
I thought you were not watching! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:04 pm

Nadal trying to return early..... Doh

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:06 pm

6m behind the baseline! That's like half the court!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:15 pm

luvsports! wrote:6m behind the baseline! That's like half the court!
....for half the talent.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:19 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Nadal...a picture of declining...belting the ball twice as hard as 10 years ago.
I thought you were not watching! Winking
Blush

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:19 pm

Nadal is....how do you say....."pumped up"?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:20 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Nadal...a picture of declining...belting the ball twice as hard as 10 years ago.
I thought you were not watching! Winking
Blush
Life is too short.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:34 pm

Good resolve from Rao to get out of these games. Free game here, just swing!

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:41 pm

Blew it there Raonic.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:46 pm

Rao lost his serve against the sun...and struggled much more on his serve against the sun.....he will start the TB....against the sun .

yeah blew that first SP. Like everybody else did in their first encounters v Nadal.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:49 pm

Raonic needs all 1st serves here.

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