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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:16 pm

I hope not.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:24 pm

Good start.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 3:25 pm

I am surprised how Djoko can hot those winners at ease v Nadal cause they don't look very fast winners. More like placement....and usually Nadal is good at retrieving those shots....there he looks almost wrong footed by a not very pacy shot.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:26 pm

Excellent start from Nole. No wind, just light breeze.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:28 pm

Nadal hides no intentions sbout how he plans to play this match. Uber slog from the first point on his serve. He is "fit" alright...

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:33 pm

Nole looks nervous.

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:34 pm

Tenez wrote:I am surprised how Djoko can hot those winners at ease v Nadal cause they don't look very fast winners.
Indeed, he can make it looks so easy.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 3:37 pm

summerblues wrote:Nole looks nervous.
Not nervous to me....unsure about his wrist/shots!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:37 pm

He isn't nervous, just feeling annoyed with himself after that first silly point he threw away.
That has just cost him the entire game. I think he is fine.

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:42 pm

I still say it is nervous - that last overhead volley was indicative of it again.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:46 pm

Well, he's got himself in the right bit of mess 00:40.
Maybe he is not fine, after all.


Just the way he looked at his box...we'll see...def not the ideal start Sad

The wind picking up, as well.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 3:50 pm

That's more like it! diva

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:51 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Maybe he is not fine, after all.
Maybe the wrist is not fine, who knows.  But to me it looks more like a plain case of nerves - bad shot selection etc.  On the points that he plays his usual game, he seems to be hitting the ball just fine, finding openings and hitting easy winners.

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 3:53 pm

summerblues wrote:I still say it is nervous - that last overhead volley was indicative of it again.
But he looks so calm...resigned that his shots are not what they coudl be but still calm enough aand not panicking despite being 2 breaks down....well one now. If anything he is showing he does not fear Nadal at all. Just concentrating on his game.

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 3:57 pm

Tenez wrote:If anything he is showing he does not fear Nadal at all.
I am not saying he fears Nadal; maybe he is just over-eager, but he was not playing to his usual tested and true patterns on many of the points he lost - it was like he could not decide when to pull the trigger and ended up spraying it with little purpose.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:00 pm

What a shame this game.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:02 pm

Nole is really sparing his wrist.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:02 pm

Let's break now, Nole.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:03 pm

yes, wasted a great chance to get back into this set...will have to do it again but with more pressure this time.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:06 pm

I loved that dropshot lob combination!!!! Magic

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:09 pm

quite short rallies actually....that helps Nadal.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:09 pm

What a weird set of tennis...

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:09 pm

That was pretty good from Rafa at 15-15.

Unfortunately, we were right in guessing that this match would be more difficult for Nole than Miami.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:10 pm

Cowan agrees that Djoko played very poorly in that first set....and despite that it was pretty close.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:11 pm

I just hope Nole can be 100% for RG.

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:11 pm

summerblues wrote:That was pretty good from Rafa at 15-15.

Unfortunately, we were right in guessing that this match would be more difficult for Nole than Miami.

Yes but I am not impressed by Nadal either.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:14 pm

I turned the commentating off long ago...Robbie in full sales Nadal worship mode...Lester verbally nodding...

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:14 pm

Did you see this FH winner from Djoko at 15/0 first game second set? There was nothing it!. That's the kind of FH Nadal hits winners from when not playing Djoko.

The difference is that Nadal is lost on the court when facing Djoko he is almost wrong footed everysingle time.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:17 pm

That's because Nadsl fears Nole's BH greatly...and rightly do!

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:18 pm

That is more like it.

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:19 pm

:cool:

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:22 pm

Oh yes!

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:22 pm

Nadal is completely lost....wrong footed every single time cause Nadal gets to those balls against everybody less.

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:24 pm

I used to like Tomba la Bomba.....but my italian friend who worked at Eurosport and interviewed him said his ego was bigger than Mont Blanc to the point of being ridiculous!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:25 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal is completely lost....wrong footed every single time cause Nadal gets to those balls against everybody less.
I'm not complaining Big Grin

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Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:27 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal is completely lost....wrong footed every single time cause Nadal gets to those balls against everybody less.
Don't cheer too soon, T. Rafa only has to worry about who's the fittest at the end of the final set. His life is simple.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Tenez wrote:I used to like Tomba la Bomba.....but my italian friend who worked at Eurosport and interviewed him said his ego was bigger than Mont Blanc to the point of being ridiculous!

Me too! He was so good! I just wondered if that was him and then his name appeared on the screen!
I used to watch him every weekend on TV....

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:32 pm

Tenez wrote:I used to like Tomba la Bomba.....but my italian friend who worked at Eurosport and interviewed him said his ego was bigger than Mont Blanc to the point of being ridiculous!

I don't have problem with people's egos..esp in top sport...they have all got it some sre just better at bring "humble"...

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Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:35 pm

lost concentration...at a vital moment.....it coudl have been 5/0 but it is 3/2! There Djoko was nervous...playing too hesitant!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun May 18, 2014 4:35 pm

What is that stupid woman doing bringing 1 year olds to a tennis
match... Grr

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Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:35 pm

RG is going to be so disappointing.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:35 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:I used to like Tomba la Bomba.....but my italian friend who worked at Eurosport and interviewed him said his ego was bigger than Mont Blanc to the point of being ridiculous!

I don't have problem with people's egos..esp in top sport...they have all got it some sre just better at bring "humble"...
I do when they don't realise how ridiculous they can be and have no sense of humour.

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Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Tenez wrote:lost concentration...at a vital moment.....it coudl have been 5/0 but it is 3/2! There Djoko was nervous...playing too hesitant!
With Nadal's current level of fitness it's about impossible to maintain a momemtum against him for long on clay

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Going back to my nerves theory.  My guess is that RG is on Nole's mind already - he is playing far better when he is down.

From what I am seeing I also think this match today matters for Nole more than for Rafa.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:43 pm

The commentators on Sky are quite good cause they say exactly what I say! Winking

Nadal has no clue where th eball is going whereas he reads the pattern of the other players much better.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:44 pm

summerblues wrote:Going back to my nerves theory.  My guess is that RG is on Nole's mind already - he is playing far better when he is down.

From what I am seeing I also think this match today matters for Nole more than for Rafa.
Really? that's not how i see it. Nadal wants this more i reckon.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:44 pm

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Tenez wrote:lost concentration...at a vital moment.....it coudl have been 5/0 but it is 3/2! There Djoko was nervous...playing too hesitant!
With Nadal's current level of fitness it's about impossible to maintain a momemtum against him for long on clay

What do you think? Who is going to win today?

I'll pick Djoko now.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by Tenez on Sun May 18, 2014 4:45 pm

Nadal is so clueless (on that drop shot), it's so funny!

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Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:45 pm

Tenez wrote:The commentators on Sky are quite good cause they say exactly what I say! Winking

Nadal has no clue where th eball is going whereas he reads the pattern of the other players much better.
But still he's in time most of the time, this is why he puts so much pressure on the attacker

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: Rome

Post by gallery play on Sun May 18, 2014 4:48 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:lost concentration...at a vital moment.....it coudl have been 5/0 but it is 3/2! There Djoko was nervous...playing too hesitant!
With Nadal's current level of fitness it's about impossible to maintain a momemtum against him for long on clay

What do you think?  Who is going to win today?

I'll pick Djoko now.
 Tough one, but i think Nadal Cry  He's fitter

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