Golden era of tennis?
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Superbly written article, top quality journalism.
I don't mind people disagreeing with my opinion when they put it like that, a pleasure to read.
I don't mind people disagreeing with my opinion when they put it like that, a pleasure to read.
N2D2L- Posts : 5813
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I think we had a period where it was very top-heavy, with an overlap of world class all-time-greats playing fantastic tennis at the same time.
That I think we were lucky to have, it did mean though it was very difficult to win a slam: looking it as a point of view from an outsider... you had Federer, Nadal, or Djokovic to beat maybe in a row to win a slam.
Now however I don't think it's the case anymore: Federer's declining quite sharply it seems, Murray and Nadal dealing with injury problems as well.
That I think we were lucky to have, it did mean though it was very difficult to win a slam: looking it as a point of view from an outsider... you had Federer, Nadal, or Djokovic to beat maybe in a row to win a slam.
Now however I don't think it's the case anymore: Federer's declining quite sharply it seems, Murray and Nadal dealing with injury problems as well.
N2D2L- Posts : 5813
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Thanks a lot bru!
Good points. You can really argue it quite well from a lot of ways and each have their fair few noteworthy points.
Good points. You can really argue it quite well from a lot of ways and each have their fair few noteworthy points.
luvsports!- Posts : 4718
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I haven't read the article yet, still, regarding the "golden era" theme I can say the following:
take away Federer, and we are left with one terrible, dull and as Cash said the other day - very boring era of tennis.
It is not entirely the players' fault, but current playing conditions as well as ITF's ATP's reluctance to deal with doping in tennis have all contributed to this uneventful and worthless era of tennis.
It's just fake and plastic.
I don't think I will ever want to watch a replay or a clip of any of the Nadal-Djokovic-Murray matches. Except for very few, I didn't even watch them live...
Having said all this, we can't deny that tennis has been very popular and that Federer-Nadal rivalry has contributed largely to it. Federer had to pay a heavy price for it, and so did partly Novak.
Nadal was pushed beyond all taste in order to sustain the lopsided and artificial rivalry. Talk about being in the right place at the right time...
Then came Nole who spiced up the story, then Murray massively pushed by desperate Britihs media...so we indeed have a golden era in terms of drama, hence endless fan "wars" etrnal GOAT discussions etc.
But as far as tennis is concerned it can't be further from golden.
It's very sad that it came to it, and I hope that somehow things change, however it's a long road and so far only this 25 second rule seems to have made a tiny improvement.
take away Federer, and we are left with one terrible, dull and as Cash said the other day - very boring era of tennis.
It is not entirely the players' fault, but current playing conditions as well as ITF's ATP's reluctance to deal with doping in tennis have all contributed to this uneventful and worthless era of tennis.
It's just fake and plastic.
I don't think I will ever want to watch a replay or a clip of any of the Nadal-Djokovic-Murray matches. Except for very few, I didn't even watch them live...
Having said all this, we can't deny that tennis has been very popular and that Federer-Nadal rivalry has contributed largely to it. Federer had to pay a heavy price for it, and so did partly Novak.
Nadal was pushed beyond all taste in order to sustain the lopsided and artificial rivalry. Talk about being in the right place at the right time...
Then came Nole who spiced up the story, then Murray massively pushed by desperate Britihs media...so we indeed have a golden era in terms of drama, hence endless fan "wars" etrnal GOAT discussions etc.
But as far as tennis is concerned it can't be further from golden.
It's very sad that it came to it, and I hope that somehow things change, however it's a long road and so far only this 25 second rule seems to have made a tiny improvement.
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noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Like the article we have a nice contrast in views
luvsports!- Posts : 4718
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I do think it's fair to say though that there wasn't too much strength in depth beneath the top 4 in terms of tennis greats.
I'd put it this way-
As an outsider:
-Relatively easy to reach QF stage of a Slam (not much strength in depth)
-Very Very Hard to actually win a slam, having to beat 2 maybe 3 world time greats to win one.
Of course as I said now it's deteriorated with Fed's decline and Nad-urray getting injured more often.
I'd put it this way-
As an outsider:
-Relatively easy to reach QF stage of a Slam (not much strength in depth)
-Very Very Hard to actually win a slam, having to beat 2 maybe 3 world time greats to win one.
Of course as I said now it's deteriorated with Fed's decline and Nad-urray getting injured more often.
N2D2L- Posts : 5813
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...and now I'm going to read your article
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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I wonder if the spanish, swiss and serbian press all go along with this golden era.
I bet the americans would point to sampras agassi and quite a few just dont really think about it.
I bet the americans would point to sampras agassi and quite a few just dont really think about it.
luvsports!- Posts : 4718
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Davis Cup aside, tennis rises above national tribalism.luvsports! wrote:I wonder if the spanish, swiss and serbian press all go along with this golden era.
I bet the americans would point to sampras agassi and quite a few just dont really think about it.
In Serbian media today for example, there was an article quoting Agassi who said that basically he is not sure who is better: Federer or Nadal...now that's pure and total rubbish and even he knows it, but then again, he is that cheap kind of guy so not surprising.
However...people's comments were roughly 50/50 and only one or two actually tried to add Nole to conversation.
The pro-Fed divide came from people who followed tennis more that 10 years.
Same kind of percentage spread was present with Cash's "boring tennis" story, so....tennis lovers agree universally regardless of where they are from.
It's not that hard, is it
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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And now that you have graduated, I'll take my professor's hat off and won't shred your article to bits
noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Although he is much maligned, I like Wilander or though he can say some odd stuff. Becker meh, JMAC yes and then sometimes just NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP! Agassi meh.
Haha nitb now that i have graduated, (was last fri and it was awesome!) I'll post a pic or two , you can rip me to shreds if you like im a big boy now!
Haha nitb now that i have graduated, (was last fri and it was awesome!) I'll post a pic or two , you can rip me to shreds if you like im a big boy now!
luvsports!- Posts : 4718
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Sorry extremely busy with no time to even read your blog LS....I'll be catching up later.
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