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Post by ... on Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:59 pm

ATP 250/500 scenic route along the B roads has come to an end.
The Show is now hitting the concrete motorways of American hard courts, starting with two back to back Masters 1000 in Toronto and Cincinnati and ending with the last slam in USO.

As things stand, Nadal is the only top 10 player not taking part.

ATP 1000 Toronto, Rogers Cup, outdoor hard
 Since 1881, the best players in the world have showcased their skills on Canadian courts. Only Wimbledon and the U.S. Open have longer histories than this important Tour event. Every year, Montreal and Toronto share the task of hosting, in alternation, the Rogers Cup presented by National Bank, one of two ATP World Tour Masters 1000 tournaments held in August during the Emirates U.S. Open Series. The impressive list of past champions for this Canadian stop bear such legendary names as Bjorn Borg, Ivan Lendl, John McEnroe, Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, and two-time defending champion Novak Djokovic.

Draw
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2014/421/mds.pdf
Order of play
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2014/421/op.pdf

For some strange reason, Federer is seeded third behind Wawrinka.



Defending champion:


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Post by luvsports! on Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:48 pm

Nadal won it last year though Sad

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:55 pm

luvsports! wrote:Nadal won it last year though Sad
 Blush  !!!!

I am disappearing into a holiday vortex....I seem to be needing one urgently. My 7.50 flight tomorrow morning can't come quick enough!  
I'll leave the photo though...looks good! Winking

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:19 am

Here's the draw!
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2014/421/mds.pdf

Feds seeded no2.
Quite a lot of tough first matches for the big guns.
Murray in Djoko's quarter, Dimi in Stan's, Raonic in Berdych's & Ferrer in Feds.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:11 am

Nole has a tough draw.  Roger not so much.

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Post by ... on Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:37 am

Bonjour from NITB smiley

Just about to go to the beach after a long coffee on the balcony overlooking the sea and the exquisite Mediterranean flora.

Tough life, but someone's got to do it and it's finally my turn

Strangely, wi-fi this year seems to be struggling with streaming, so I may not be able to see (m)any matches, but I think I'll survive Winking


Hope we have two good weeks of tennis.

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Re: Masters 1000: Toronto

Post by ... on Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:28 pm

Just saw the last few games of Kurgyos - Giraldo.

What an exciting player!
Excellent ball-striking, easy power, huge persona, entertainer, big game, plays effortlessly...what's there not to like!


Next Murray, should be really good!

Nice matches tonight, esp Paire - Stan. Fed on, too.

Paire beat Stan in round one in Montreal last year, btw, ALLEZ diva

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Post by ... on Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:55 pm

A nice thing I noticed in France is tennis racquets...people carry them everywhere: at the airports, on buses, trains...they love tennis here!

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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:42 am

So sad Paire lost Sad
It must have been a great match as it went to 3rd set TB.
Apparently Paire even had a MP...
He so needed a good win, but hopefully this match will have encouraged him to keep going, so hard when you lose your ranking after injury.

I saw one game of Fed-Polansky...my oh my...THAT FH is back with a vengeance!
And not just the FH, but serve as well. He surely has been busy since Wimbledon.

Hard to gauge how much Polansky contributed to his own demolition, but a good win like this can't do any harm, can it?

Some super matches today, and thankfully not at 3 AM!!!

First Murray-Kyrgios, then Nole-Monfils! diva

I read that Murray has now completely recovered from his back injury and has been able to "train" 100% percent.
He'll need every bit of his fitness to chase Kirgy's bombs...really look forward to it.

Order of play is full of good matches in fact, these 1000 masters are pretty good like that as they cut out the first two rounds of slams and you get instant first-class matches from the word go.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:51 am

Bye Murray :P

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Re: Masters 1000: Toronto

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:17 pm

noleisthebest wrote:So sad Paire lost Sad
It must have been a great match as it went to 3rd set TB.
Apparently Paire even had a MP...
He so needed a good win, but hopefully this match will have encouraged him to keep going, so hard when you lose your ranking after injury.

I saw one game of Fed-Polansky...my oh my...THAT FH is back with a vengeance!
And not just the FH, but serve as well. He surely has been busy since Wimbledon.

Hard to gauge how much Polansky contributed to his own demolition, but a good win like this can't do any harm, can it?

Some super matches today, and thankfully not at 3 AM!!!

First Murray-Kyrgios, then Nole-Monfils! diva

I read that Murray has now completely recovered from his back injury and has been able to "train" 100% percent.
He'll need every bit of his fitness to chase Kirgy's bombs...really look forward to it.

Order of play is full of good matches in fact, these 1000 masters are pretty good like that as they cut out the first two rounds of slams and you get instant first-class matches from the word go.

It was a good match, with moments of brilliance and some very silly errors in between. Both players had their chances to win, Stan just a tad more solid towards the end of the match. I was surprised how well he played the 3rd set TB, very unlikely himself.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:18 pm

FedererKing wrote:Bye Murray :P

It can be. yes .

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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:33 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote: It was a good match, with moments of brilliance and some very silly errors in between. Both players had their chances to win, Stan just a tad more solid towards the end of the match. I was surprised how well he played the 3rd set TB, very unlikely himself.
I wish I could've seen it, but it was too late.
How did Paire play?
Is he back to his pre injury best?

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:38 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote: It was a good match, with moments of brilliance and some very silly errors in between. Both players had their chances to win, Stan just a tad more solid towards the end of the match. I was surprised how well he played the 3rd set TB, very unlikely himself.
I wish I could've seen it, but it was too late.
How did Paire play?
Is he back to his pre injury best?

Very well played by Paire, a lot of points won at the net and some smart S&V on important occasions. Before the start of the 3rd set TB, it was totally anyone's match.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:39 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
FedererKing wrote:Bye Murray :P

It can be. yes .
Maybe not.. Murray playing just the waiting game while Krygios is self destructing.

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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:44 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote: It was a good match, with moments of brilliance and some very silly errors in between. Both players had their chances to win, Stan just a tad more solid towards the end of the match. I was surprised how well he played the 3rd set TB, very unlikely himself.
I wish I could've seen it, but it was too late.
How did Paire play?
Is he back to his pre injury best?

Very well played by Paire, a lot of points won at the net and some smart S&V on important occasions. Before the start of the 3rd set TB, it was totally anyone's match.
It's a shame he lost then, esp in the TB after having a MP. He's had to play qualifications, so it my have caught up with him.
I saw highlights and it looked a real fun match. Nice to have two attacking players, too many baseline monotonia and percentage tennis these days.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:48 pm

Murray is already stressing out and he is 1 set up and still on serve in this one.  He is so mentally frail it's unreal.

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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:12 pm

Yes...managed to catch the last two games: that was a welcome to the land of slog, graft and grinding lesson from Murray, and Kurgy fell for it.

No first serve, too proud to bide his time, played like a vain teenager who didn't want to lose his face but kept digging himself deeper and deeper as the aggression didn't work...at least he saw where he's at.
Hope it doesn't discourage him.

Time to land and regroup.

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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:46 pm

Caught the end of the 2nd Set of Nole-Monf...what a strange TB!

Monfils is really fun to watch. He seems to be bored when playing, just like Dolgo and then goes for some ultra crazy shots of touch and flair...


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Post by ... on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:04 pm

That was a vintage Nole-Monf...tight-rope drama with Nole gritting it out in the end.
I enjoyed the 12th game of the last set, esp Nole's FH for 30:30, that's was gutsy and won him the match.

Shame Monf had such tough draw...but again, he just loves to play, counter-punch and waste energy...maybe that's the way he thinks he can beat Nole. Was close as always but their 10:0 H2H suggests he needs to change something.
Nole's draw is horrendous...

Looks like being number one makes no difference, even the umpire was biased. I think ITF is still on his back for supporting Troicki vocally. Good on him!

Much better than "being happy for Nadal to win 9 RGs"....

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Re: Masters 1000: Toronto

Post by ... on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:32 am

Who says winning is everything...



Long live Le Monfs of this world!!! Bubbly

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Re: Masters 1000: Toronto

Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:22 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Who says winning is everything?

Djokovic?

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:02 pm

Anderson beats Stan again early doors in a Masters Sad

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:48 pm

Tsonga sorts Djokovic..but Djoko has been playing more and more defensive lately. How did Federer manage to lose to him in that Wimbledon final.

Federer was underpar for sure in that final.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:09 am

Fed lost 6 MP in the 10th game of the 2nd set, one of them was sitting on his racquet. But he missed an easy volley.

Cilic playing well, especially on serve, its close.. very close.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:44 am

Fed prevails. but not without a big scare... Cilic is such a good player, he should be winning a lot more than he is.. The wimbledon match against Djokovic..

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:28 am

Tenez wrote:Tsonga sorts Djokovic..but Djoko has been playing more and more defensive lately. How did Federer manage to lose to him in that Wimbledon final.

Federer was underpar for sure in that final.

I only saw the last 3 games and Nole was terrible. His BH was very dodgy even against Monfils yesterday.

It wouldn't surprise me if he tanked it as he is keen on winning Cincy next week.
That's his only missing Masters 1000 and would make history by being the only player with all  1000s.

Happy for Tsonga, though, he needed a big win as he's been struggling for the last two years. I hope he makes it to the final.

As for Nole, I didn't think he played defensively in Wimbledon final (yet to see the 4th and 5th sets), at least for his standards.
Difficult to judge Toronto, Cincy will give a better idea. Conditions are becoming suffocating to play in.

Some players can take off two weeks and get hormone growth therapy allowance to "treat" their fictional injuries, some get tested 5 hours in the middle of a DC match.

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:09 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Fed prevails. but not without a big scare... Cilic is such a good player, he should be winning a lot more than he is.. The wimbledon match against Djokovic..

Glad he won.
How was his FH?

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:00 am

From Fed's post-match interview yesterday:

"​Q.  What's the one you're most proud of?
​ROGER FEDERER:  I don't know.  I mean, for me maybe becoming world No. 1, you know, or winning Wimbledon probably, something like that.  Just making it on the tour overall.
​It was not like a goal for me.  It was more like a dream, you know.  So, anyway, so much more than I ever thought it would be.  I always say that.  I know it's a boring answer but it really is the case.
​Just want you people to understand that, that one tournament more or less at this point doesn't change much, but it's in the emotions and in the grind or in the enjoyment or in the way that I play that I really can actually enjoy it out there.
​So for me probably becoming world No. 1 in 2004 or winning Wimbledon 2003 was one of my biggest moments."

http://www.rogerscup.com/men/interviews/2014/R._Federer_07.08.14.doc

Those who don't understand and love the play will unfortunately never get it....it's their loss, and quite a big one.

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:10 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Who says winning is everything?

Djokovic?
"Ha!" takes it on the chin NITB with a cheeky smile and downs a glass of rose glancing at that special view from  the balcony...


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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:12 pm

Allez Tsonga!!!! diva

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:35 pm

Tsonga is playing closer to the lines and his results show. His FH is much better too and his BH no such a liability as in the past.

he probably is surfing a confident wave. Woudl be good to see him achieve something finally.


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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:37 pm

Yes, great wins for him two days in a row. Should get to the final where he'll hopefully be playing Fed.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:20 pm

I hope so.

can Fred win TMS1000 nowadays? I doubt it.

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:48 pm

He should be fresh after the post-Wimbledon break.
Hopefully he won't have to spend too much time on court with Ferrer.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:43 pm

Knowing fed's luck, Tsonga will be in his quarter at US.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:22 pm

Dimi lacks finesse and precision.

He plays a clay court game on a HC.

Nice piece of choking from Kevin!

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:36 pm

I couldn't believe it..he kept painting the lines and then blew it all away on his own serve...

Dimi's game is incoherent, but he keeps scraping through. How on earth did he get called baby-Fed!!!

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Post by ... on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:48 pm

I can't believe that ball was called "in"...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:52 pm

noleisthebest wrote: Dimi's game is incoherent, but he keeps scraping through. How on earth did he get called baby-Fed!!!

I am not sure it was that bad at the beginning but for sure he learnt his mistakes from the retrievers! ..And it works as he has never been ranked that high...but I think with this game he won't get much further unless he starts to be confident and go for sharper shots.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:54 pm

He will improve... and he is doing all the time.  He's making pushes already deeper into tournaments.  More confidence, and he will be a slam champ.

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Post by ... on Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:01 am

I can't imagine Dimi going for sharper shots.

I don't know what it is, must be the strings, but because of all this spin you can barely see proper drilling shots.

Stan can really get hold of the ball, but Kevin suffocated him with percentage tennis yesterday, though I only saw two games.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:10 am

FedererKing wrote:He will improve... and he is doing all the time.  He's making pushes already deeper into tournaments.  More confidence, and he will be a slam champ.

well maybe....but the Nadal way!

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Post by ... on Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:21 am

What a surprise to see Raonic out to Lopez this morning!

That's 2 SBH left in the draw, very exciting!

Looks like Fed-Tsonga final is on the cards.

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Post by ... on Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:55 am

Blast from the 2004 past:



Would be interesting to hear from those who claim Fed was better in 2004.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:55 am

noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe that ball was called "in"...

Not seen that, but we've seen countless number of absolutely ridiculous line calls. I do think linesmen do get affected by the crowd, the noise and even their personal liking for a player.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:58 am

noleisthebest wrote:Blast from the 2004 past:



Would be interesting to hear from those who claim Fed was better in 2004.

Player's don't get better as they age past 29.  No player ever has. Has a player even won a slam at 33 in the modern era?

And actually, I'd say the Federer above has better movement, for sure. Forehand looks more deadly too.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:11 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Blast from the 2004 past:

Would be interesting to hear from those who claim Fed was better in 2004.

I think Fed was definitely better earlier in a lot of aspects. He has become better in other things, but overall he was better in 2004-07 era.

He was faster, definitely faster than he has been in recent times. He has lost lot of foot-speed, I see it especially when he is running on his FH side in defense. 
 
He was an "acer" earlier, brilliant at serve almost at par with the Tall-giant serving machines. He has lost lots of pace on serve, especially down-the-T. This is the big one for me. But I also believe that with so many years on circuit he just has become more "readable" about his serving direction. Players of 5-6+ years younger than him definitely read his serve direction better than those his age or older. Happens to everyone given how much study the whole team of coaches/staff etc is doing on the top players.

He has lots power on BH wing. Rarely you'll see a sucecssful BHDTL shot now. But he was so able to change the direction of the ball. Slow courts now? True but even on clay he was so much better on the BH.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:17 pm

Exactly.  I agree with the serve being far more inconsistent now too.  Today, you just wait for it to disappear for an entire game.  A few years ago, Djokovic would have been toast at Wimbledon, but this year, Federer's serve just disappeared completely and for no reason.  That's why he lost.  Age ruins consistency.  People are seeing Federer play one shot of old and then making the mistake that this is what he did in his prime.  He didn't.  He was hitting winners left right and centre.

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Re: Masters 1000: Toronto

Post by truffin1 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:42 pm

Serve up the T certainly lost lots of MPH and accuracy post 2008... 

this scheduling Fed was saddled with in order to fill the stands for the night match is killing his chances. Thank goodness the draw opened up for him.  He was visibly fatigued last night, now if he wins tonight, has to turn around in around 13 hours and play a much younger player on nearly a full day rest... really unfair the way this td laid things out.

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