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The Nole-Nadal Debate

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Who Is Better: Djokovic Or Nadal?

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The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by ... on Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:36 pm

...is much more interesting than the GOAT one, I think.

Toni claims Nole is a better player, and I have to agree Winking

What about you?


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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by ... on Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:58 pm

OK, everybody!
I've added a poll and cast my vote Winking

I know you are all busy trying to survive Christmas shopping madness, but come on...this topic needs YOU!

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:29 am

In my opinion, its Nadal. I'l post some of my reasons a bit later.

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by ... on Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:19 pm

A reply at laaaaast!

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by Tenez on Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:03 pm

Of course Djoko is better. Since 2011 he leads Nadal 12/7 in their H2H and probably 6 slams to 4, more weeks at number 1 etc, more Masters, etc...

So Djoko is better. No news here.

Had Djoko been a year older the H2H would have been very different too.

However Djoko known for his "mental strength" has a pretty poor record of slams finals.....That will be difficult to shake off.

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by ... on Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:30 pm

Tenez wrote:Of course Djoko is better. Since 2011 he leads Nadal 12/7 in their H2H and probably 6 slams to 4, more weeks at number 1 etc, more Masters, etc...

So Djoko is better. No news here.

Had Djoko been a year older the H2H would have been very different too.

However Djoko known for his "mental strength" has a pretty poor record of slams finals.....That will be difficult to shake off.

I agree he lost several slams unnecessarily, and that's so frustrating, he could have easily had 10 by now.

I find him a superb competitor, with emotions being his Achilles heel.
Even in that exo yesterday, he managed to botch an overhead, not allowing the ball to bounce.

Nadal overachieved, Nole underachieved.

I won't even start to think what could have happened had the draws not been fixed for years...

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by BlueClay on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:36 am

noleisthebest wrote:...is much more interesting than the GOAT one, I think.

Toni claims Nole is a better player, and I have to agree Winking

Toni never said that. He said the following:

"Djokovic es un jugador casi a la altura de Federer. Por títulos RAFA NADAL es mejor que él, por juego no lo sé"

Translated to English this means that Toni said Nadal is superior to Djokovic in terms of titles won. In terms of actual game he doesn't know.

There is no way Djokovic is a better player than Nadal when Djokovic has not defeated Nadal in a slam since 2012 and their slam record is 9-3 for Nadal.  In best of three matches off clay you have the sense that Djokovic has the advantage but in best of five matches on or off clay it is a different story I feel.

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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by ... on Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:33 pm

Do you have a link to the full interview in Spanish?
The sentence you quoted looks taken out of context.


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Re: The Nole-Nadal Debate

Post by BlueClay on Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:40 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Do you have a link to the full interview in Spanish?
The sentence you quoted looks taken out of context.


I originally read that quote on twitter and it has been discussed at length at all of the major tennis forums.

This is the full quote:

"Djokovic es un grandísimo jugador, para mí es un jugador casi a la altura de Federer. Es muy bueno, no sé si es mejor o peor que Rafael. Por títulos, Rafael es mejor que él. Por juego, no lo sé, pero al final, que cada uno que opine lo que quiera. Está en su perfecto derecho”, señaló. "

http://www.abc.com.py/deportes/tenis/federer-es-el-mejor-de-la-historia-1311180.html

And here is the English translation:

"Djokovic is a great player, for me is a player almost up to Federer.  It's great, do not know if it's better or worse than Rafael.  For titles, Rafael is better than him.  What game do not know, but in the end, everyone who believes what he wants.  It is perfectly right."

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.abc.com.py/deportes/tenis/federer-es-el-mejor-de-la-historia-1311180.html&prev=search

So he is basically saying Nadal is better when it comes to titles but as for their games, he doesn't know and it is up for the individual to decide. He never said Djokovic is better.

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