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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:13 am


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Post by luvsports! on Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:58 pm

Tsonga looks like he is struggling from last week winning run.
Heavy defeat looming against Youzhny.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:24 pm

6:1, 6:4

Youzhny is doing well for an old guy....

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:48 pm

Federer-Pospisil tonight should be a good example of how an average player playing the modern game is able to challenge a 1st class talent simply because of the playing conditions and nothing else.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by summerblues on Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:07 pm

Dimi Sad

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:43 pm

Quite windy in Cinci, but Fed timing his serve beautifully.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:56 pm

Wind is really messing up the match, poor quality.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:01 pm

...but thankfully, Fed starting to attack (at last!), so match a bit more watchable now, 5:4.
Federer looks a bit bored, definitely not that engaged.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:04 pm

One set all...it's funny to see the contrast of ultra keen Pospisil and can't be bothered Federer.
Quite a dull match.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:21 pm

Federer does the wakey-wakey and is two breaks up in the 3rd.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:38 pm

Stan steamrolls Cilic in the last two sets for the loss of just 1 game!
JJ's good win over Dimi undone by a bad one against Benne Sad

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:44 pm

Murray loses the 1st set vs Isner.
He is yet to beat a top 10er i think this year, could be wrong.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Daniel on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:50 pm

I'd be very surprised if Murray ever won another Slam.  The injury was bad enough, but now it's the decline years too.  Unlike with Nadal, it was a real injury.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:21 pm

1 set all

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:15 pm

Good win Murray!

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:42 pm

Djoko really out of sorts. Loses the first set to Robredo.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:33 pm

Djoko out. What is going on?

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Post by Daniel on Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:48 pm

He is likely resting himself for US Open. Not going all out.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:15 pm

Maybe his mind is elsewhere? His wife? Soon to be a dad.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:10 am

luvsports! wrote:Djoko out. What is going on?

It's called "decline"! 

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:47 am

I'd advise anyone to watch the game at 1 all 3rd set between Fed/Monfils. Made of great points...considering how tired is federer after playingt 8 macthes in 10 days!


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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:09 am

Great match! Would recommend to watch and observe objectively......

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:05 am

Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:Djoko out. What is going on?

It's called "decline"! 

And yes, Djokovic is coming to the end now.  It's a growing slope in the next few years.  But that's not the num 1 reason he lost.  That's just not trying that hard... saving himself for US.  However, 2 years ago, he would have had more in the tank.  Age already having an effect.


Djokovic wins one or no matches at consecutive Masters 1000 tournaments for the first time since 2008 (first on hard since 2006).

Decline.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:37 am

Decline starts at birth FK.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:00 am

Tenez wrote:Great match! Would recommend to watch and observe objectively......
My wi-fi has been down so didn't see anything.
Glad Fed won.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:50 pm

I notice that all retrievers bar Nadal chose to be solely attacking when playing Federer.

Monfils, Murray, Djoko for instance are much more aggressive when playing Fed than any other player.....cause they know that pushing the ball won't be enough and they will on the court of exhaustion.

Monfils was very aggressive yesterday...hardly any retrieving which is I guess the reason he played very well.

Fed's footwork, volley reflexes were outstanding despite being completely exhausted. His FH was great which shows that his poor display at Toronto was clearly down to day conds as he clearly says in his presseer.

I am impressed....once again!

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:58 pm

Thanks, T.
Good to know the FH is alive. I saw the highlights, and it looks like Fed was in good mood.
The match against Pospisil was the complete opposite.

As for Murray, the mere thought of his tennis ages me.... 

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by truffin1 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:32 pm

Fed said after the match that he is leg weary.. I think 10 matches in 12 days or whatever it is are really cathing up to him.  Yet he scraps and fights.   Too bad he's tiring right when he has to meet one of the so called big 4-  but maybe beating Murray will give him a little bit of extra motivation.  I can't see Fed winning the title against a well rested opponent from the other half, but beating Murray would be nice, then maybe throttle it back in the semis.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:38 pm

Yes, I don't think he cares much about winning and losing though yesterday he seemed happy to have gone through. Murray had a close call yesterday saving a couple of MPs but I expect him to be super fit.

Did you watch the match Truffin? tired he looked but more on his face than on his legs...he did move pretty swiftly.

Murray will exploit Fed's tiredness by making him run as much as possible......this is the direction the game went 7 or more years ago!,,,but harder to do on a faster surface.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:08 pm

Tenez wrote:Decline starts at birth FK.

Nope.  It doesn't.  From birth up until around 21-25, your body is growing.  Brain connections are being made at a rapid rate, skin looks, feels, and is younger.  Muscle mass is greater. Mental tasks and most mental abilities are stronger.  Everything about a person is growing and getting better, until the 20s.

Then it's downhill...  faster and faster.  Even by 30, your hearing has decreased a lot, and you can no longer pick up the higher frequencies you once could. 

There is a wealth of scientific evidence on this subject.

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Post by truffin1 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:13 pm

He was moving well.  I think he got a little adrenalin rush in the 3rd set when he was frustrated with the linesman and umpire.      Great variety the whole night too.  He was able to crush some forehands as well which was great to see.

The court is playing strange though- don't you think? I don't know if it was the camera angles which were a little lower than usual, but seems like the ball sits up a lot on this court-- though the comm's keep talking about the low bounce and Cinci historically is low bounce.

Some of his presser is out and Fed says that he's got all the match play he needs in preparation for the US Open. Said he will play free against Murray and if he wins- great, if he loses-no big dea- he's got all the prep he needs.

I don't know if that's the mindset he needs to beat Murray, but if might lead to some high risk, exciting tennis.  Fed is going to try and end everything quick tonight IMO.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:54 pm

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Tenez wrote:Decline starts at birth FK.

Nope.  It doesn't.  From birth up until around 21-25, your body is growing.  Brain connections are being made at a rapid rate, skin looks, feels, and is younger.  Muscle mass is greater. Mental tasks and most mental abilities are stronger.  Everything about a person is growing and getting better, until the 20s.

Then it's downhill...  faster and faster.  Even by 30, your hearing has decreased a lot, and you can no longer pick up the higher frequencies you once could. 

There is a wealth of scientific evidence on this subject.
I am afraid, you are talking non-sense again.

You max brain cells number is reached at 16! From 16 they stop multiplying and they are dying after that age. Does it mean you you are at your most intelligent/smartest phase at 16? no!

You have maximum flexibilty at birth, after you are only getting rustier.....does that make you able the do the most amazing thing at birth? no.

So your 23-25age has absolutely no fundation. And more obvious in tennis now than ever than all the 23-25 youngsters are nowhere to be seen at the top.

And you dare talking about evidence?

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:58 pm

truffin1 wrote:
The court is playing strange though- don't you think? I don't know if it was the camera angles which were a little lower than usual, but seems like the ball sits up a lot on this court-- though the comm's keep talking about the low bounce and Cinci historically is low bounce.
Yes it did not appear as quick as Toronto for instance but it still allowed for SVing. I think they both injected lots of topspin but you coudl see that if flattened the ball woudl fly.

Some of his presser is out and Fed says that he's got all the match play he needs in preparation for the US Open. Said he will play free against Murray and if he wins- great, if he loses-no big dea- he's got all the prep he needs.

I don't know if that's the mindset he needs to beat Murray, but if might lead to some high risk, exciting tennis.  Fed is going to try and end everything quick tonight IMO.

I think he'll try to beat him in 2 sets...I don;t think he'll fight for a 3rd set...and lots of SVing...I am sure to save energy.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:53 pm

Impressive result from Benneteau, he must be playing well.
I think he's been in 10 ATP finals and is yet to win a tournament, would be great if he could make another one!

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:58 pm

Here are the highlights from last night, impressive ball-striking from Fed (among everything else...):



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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:20 pm

Yes....great shots from both sides....

And great interview from Fed.

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=101919

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Post by summerblues on Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:10 pm

I would like Fed to win tonight but I agree that the most important thing is not to spend too much energy.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:17 am

Go Roger! diva

two points in, and both the BH & FH looking gooood!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:32 am

Murray: I can cry like Roger, but I wish I could decline like him...

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:42 am

Very interesting to see Murray attack exclusively when he is trying to save BPs.
Fed looking good, really nice to see him in his flow.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:48 am

Murray is playing his tractor game, grafting his repetitive pushing, whereas Federer is literally, simply playing.
That BH slice approach shot! dear me...
He is really in the mood tonight Bubbly

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:53 am

...and just like in Fed's pre-decline days, his serve comes to rescue!
And that's serving to "one of the best returners"

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Post by summerblues on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:00 am

I see Fed takes the first set 6:3, with two breaks of serve. Not watching, but stats seem to suggest he took the set rather easily.

Very cool.

...and on that happy note, good night all...

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:19 am

One lucky defensive fluke and Murray's crawled back into the match.
Fed allowing to him generously.
Not phased by it either.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:24 am

Murray "raising his level" by muscling the ball and trying to drain his opponent.
But Federrari delivers one if his finest FHs Magic

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:48 am

PURE GENIUS. FULL STOP.

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by luvsports! on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:50 am

ALLLLEZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:52 am

He, he it's 2.50 AM here, but I'm so glad I stayed up and the wi-fi worked diva

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Re: Masters 1000: Cincinnati

Post by Tenez on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:55 am

I saw the last 4 points. Pretty good from what I saw.

I feel some of his fans here wish he had lost! Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:56 am

Yes, FK is changing his name tomorrow Winking

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