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Post by ... on Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:43 pm

Nadal pulls out of Basel, anyone surprised?  Whistle 
"Hi all, sorry to announce that I won't travel to Basel in Switzerland but after very exhausting weeks I have to regroup my fitness and my body. I will do my best to come back to the Swiss Indoors next year."
http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/248901.html
That gives Nole a  realistic chance of recapturing number one in Paris.
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More on both tournaments later chef
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ATP 500 BASEL, indoor hard
Roger Federer, who once served as a ball boy at the Swiss Indoors Basel, fittingly became the first player to win five titles at his hometown tournament in 2011. Switzerland’s leading sport event boasts an impressive list of former champions, including tennis Hall of Famers Bjorn Borg, Ivan Lendl, John McEnroe, Boris Becker, Stefan Edberg and Pete Sampras.

Players:
Federer, Del Potro, Berdych, Gasquet, Wawrinka, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Baghdatis, Dolgopolov Llorda, Mannarino, Pospisil, Haase, Stepanek
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/328/mds.pdf
Order of Play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/328/op.pdf

ATP 500 VALENCIA, indoor hard
The Valencia tournament was reborn in 2009, transitioning from a spring clay court event to an indoor hard court ATP World Tour 500 tournament held in the second-to-last week of the regular season. With its new calendar position, the Valencia Open serves as a prime battleground for the men’s best tennis players as they attempt to qualify for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals.

Players:
Paire, Gulbis, Ferrer, Haas, Simon, Kohlschreiber, Fognini, Janowicz, Isner, Almagro, Robredo, Benneteau, Monfils, Verdasco, Chardy, Tomic, Youzhny
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/573/mds.pdf
Order of Play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/573/op.pdf



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60gF0DtkETo


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Post by DECIMA on Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:01 pm

Good he withdrew from Basel in some ways, he was playing too many tournaments in a row.

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Post by ... on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:34 pm

A quality qualifying match in Basel tomorrow:
Berankis-HP Mathieu

Great 1st round matches:

Federer-Mannarino
Llodra-Gasquet
Monfils-Ferrer
Kohlschreiber-Haas



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Post by DECIMA on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:36 pm

Berdych-Federer hopefully will materialise in the semi.
That would be a fun match, Berdych knows how to wind up home crowds.

Edit: I thought it may be a final, hence NITB's comment below


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Post by ... on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:38 pm

No, because they are in the same half of the draw, it will have to be Federer-Del Potro.

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Post by DECIMA on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:39 pm

noleisthebest wrote:No, because they are in the same half of the draw, it will have to be Federer-Del Potro.
Cheers, I just checked that.
A pity, but oh well a semi will do.

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Post by ... on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:44 pm

Is that because you think Berd is going to beat Fed?

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Post by DECIMA on Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:45 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Is that because you think Berd is going to beat Fed?
Well Berdych is my second favourite player so technically I should be supporting him; but in reality a close match where the Swiss crowd go crazy and Berdych riles them up will do smiley
I think Federer would love that too

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Post by ... on Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:55 pm

Fed admits playing through pain and injuries this year was a mistake:

"With hindsight, I shouldn't have done. They were errors."

...and for the umpteenth time, dispels any retirement talk:

"As long as my body and mind is ready to go to travel, and I'm happy to be doing what I'm doing, I'm successful. I'll be playing for some time and that hasn't changed due to a tough six months right now.
I definitely think it's an advantage playing at home. I'm here to try and play well and qualify for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals, but the focus is totally on this tournament. I'll take it step-by-step this week in Basel and in Paris. Mentally, I'm starting to focus on the first match and I hope it's going to go well for me.
Playing at the Rio Olympics is something I'd like to achieve. That doesn't mean I'm going to end my career there, or earlier or later. It's just an idea
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Post by ... on Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:32 pm

I have just realised, Basel actually starts in earnest today, with

Fed playing Mannarino at 17.30. Somersault 
followed by
Dolgopolov vs De Schepper

Yesterday in qualies, HPM beat Berankis (in 3 with a customary TB in the middle which, this time, Berankis managed to win), Becker beat Strakhovsky and kamke thrashed Sock.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:10 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Fed admits playing through pain and injuries this year was a mistake:

"With hindsight, I shouldn't have done. They were errors."

...and for the umpteenth time, dispels any retirement talk:

"As long as my body and mind is ready to go to travel, and I'm happy to be doing what I'm doing, I'm successful. I'll be playing for some time and that hasn't changed due to a tough six months right now.
I definitely think it's an advantage playing at home. I'm here to try and play well and qualify for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals, but the focus is totally on this tournament. I'll take it step-by-step this week in Basel and in Paris. Mentally, I'm starting to focus on the first match and I hope it's going to go well for me.
Playing at the Rio Olympics is something I'd like to achieve. That doesn't mean I'm going to end my career there, or earlier or later. It's just an idea
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 Isn't this stubborn from Fed nitb? Playing through injury and worsening both his injury and confidence in the upcoming matches? That's why I say, he is also stubborn in a lot of rallys where just refuses to backdown in a point no matter what.. and this at many times have costed him the match.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:18 pm

I just hope Fed wins Basel and has to go though potentially all the players his draw can give him; Should be a good confidence booster for Paris, London

 Else this year he might just get 1 ATP250 title this year Sad .

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Post by ... on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:19 pm

I wouldn't call it stubborn at all, rotla.

Back injury is different from most because it comes and goes or gets worse during the day.
On the other hand, if you've got inflamed tendons and ligaments you just have to rest them, or if they are not too bad, you can play through pain and just delay healing.

Sports injuries are rarely debilitating, unless you break or snap something, you can always play, in fact, there is even a certain pleasure in it as the muscles warm up and the pain subsides, you think you've got away with it until the body cools down.

Had Fed won those matches, he would have had no regrets.
But because he lost them and all the media questioning and palaver that followed, it caused him more grief than its worth.
If he was a nobody in a local tennis club, he would not be having any regrets playing injured and losing.

When you've got the fire for the game roaring inside you, only being carried away on stretchers can stop you, or in Nadal's case...fear of losing.

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Post by ... on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:29 pm

And we can, just as Fed, only be clever and comment with hindsight.

Having lost early in Wimbledon and looking for ways to get some more matches under his belt and try out the new racquet, playing in Gstaad probably did not look such a bad idea at the time.
I remember he said he was literally thinking of pulling out until the very last minute before the match, but chose not to.
That gives you an idea that he thought he could play even through a probably acute backache flare-up which at the time was almost certainly numbed with painkillers.
And he probably chose to do it because he got away with it in the past.
This time, he had that booming serving Brands on the other side and things just did not work out.
Not a big deal for anyone else, but when you are Roger Federer, the world breaths with him  and watches his every move, and because of impatience, often blows  things out of proportion.

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Post by ... on Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:59 pm

Tomic successfully continues his beaten-in-the-first-round streak.
After three Frenchmen in a row: Chardy, Benneteau & Gasqauet, Jack Sock last week, it's Dr Misha that does the job this week (Tomic won the first set and retired being 1:4 behind in the 3rd).
What a guy....

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:32 pm

Wawrinka Sad . When will he learn to be consistent.

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Post by luvsports! on Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:38 pm

Only most parts of this year 2bh.

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:50 pm

ALLLEEEZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!! GET IN THERE COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4-1 DOUBLE BREAK. TOUGH IT OUT YA BEAUTY!

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:02 pm

GSM! GET IN!!!!
Feds a step closer to the 02!

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Post by Tenez on Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:02 pm

Lots of slice from Fed's BH. A sign of lack of confidence for sure here. Maybe rotla convinced me. Winking

Not convinced by what I saw but not terrible either. Only saw the last set.


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Post by Tenez on Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:03 pm

luvsports! wrote:GSM! GET IN!!!!
Feds a step closer to the 02!
He wpoudl be pretty unlikely not to qualify. He would need Tsonga, Stan and Gasquet to do better than him in Paris...not unthinkable but odds are against it.

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Post by laverfan on Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:17 am

Tenez wrote:Lots of slice from Fed's BH. A sign of lack of confidence for sure here. Maybe rotla convinced me. Winking

Not convinced by what I saw but not terrible either. Only saw the last set.

For You, T - http://imgur.com/3NSgsIh

Istomin blew his chances in the second game of third set (BPs 0/4). Federer showed atrocious play (missed OH smash). Lots of errors. The second set was better from Federer (Istomin was 0/0 in BPs in second set).

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Post by Tenez on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:30 am

Thanks LF. That's a lot of RPM for a BH slice. I also noticed Fed's wrist band...does he usually wear one? I usually play lots of BH slice when my elbow hurts or lack of confidence.

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Post by laverfan on Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:43 pm

Tenez wrote:Thanks LF. That's a lot of RPM for a BH slice.
Yes, it is.

Tenez wrote:I also noticed Fed's wrist band...does he usually wear one? I usually play lots of BH slice when my elbow hurts or lack of confidence.
He throws one into the crowd every time he wins a match. Winking. The slice and the return are the most visibly different shots that that show his confidence or lack thereof.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:27 pm

yep...He could play baby fed on Friday....shoudl be interesting.

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Post by ... on Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:42 pm

I thought Fed looked fine, all things considered.
A few more matches under his belt, a bit more fine-tuning and he should be on his way.
Pospisil having another good run, beat Karlovic in two easy sets.
I hope Dolgo beats Dimitrov.

I don't know who gets on my nerves more: him (being overhyped) or his girlfriend, what a pair!

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Post by ... on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:39 pm

When Dolgo is in the mood, he is a delight to watch.
It is so good to have him on the tour, unbelievable player!

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:15 pm

Baby Fed vs Fed.
Come on Fed!

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Post by ... on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:29 pm

Just had a quick look of Almagro-Przysezny mainly to check out the new Pole, and what a nice surprise!
Lovely flat ball-striking, smooth serve, SBH....there is hope!

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Post by summerblues on Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:27 am

noleisthebest wrote:I hope Dolgo beats Dimitrov.

I don't know who gets on my nerves more: him (being overhyped) or his girlfriend, what a pair!
I find Dolgo the more overhyped of the two - all style no substance.  Dimi I think genuinely has future.

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Post by summerblues on Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:34 am

Tenez wrote:Thanks LF. That's a lot of RPM for a BH slice.
I actually read that Fed's BH slice is the shot with most RPM of them all.  Not sure how reliable the data is, but it is quoted here:

http://www.fawcette.net/2012/02/federer-hits-with-more-spin-than-nadal-.html

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Post by Tenez on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:35 am

Yes interesting article I had read once but was good to read again. I believe LF post it first.

I find it hard to believe that Bruguera put as much spin as Nadal without those new luxilon typr strings.

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:15 am

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I hope Dolgo beats Dimitrov.

I don't know who gets on my nerves more: him (being overhyped) or his girlfriend, what a pair!
I find Dolgo the more overhyped of the two - all style no substance.  Dimi I think genuinely has future.
SUMMERBLUES!!!
Where do I start...

Why oh why... (and once more just for good measure) OH WHY do people measure substance and future with money Wah 

Dolgo is priceless, a complete treasure of a player. What he does with a ball and the way he approaches it is nothing short of spectacular.
He is one of the very few players that makes tennis worth watching these days. Dimis - there are shoveloads of...
Do you really think Dolgo can't play like Dimitrov and scramble left, right and centre...of course he can, he is far more talented than Dimitrov. But for him tennis is first joy and thrill and then money. He's probably made enough to keep him in fast cars and an odd download from Itunes (and whatever else takes his fancy).

Dimitrov is so fake and calculating, right down to the choice of women he hangs around with, everything about him is "success".
He can't even walk properly. His gait is just so unappealingly backward for an athlete, on a par with Murray.
His tennis is boring, and so is he, not much of persona, wit or anything to distinguish him from the sea of others in the ATP pond.
To me, he is just a little more interesting than Granollers. The only thing I like about Dimitrov is that he kept his SBH (but unfortunately his game does not reflect it at all) and his resilient belief.
A good and smart coach may transform him and hone a decent game, but not Rasheed.

And the most unforgivable...the baby fed tag....what an insult, there is more Fed in the tip of Dolgo's little finger then in 5 Dimis put together.....

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Post by SayonaRa on Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:57 am

Dolgo is priceless, a complete treasure of a player. What he does with a ball and the way he approaches it is nothing short of spectacular.
He is one of the very few players that makes tennis  worth watching these days. Dimis - there are
So disappointing though. it wasn't even close. Dolgo had no control of the ball and made too many ufes. Maybe just one of those off-days......


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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:33 pm

Tuned in in the purrrrRFect time, to see Roger Les Magnifique seal his service game with an ooooh-aaaah FHDTL

COME ON ROGERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!diva diva diva diva diva

Send the baby F. for a nappy change!

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:39 pm

Not too perfect nitb, Fed's serve is under the since point 1.

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:42 pm

I am not worried about the serve, looks good to me, but the ball is a bit  lively on his FH, which is most unusual.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Dimi is racing through his service games. Fed has hardly won a return point.

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:45 pm

Fed the Dad is in the moooooood Bubbly 

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:47 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Dimi is racing through his service games. Fed has hardly won a return point.
not sure about that either, did you see that BH return?
Give Fed some time to work Dimi's serve out, this is their first match....

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:50 pm

Out of almost no where.. Fed breaks

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:50 pm

And The Daddy breaks with some sweeeeet stuff Magic 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc81Aaj3988

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:52 pm

Fed's on fire, haven't seen him like this in a looooong looooong time love love love love love love 

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:59 pm

And Fed bags the first set with a double break.
Really look forward to watching him in O2 now.

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Post by SayonaRa on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:05 pm

Battle of the SHBH. But the maestro clearly has the last word in the first set. Big Grin

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:05 pm

noleisthebest wrote:And Fed bags the first set with a double break.
Really look forward to watching him in O2 now.
 I'm not keeping y hopes too high. First let him win this Basel then perhaps when he faces the Nadals/Djokovic then we can see how is he shaping up for London.

Yes I'm skeptic Rose

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:07 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:And Fed bags the first set with a double break.
Really look forward to watching him in O2 now.
 I'm not keeping y hopes too high. First let him win this Basel then perhaps when he faces the Nadals/Djokovic then we can see how is he shaping up for London.

Yes I'm skeptic Rose
I'm not diva 
Fed with deal with Nadal easily in O2, but will be tough against Nole, cos he can play quite well indoors, too.

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:08 pm

See what I mean about the lively ball on his FH?

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:30 pm

Its going to be a 3 setter. And Fed doesn't look too good to win that.

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Post by ... on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:32 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Its going to be a 3 setter. And Fed doesn't look too good to win that.
Don't underestimate the old lion, rotla, and enjoy him while you can. It's easy to criticize.

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