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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:37 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal was playing his best v Istomin and a couple others....at least as good as last year.
I did not see all that much of him but from the bits I saw would not say so.  I saw maybe the first three or four games against Istomin - the match where everyone was saying how great Rafa looked - and he did not look spectacular to me.  He looked very good - but not beyond his typical standard.  When he plays well, he defends well and makes it difficult for players to rally with him - and he was doing all that.

But last year - and only last year - I saw him succeed playing aggressively, which gave him another dimension.  There was no sign of that against Istomin, it was all very much standard Nadal.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:37 pm

Great hold from Nole, loved the angry spirit after the time violation warning!

MAJSTOREEEE!!!!!!!!! diva diva  diva

btw, why were those Fed-mask wearing  fans clapping Nole's UE Grr

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:38 pm

One can tell it is very embarassing for Nadal...he is relieved and happy when he pulls a winner. His ego is bruised and is looking at anything to cheer him up.

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Post by Daniel on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:39 pm

One dimensional Nadal has no ideas.  One plan. Getting schooled.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:41 pm

summerblues wrote:But last year - and only last year - I saw him succeed playing aggressively, which gave him another dimension.  There was no sign of that against Istomin, it was all very much standard Nadal.
To me only because Djoko was not able to play his game Rafa gained in confidence....woudl be the same here if Djoko was playing like last year.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:43 pm

This is starting to feel like their 2011 encounters. smiley Not a moment too soon, with clay court season coming up.  Nole, please keep it up.

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Post by Daniel on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:46 pm

Double fault... HE IS INJURED!  Yikes 

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Post by Daniel on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:51 pm

You can always tell when Nadal is getting desperate because he fist pumps simply holding serve haha

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:54 pm

That was one gorgeous BH slice approach from Nole Magic

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:55 pm

The huge difference between this and last year is Djoko's BH. As simple as that.....and this is what makes Nadal nervous and defensive.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:55 pm

Off to refill my rose...it's only a small glass Run

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Post by Daniel on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:55 pm

Nole has variety.  I mean what exactly is Nadal doing?  He is just sitting 10 miles behind the baseline hoping for a mistake like he always does.  He hasn't got ANY plan.

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:00 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal's lack of real talent is hilighted here. He plays further back so has more time to see and hits a slower ball, uses bigger margins than Nole, yet makes more UEs.

JS what is Nadal's talent? I want a clear explanation.
He's playing horrifically at the moment, he's past it unfortunately. 
It's like watching Tiger Woods hit a rubbish put now and saying 'where's the talent?'

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:00 pm

Can Nole cross the finish line?  He has struggled in that department lately.  So far today he has been looking much like the Nole of 2011, so let's hope he will wrap it up with confidence.

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:01 pm

FedererKing wrote:Double fault... HE IS INJURED!  Yikes 
Who ?

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:01 pm

FedererKing wrote:Nole has variety.  I mean what exactly is Nadal doing?  He is just sitting 10 miles behind the baseline hoping for a mistake like he always does.  He hasn't got ANY plan.
Correct though his plan was hoping Djoko woudl tire and start to miss. Pulling those winner after 20 shot rallies are tough.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:01 pm

Julia Santamaria wrote:He's playing horrifically at the moment, he's past it unfortunately.
I actually think Rafa is playing pretty decent today.  Anyone bar Nole and they are done.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:02 pm

BTW JS, where are those great BH DTL from Nadal?

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:03 pm

Tenez wrote:BTW JS, where are those great BH DTL from Nadal?
Gone, as with the rest of his game, he's past it.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:04 pm

I nearly broke my toot on an olive!!!! They were supposed to be pitted, wait a minute, they are Spanish Yikes

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:06 pm

What a cool way to finish the match - outNadulling Nadal smiley

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:07 pm

Nadal, like Tiger Woods, is past his best and it is time for hit retire.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm

Good last point.

So Nadal plays better than 2011...but Djoko beats him even more convincingly than then which means Djoko plays considerably better than 2011....yet Djoko has more trouble beating Federer than Nadal....interesting all this triangular relation.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:11 pm

Tenez wrote:So Nadal plays better than 2011.
I really do not think he does.  This is pretty much standard issue Nadal.  But Nole, playing like this, will more often than not defeat him.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 pm

Djoko did what Davydenko used to do versus Nadal....though I much preferred Davy's style....good performance from Djoko nonetheless....the difference between him now and all that last 12 months is that he has no let down.

Federer and Djoko are the only 2 players winning the IW Miami double twice.....Federer did it 2 years in a row if I remember.

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 pm

Tenez wrote:Good last point.

So Nadal plays better than 2011...but Djoko beats him even more convincingly than then which means Djoko plays considerably better than 2011....yet Djoko has more trouble beating Federer than Nadal....interesting all this triangular relation.
Bizarre post.

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Post by Daniel on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 pm

Let's face it, if Nadal was a right handed player, he'd have been mauled by Fed.

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 pm

No doubt the Trojan warriors, fire extinguisher in hand, will get very vocal now.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:13 pm

Djoko did what Davydenko used to do versus Nadal....though I much preferred Davy's style....good performance from Djoko nonetheless....the difference between him now and all that last 12 months is that he has no let down.

Federer and Djoko are the only 2 players winning the IW Miami double twice.....Federer did it 2 years in a row if I remember.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:13 pm

What a way to enf the matchand win the title! Applause
Titanium at its shiniest best!
Off for another refill Run

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:13 pm

FedererKing wrote:Let's face it, if Nadal was a right handed player, he'd have been mauled by Fed.
Nadal's record against lefties as a percentage is better than Federer's against right handed players.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:15 pm

Tenez wrote:Djoko did what Davydenko used to do versus Nadal....though I much preferred Davy's style....good performance from Djoko nonetheless....the difference between him now and all that last 12 months is that he has no let down.

Federer and Djoko are the only 2 players winning the IW Miami double twice.....Federer did it 2 years in a row if I remember.

Oh shut up with Davydenko and take your hat to Nole just for once!!!
If for nothing else than for Nole's superior haircut Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:20 pm

Whooooo-hooooooo!!!!!!!


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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:20 pm

What a difference fresh Nole made....he should have a sf w/o every time Big Grin

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:24 pm

noleisthebest wrote:What a difference fresh Nole made....he should have a sf w/o every time Big Grin
At RG too?

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:27 pm

When Nole plays like this, not only does he beat Rafa more often than not, but he makes it look oh so easy.  Yet, even if he slips just a bit, he loses more than he wins.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:28 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:What a difference fresh Nole made....he should have a sf w/o every time Big Grin
At RG too?
I'm no Socal SB!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:29 pm

FedererKing wrote:Double fault... HE IS INJURED!  Yikes 

We'll have to decide on that ONLY of the serve was around 95 mph Winking

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Post by summerblues on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:30 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I'm no Socal SB!
Hehe.  I like Socal but that Fognini thing of his was way over the top.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:32 pm

I know this will look really silly to me tomorrow, but I don't care...

I'M HA-PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:32 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I'm no Socal SB!
Hehe.  I like Socal but that Fognini thing of his was way over the top.

Fognini rules!

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:33 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I'm no Socal SB!
Hehe.  I like Socal but that Fognini thing of his was way over the top.
socal was, as usual, correct though.
If not a combination of Fognini quitting and stunning from Fed, Nadal would not have won RG 2011.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:33 pm

Well I expected a bit of drama.....and this final was a bit of a damp squib! Djoko was quite clinical and Nadal simply had no answer...no more than indoor WTF or Shanghai. Djoko had no let down and this is what happens when the opponent doesn't tire or lose concentration.

Could Nadal win no slam this year? I woudl not mind if it was to hear again those saying he is declining cause he does not win...Players lose cause others are getting better. It;s as simple as that. WHen Djoko loses it;s not because he woudl have declined....it's because the youngsters will push him out. This is way too competitive a sport to have a chance to "decline".

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:34 pm

What a demolition!!!!

And I didn't hide behind the sofa for one second Big Grin

YEEEEEEEEAH Bubbly

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:36 pm

I don't even know why I am so happy, but I sure needed it Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:36 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I'm no Socal SB!
Hehe.  I like Socal but that Fognini thing of his was way over the top.
He felt something that could have had some truth but completely blew it out of proportion. I think he realised that but coudl not retract without losing face so he kept digging his hole. But I like him too. Does he still post on v2?

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Post by BEL19VE on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:37 pm

Tenez wrote:This is way too competitive a sport to have a chance to "decline".
What?
This comment is so nonsensical it's beyond belief.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:What a demolition!!!!

And I didn't hide behind the sofa for one second Big Grin

YEEEEEEEEAH Bubbly
No we could see you swim in that small glass of rose.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I don't even know why I am so happy, but I sure needed it Big Grin

And I sure need a bit of smiley variation here..,I hate to repeat myself Winking

ROTLA, can you do something about it please?

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:38 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:What a demolition!!!!

And I didn't hide behind the sofa for one second Big Grin

YEEEEEEEEAH Bubbly
No we could see you swim in that small  glass of rose.

Oh, you party pooper, you!!!  handbag

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