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Is Lionel Messi really the greatest player of all time?

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Is Lionel Messi really the greatest player of all time?

Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:28 pm

Hey sports fans,
here is my take on the goat question.
Any feedback would be great ta!
http://richard-mills-sports.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/is-lionel-messi-greatest-player-of-all.html
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Re: Is Lionel Messi really the greatest player of all time?

Post by DECIMA on Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:53 pm

Where would he be if not for Xavi and Iniesta?

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Re: Is Lionel Messi really the greatest player of all time?

Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 pm

A point often made and from the several Barca fans I know, they staunchly say barca are a shadow of what they are without messi.

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Post by DECIMA on Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:16 pm

Nice article btw, forgot to mention.

Spain are basically Barca without Messi and they do quite well though lol

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:08 pm

thanks man.
Very true.
Do you agree with my point re era's or do you lean to a certain player?

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Re: Is Lionel Messi really the greatest player of all time?

Post by DECIMA on Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:45 pm

I'd probably marginally lean towards Ronaldhino, loved him.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:49 pm

I fecking loved old horse face. Him and Ronaldo (fat ronaldo) were my faves, along with zidane.

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Post by DECIMA on Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:24 pm

He was insane, his skills were incredible.
Bit like Nadal, except football smiley

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:40 pm

pah! yeah right!

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Post by ryanr2 on Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:24 pm

I don't think Messi is "the greatest player of all time", but he's definitely one of the best. He and Rolando are two main golden boot candidates at this World Cup. I so much hope Messi gets it smiley
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Post by Daniel on Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:22 pm

Ronaldinho at his best was better than Messi.

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Post by Veejay on Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:04 pm

messi didnt really feature much in the last world cup,especially the final...there were many complaints about him walking around in the pitch rather then being a part of the match
and that last penalty he took in the final was abysmal 
i think cristiano ronaldo is a far superior player

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Post by gallery play on Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 am

He would have been, had he won the WC this year with Argentina while being decisive till the last whistle.
For now Maradona is still the 'greatest', a controversial goat though

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:42 pm

I also think Maradona is still the greatest.

Messi should have delivered in Brazil. He did not.

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Post by Jeff756 on Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:21 am

Each player has their own style in playing. But my favorite will be Messi forever. I believe he is a bit more talented than the others players.
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Post by Emancipator on Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:00 pm

Maradona was better than Messi.

Played under tougher conditions:
1) Harder, heavier balls (and I remember how hard those balls were in the 80's - mitre delta and multiplex - they were the best balls but much heavier than todays balls. It takes incredible technique to play with those balls compared to the lightweight versions that are used today.

2) Worse pitches. Muddy, uneven, bobbly. Very difficult to be a skilful player on those pitches

3) No protection from referees. Maradona was tackled brutally on average every 90 seconds (according to data from the WC in 1990). All of those tackles would be minimum yellow cards nowadays - most of them str8 reds

4) Worse footwear which makes it more difficult to control, pass and shoot, and dribble.

Despite all of those handicaps he was still probably the best dribbler we've ever seen. He was a unique talent. He also performed whilst playing for average teams and won 2 scudettos in the most defensive league in the world.

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:04 pm

Just read your article and see that you addressed a couple of those points

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:05 pm

For me what Maradona could do on a football pitch was just mind boggling. I see Messi as a great talent but far from Maradona. I think he is a little overhyped: 1) because of his army of teenage fans who are constantly hyping him and have no real appreciation (or very little) of previous greats, and 2) Because every skill and every goal he scores gets magnified and beamed around the world immediately, whereas for Diego we have to rely on old grainy footage that captured less than 1% of what he did in his career in terms of skills.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:37 am

Always helps to read the article Winking

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:45 am

Interesting to read that it is always the same people stuck in the past.

Having said that I have not watched much of Messi and am not a great football connaisseur...and certainly Maradona was a real talent. Skills and will at its best.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:16 pm

so according to you Messi should be better?

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Post by Veejay on Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:24 pm

in my opinion christiano ronaldo is more talented then all of them
the way he plays the game is in my opinion the best i have ever seen,im not basing this on results but rather style ,pace ability etc
i think that ronaldo is a better player then messi

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:08 pm

I think CR9 is a better all round player than Messi.

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:57 pm

Greatest in any sport is a combination of achievement and talent. Achievement being the more stronger defining factor.

For me the GOAT in football would be Roberto Carlos. Has a CV to match and provided some quite bewildering moments in the sport. A mindset like no-one else.

Dennis Bergkamp was sublime. Never seen anyone play with refined flair like he did.

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Post by Emancipator on Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:39 pm

Roberto Carlos - lol.

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