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Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

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Post by Tenez on Sat May 31, 2014 10:18 pm

Here is the draw today. Remember to place your joker on one match (the one you feel confident of the outcome or the one that might bring you more points).
If too complicated to calculate, for those adding the numbers just ignore.

Ernests Gulbis  (LAT) [33]
vs.
Roger Federer  (SUI) [19]


 
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga  (FRA) [33]
vs.
Novak Djokovic  (SRB) [22]


Garbine Muguruza  (ESP) [33]
vs.
Pauline Parmentier  (FRA) [33]

 
Tomas Berdych  (CZE) [29]
vs.
John Isner  (USA) [33]


Ajla Tomljanovic  (CRO) [33]
vs.
Carla Suarez Navarro  (ESP) [14]


Milos Raonic  (CAN) [8]
vs.
Marcel Granollers  (ESP) [33]


Samantha Stosur  (AUS) [33]
vs.
Maria Sharapova  (RUS) [21]

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sat May 31, 2014 10:20 pm

Roger Federer (SUI) [4]

Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2]


Pauline Parmentier (FRA)


Tomas Berdych (CZE) [6]

Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP) [14]


Milos Raonic (CAN) [8] JOKER


Maria Sharapova (RUS) [7]

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Post by ... on Sat May 31, 2014 10:22 pm

Federer, Djokovic, Muguruza (Joker), Berdych, Navarro, Raonic, Sharapova

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by ... on Sat May 31, 2014 10:24 pm

Do I add up points as usual and just double them on the Joker-ed match, or is there anything else, for eg, in your case, if Raonic wins you get 16 instead of 8 points and the rest is all as before.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sat May 31, 2014 10:31 pm

You'd double the points meant to get. This is to push for risky (more rewarding) projections.

Not sure I understand the alternative.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by gallery play on Sat May 31, 2014 10:53 pm

Gulbis. Joker. (stupid new rules.. i'm probably blowing my high ranking now.. Winking )
Djoko
Mugu
Berdych
Navarro
Raonic
Sharapova

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sat May 31, 2014 11:01 pm

gallery play wrote:Gulbis. Joker. (stupid new rules.. i'm probably blowing my high ranking now.. Winking )
Djoko
Mugu
Berdych
Navarro
Raonic
Sharapova
You big spender!

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:01 am

My prediction for next Sunday:
Djoker - Joker.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:35 am

Have no idea about ladies' matches, but here we go:

Federer
Djokovic - JOKER
Muguruza
Berdych
Suarez Navarro
Granollers
Sharapova

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:37 am

Points have been normalized now for ever match carrying 33 points in potential.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:40 am

I think some  of you might want to rethink and place your Joker bets now that some points have been normalized.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:31 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Points have been normalized now for ever match carrying 33 points in potential.
Thanks ROTLA. Clearer now.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Autumnleaf on Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:08 am

Oh, so we have got women's matches now.  Big Grin  That's going to be difficult, didn't follow them very much.

For the men:

I go with all the seeds, think Gulbis-Federer is the most likely one for an upset, but can't find it in me to vote for Gulbis, much as I like him (not quite enough).

1. Federer
2. Djokovic
3. Berdych (joker)
4. Raonic


For the women:

1. Sharapova
2. Muguruza
3. Tomljanovic

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:09 am

A question for rotla: why have all other seeds been given point increase and Raonic is still the same with "only" 8?

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:15 am

Autumnleaf wrote:Oh, so we have got women's matches now.  Big Grin  That's going to be difficult, didn't follow them very much.
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Neither did I...and nor will do! Au Bonheur la chance! Winking

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:17 am

noleisthebest wrote:A question for rotla: why have all other seeds been given point increase and Raonic is still the same with "only" 8?
Because he is the only one playing an unseeded opponent.

Point increase works like this:

The points of the lower seed in increased to maximum 33. If his/her actual seed was let's say 20 then 13 more points are added to make his/her value 33. Then 13 more points are added to the other higher seeded player. The difference in their points remain same.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:21 am

My quick picks.. Matches are just starting now.

1. Roger Federer  (SUI) [19]
2. Novak Djokovic  (SRB) [22]
3. Pauline Parmentier  (FRA) [33]
4. John Isner  (USA) [33] 
5. Carla Suarez Navarro  (ESP) [14]
6. Marcel Granollers  (ESP) [33]  JOKER
7. Samantha Stosur  (AUS) [33]

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

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raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:A question for rotla: why have all other seeds been given point increase and Raonic is still the same with "only" 8?
Because he is the only one playing an unseeded opponent.

Point increase works like this:

The points of the lower seed in increased to maximum 33. If his/her actual seed was let's say 20 then 13 more points are added to make his/her value 33. Then 13 more points are added to the other higher seeded player. The difference in their points remain same.

Thanks, I still don't quite get it, but doesn't matter, so long as the points are there with the picks before making them.
Just thought that at this stage it's a bit unbalanced to have Raonic get just 8 points and Fed 19...
I suppose Nadal's half is going to be a no-brainer then...

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:48 am

Isner 0-2 sets and a break down. Berdych is playing excellent. Fed could have a very tough opponent in QF.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:02 pm

Coming to this RG, Berdych's form looked poor, so I was thinking it would be quite easy for Fed, with Berdych quite possibly not even getting to play him, but Berdych has been cruising - easily demolishing everyone in his path.

In fact, the same is true for Gulbis.

So, all of a sudden Fed now has to potentially face back-to-back in-form Gulbis and Berd. Fed's draw does not look so easy anymore.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:19 pm

summerblues wrote:Coming to this RG, Berdych's form looked poor, so I was thinking it would be quite easy for Fed, with Berdych quite possibly not even getting to play him, but Berdych has been cruising - easily demolishing everyone in his path.

In fact, the same is true for Gulbis.

So, all of a sudden Fed now has to potentially face back-to-back in-form Gulbis and Berd.  Fed's draw does not look so easy anymore.

Did it look easy at the start of the tournament? It looked okay to me but not easy..Last year it was the easiest one, almost a given ticket to the finals, but lost in QF.

All his opponents have all started to pick up some very decent form. He needs to play better than he has been till now.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:23 pm

Initially I thought Fed's draw looked pretty good, yes. I was kind of thinking that both Gulbis (general inconsistency) and Berdych (poor form) were likely to lose before reaching the Federer match.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:31 pm

I have to say that - even though I need Andy to advance to prevent Rafa's semi from being a walkover - on the poit-by-point basis I am finding myself rooting for Kohli.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Watching Andy's match but I see that Gulbis has in the meantime broken Fed.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:57 pm

It looks like Fed has broken back.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:08 pm

...and Andy does it. It was not pretty by any means - he did not look convincing today either - but he is through where we need him.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:20 pm

Fed must have been taking overhead lessons from Djokovic.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:24 pm

First set to Fed, but he needs to improve on what I am seeing now if he wants to go deep in the tournament.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:26 pm

Just saw the scores... Angry

Disappointing loss from Gasquet, but I suppose his back was not recovered properly, at least he made a few rounds.
Kholi....what a shame, such a fine player, Murray gets away with it again. He is second in line behind Nadal in the luck department, for sure...
At least Fed squeezed past Gulbis in the TB.....

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:34 pm

Gulbis breaks but Fed then breaks straight back - just like in the first set.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:45 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Isner 0-2 sets and a break down. Berdych is playing excellent. Fed could have a very tough opponent in QF.

I think Berdych is meant to look good by Isner being really tired from his  set match v Simon. I'd like to see him play v a better player.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:50 pm

summerblues wrote:First set to Fed, but he needs to improve on what I am seeing now if he wants to go deep in the tournament.

He looks so lethargic....more of a 42 yo than 32!

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:52 pm

Yes, lethargic is a good word for that.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:52 pm

I've just seen this last game and Federer playing very smart..conserving energy, Gulbis is obliging gladly by pulling the trigger too early.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:56 pm

Was it Federer that just yelled out after breaking Gulbis?
I feel sorry for Earnie...he's got the crowd against him as well Federer working them into a frenzy.
I reckon Parisians love him more than the Swiss.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:01 pm

I really like Earnie...he plays fearlessly and full-on. You cannot compromise and water courage down. It's a ride Bubbly

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:03 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Murray gets away with it again. He is second in line behind Nadal in the luck department, for sure...
Why?  Because he won a tight 5-setter?  I think it is you having selective memory - the pieces of luck that go your way you tend to take for granted and forget quickly, but you dwell on those that go against you.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:06 pm

That was a worrying sitter FH miss for 15:40 from Fed Sad

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:09 pm

noleisthebest wrote:That was a worrying sitter FH miss for 15:40 from Fed Sad
Indeed.  He went from serving for the set at 5:3 (and I think he may have even been 40-15 in that game) to almost being a break down.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:09 pm

Oh EEEEAR-NEEEEE !!! Laugh

I absolutely loved that racquet smash, squash and crunch!!!!!  diva

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:13 pm

Another TB!!!!!  Yikes

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:14 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Murray gets away with it again. He is second in line behind Nadal in the luck department, for sure...
Why?  Because he won a tight 5-setter?  I think it is you having selective memory - the pieces of luck that go your way you tend to take for granted and forget quickly, but you dwell on those that go against you.

No, because I believe he would've lost the match if it was not suspended last night. Same as Nole against Nadal in RG 2012.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:17 pm

What a crazy pick-up volley from Fed that was...you can't teach it, great feel for the ball on the BH, that's one thing he's got over all other SBH-ers, esp Stan.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:21 pm

One set apiece feels about fair given how they have been playing, but after being 5:3 up in the second, it is a shame for Fed to be in this position.

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:22 pm

I haven't seem the first set TB, but from this 2nd set one, is it just me, or is Fed starting to play them too safely?

He's got to change the tactics and turn the aggression on, he doesn't want this match to drag out to five sets, esp as Gulbis will be on high riding the momentum now.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:26 pm

noleisthebest wrote:No, because I believe he would've lost the match if it was not suspended last night. Same as Nole against Nadal in RG 2012.
Well, that is what I mean.  For example, quite possibly Djokovic only won his AO13 match against Stan because of a bad line call.  Yet you happily pocket that victory and do not keep coming back whining about how unfair it all was.  At least in this case the luck was fair and square - what can you do when players cannot finish the match before it gets too dark?

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Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:36 pm

I don't remember any line-calls, I suppose there is Hawk-Eye to sort it out these days...they are part of every match.
But if you play the best of 5 over two days, even though the play can continue but you don't want it to continue because you are losing...
than that's a different matter.
Or you refuse your opponent's valid request to have the court watered down after 6:6 in the 5th set...that's what you call TOUGH LUCK.

Obviously I won't mention touching the net, losing your first coach and other things...as that falls into a different category of "luck".
Same one Kholi had last night.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:37 pm

I shouldn't normally as Fed fan but I must say I did felt good for Gulbis winning the 2nd set TB. He totally deserved that set. 

Its hard not to like some gutsy tennis especially against a maddening crowd.

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Re: Roland Garros 2014: MOTD Day 8 Sun 31/05/2014

Post by ... on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:38 pm

Earnie really taking it to Fed.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:41 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I don't remember any line-calls
Exactly.

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