ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
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ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
Second week after Wimbledon is the time when most tennis fans switch to the zzzzzzzzzzzz.... mode.
Yes, it is Hamburg, the once prestigious tournament from the days when it was warm-up to Roland Garros, with its many memorable matches...
But that's not why we are all keen to follow it this year. It's because Fed has chosen to play it that has suddenly made Hamburg special for many.
So...
ATP 500 bet-at-home Open German Tennis Championships (aka Hamburg) clay
The bet-at-home Open - German Tennis Championships welcomes 48 top singles players and 16 doubles teams to the summer clay-court event as one of the 11 ATP World Tour 500 stops. The tournament is held in the heart of Hamburg at the Rothenbaum Tennis Center, which features a retractable roof stadium seating 13,200 spectators – making it the largest centre court in Germany.
Players:
Federer, Haas, Almagro, Janowicz, Paire, Simon, Monaco, Seppi, Dolgopolov, Gulbis, Verdasco, Fognini, Chardy, Youzhny, Davydenko (what a superb talented field!)
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/mds.pdf
Order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/op.pdf
ATP 250 Claro Open Colombia (aka Bogota) clay
The ATP World Tour returns to Bogotá, Colombia, in 2013, following the ATP Board of Directors’ approval of the sale of the Los Angeles tournament, an ATP World Tour 250 event, to IMLA de Colombia, a Colombian entertainment and sports marketing company. The Claro Open Colombia is staged at the Centro de Alto Rendimiento in Bogotá, the same venue that hosted an ATP World Tour event from 1997–2002.
Players:
Tipsarevic, Anderson, Malisse, Sijsling, Vasselin, Falla, Mannarino (can't help but notice how the crew in Hamburg is going to have to work a lot harder for their points)
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/6718/mds.pdf
Order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/6718/op.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0b0e2qum0Q
Yes, it is Hamburg, the once prestigious tournament from the days when it was warm-up to Roland Garros, with its many memorable matches...
But that's not why we are all keen to follow it this year. It's because Fed has chosen to play it that has suddenly made Hamburg special for many.
So...
ATP 500 bet-at-home Open German Tennis Championships (aka Hamburg) clay
The bet-at-home Open - German Tennis Championships welcomes 48 top singles players and 16 doubles teams to the summer clay-court event as one of the 11 ATP World Tour 500 stops. The tournament is held in the heart of Hamburg at the Rothenbaum Tennis Center, which features a retractable roof stadium seating 13,200 spectators – making it the largest centre court in Germany.
Players:
Federer, Haas, Almagro, Janowicz, Paire, Simon, Monaco, Seppi, Dolgopolov, Gulbis, Verdasco, Fognini, Chardy, Youzhny, Davydenko (what a superb talented field!)
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/mds.pdf
Order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/op.pdf
ATP 250 Claro Open Colombia (aka Bogota) clay
The ATP World Tour returns to Bogotá, Colombia, in 2013, following the ATP Board of Directors’ approval of the sale of the Los Angeles tournament, an ATP World Tour 250 event, to IMLA de Colombia, a Colombian entertainment and sports marketing company. The Claro Open Colombia is staged at the Centro de Alto Rendimiento in Bogotá, the same venue that hosted an ATP World Tour event from 1997–2002.
Players:
Tipsarevic, Anderson, Malisse, Sijsling, Vasselin, Falla, Mannarino (can't help but notice how the crew in Hamburg is going to have to work a lot harder for their points)
Draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/6718/mds.pdf
Order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/6718/op.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0b0e2qum0Q
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noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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Not directly related to this week's tournaments, but interesting to observe some changes in the top 10/20:
I'll never know how Monaco keeps himself so high in the rankings.
Janowicz progressing through well, proper, steady breakthrough.
I think he probably wasn't even in top 200 this time last year.
It's a matter of time before he gets into top 10.
1 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) | 12,310 | 0 | 19 |
2 Murray, Andy (GBR) | 9,360 | 0 | 18 |
3 Ferrer, David (ESP) | 7,120 | 0 | 25 |
4 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) | 6,860 | 0 | 19 |
5 Federer, Roger (SUI) | 5,785 | 0 | 20 |
6 Berdych, Tomas (CZE) | 4,865 | 0 | 25 |
7 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) | 4,500 | 0 | 23 |
8 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) | 3,480 | 0 | 25 |
9 Gasquet, Richard (FRA) | 3,045 | 0 | 23 |
10 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI) | 2,915 | 0 | 24 |
11 Haas, Tommy (GER) | 2,605 | 0 | 27 |
12 Nishikori, Kei (JPN) | 2,495 | 0 | 22 |
13 Raonic, Milos (CAN) | 2,225 | 2 | 24 |
14 Cilic, Marin (CRO) | 2,175 | -1 | 23 |
15 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP) | 2,135 | 1 | 25 |
16 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB) | 2,130 | -2 | 27 |
17 Janowicz, Jerzy (POL) | 2,064 | 0 | 21 |
18 Simon, Gilles (FRA) | 2,055 | 0 | 26 |
19 Querrey, Sam (USA) | 1,730 | 2 | 25 |
20 Monaco, Juan (ARG) | 1,680 | 0 | 26 |
Janowicz progressing through well, proper, steady breakthrough.
I think he probably wasn't even in top 200 this time last year.
It's a matter of time before he gets into top 10.
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Interesting to see that Nadal played nearly as many tournaments as the other top 3 despite having not played from now till the end of the year.
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No he did not. I noticed the same thing a few weeks back and was puzzled so I had a closer look at the ATP website. They include all countable tournaments in the count - so for example they include all Masters/GSs - even the ones he skipped - because they are compulsory, so they are countable (with zero points) even if he skips them.Tenez wrote:Interesting to see that Nadal played nearly as many tournaments as the other top 3 despite having not played from now till the end of the year.
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summerblues wrote:No he did not. I noticed the same thing a few weeks back and was puzzled so I had a closer look at the ATP website. They include all countable tournaments in the count - so for example they include all Masters/GSs - even the ones he skipped - because they are compulsory, so they are countable (with zero points) even if he skips them.Tenez wrote:Interesting to see that Nadal played nearly as many tournaments as the other top 3 despite having not played from now till the end of the year.
Did not know that. It kills a bit the purpose, isn't it?
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I was really looking forward to the Davydenko - Dolgopolov match today, but Davy managed to lose to F. Mayer yesterday!!!
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Saw this article on tennis.com, pulled out from 5 years ago, when S. Tignor, just like many before and after him "predicted" Federer's decline.
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/herr-forehand/48367/#.UeVUtnDRfzI
I liked this description of his forehand, though:
". The German's shot was a raw force of nature; Federer's is a kind of Platonic ideal of the stroke.
.........
But what isn’t inevitable is seeing Federer lose his shots, particularly his forehand, completely. The times when Graf did were painful to watch. There was something not right about seeing her blast that famous roundhouse stroke 10 feet wide—her nickname was Fräulein Forehand, after all. There was something not right in seeing Federer do the same with his effortlessly lethal and elegantly efficient forehand as the match went on last night. Maybe it’s the pressure of the Slam record. Maybe it’s the rise of Nadal. Maybe it’s the Wimbledon final. Maybe it’s the lack of hard-court practice. Maybe it’s the aging process. Maybe it's the "monster" of expectations. Maybe it was just one match. Maybe it won’t last. I’m all for changing of the guards at No. 1, and I understand that losses happen. But as with Graf, if nothing else I want to see Federer hit his forehands in. Her force of athletic nature, his Platonic ideal: Those shots were put on the earth to work. The sport just wouldn't seem right otherwise."
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/herr-forehand/48367/#.UeVUtnDRfzI
I liked this description of his forehand, though:
". The German's shot was a raw force of nature; Federer's is a kind of Platonic ideal of the stroke.
.........
But what isn’t inevitable is seeing Federer lose his shots, particularly his forehand, completely. The times when Graf did were painful to watch. There was something not right about seeing her blast that famous roundhouse stroke 10 feet wide—her nickname was Fräulein Forehand, after all. There was something not right in seeing Federer do the same with his effortlessly lethal and elegantly efficient forehand as the match went on last night. Maybe it’s the pressure of the Slam record. Maybe it’s the rise of Nadal. Maybe it’s the Wimbledon final. Maybe it’s the lack of hard-court practice. Maybe it’s the aging process. Maybe it's the "monster" of expectations. Maybe it was just one match. Maybe it won’t last. I’m all for changing of the guards at No. 1, and I understand that losses happen. But as with Graf, if nothing else I want to see Federer hit his forehands in. Her force of athletic nature, his Platonic ideal: Those shots were put on the earth to work. The sport just wouldn't seem right otherwise."
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Was that after the 2008 Wimby final? Fed has a strange year playing some of his best and worst tennis.
Fed changed his FH, it did not decline (though I though like Steve that it did from 2007) but he simply added spin and safety into it. However he shoudl have done that with a bigger frame then....like everybody else. Still he went on to win quite a few more slams.
Fed changed his FH, it did not decline (though I though like Steve that it did from 2007) but he simply added spin and safety into it. However he shoudl have done that with a bigger frame then....like everybody else. Still he went on to win quite a few more slams.
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I think this was written after his first round loss to Simon in Toronto 2008 (which was the first time they played, as well) , which was probably Federer's first match after the 2008 W final.
Funny, how we got used to his losses, I remember the days when they were as rare as major earthquakes, and the shock that followed the news, and the instant fame for whoever did it.
I even remember when Nole first beat him in the Montreal 2007 final I think. That was such a monumental achievement!
That 2008 was a strange year, with Fed's mono and Novak not being able to take off after his first AO slam, he just suffered some terrible and close losses to Nadal instead, who made the most of the situation.
Funny, how we got used to his losses, I remember the days when they were as rare as major earthquakes, and the shock that followed the news, and the instant fame for whoever did it.
I even remember when Nole first beat him in the Montreal 2007 final I think. That was such a monumental achievement!
That 2008 was a strange year, with Fed's mono and Novak not being able to take off after his first AO slam, he just suffered some terrible and close losses to Nadal instead, who made the most of the situation.
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noleisthebest wrote:Funny, how we got used to his losses, I remember the days when they were as rare as major earthquakes, and the shock that followed the news, and the instant fame for whoever did it.
Canas in In Miami and then Volandri in Rome......in 2007!!! prompted the sacking of Toni Roche. That is when I believe he decided to change his FH.
I even remember when Nole first beat him in the Montreal 2007 final I think. That was such a monumental achievement!Tenez wrote:
Do you remember the details? Fed had 3 set points on his serve (40/0 up) (or was it 3 MPs?) and then Fed lost it.....But what happened a couple of weeks later at the USO final?
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Tenez wrote:noleisthebest wrote:Funny, how we got used to his losses, I remember the days when they were as rare as major earthquakes, and the shock that followed the news, and the instant fame for whoever did it.
Canas in In Miami and then Volandri in Rome......in 2007!!! prompted the sacking of Toni Roche. That is when I believe he decided to change his FH.
I even remember when Nole first beat him in the Montreal 2007 final I think. That was such a monumental achievement!Tenez wrote:
Do you remember the details? Fed had 3 set points on his serve (40/0 up) (or was it 3 MPs?) and then Fed lost it.....But what happened a couple of weeks later at the USO final?
7 squandered set points from inexperienced, first ever slam appeareance Nole?
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Well obviously....not much to do with experience. He messed up again at the FO last month and Federer who had plenty of experience in Montreal 2007 also messed up. Those things simply happen. ALways have, always will. And it makes sport more interesting to watch actually.
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I don't think they were MPs, I remember the MP very well, Nole lobbed Fed.
I could be wrong, here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFhKS9xhJk
I could be wrong, here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNFhKS9xhJk
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OH, this really brought back some memories...I enjoyed their early matches, liked Nole's game more then as well, although he couldn't volley to save his life.
Was a lot more aggressive, esp on his FH....
I can't believe it's been 7 years since that match...an era that is definitely entering its final(ish) phase. Nooooooooooooooooooo
And then came the king of clay and sandy paint....I'll never forgive it to whoever masterminded and pushed it, the more I think about it the more upset I get....
Was a lot more aggressive, esp on his FH....
I can't believe it's been 7 years since that match...an era that is definitely entering its final(ish) phase. Nooooooooooooooooooo
And then came the king of clay and sandy paint....I'll never forgive it to whoever masterminded and pushed it, the more I think about it the more upset I get....
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Tenez wrote:Well obviously....not much to do with experience. He messed up again at the FO last month and Federer who had plenty of experience in Montreal 2007 also messed up. Those things simply happen. ALways have, always will. And it makes sport more interesting to watch actually.
Of course it does, who can forget USO 2011 SF and The (lucky*) Shot
I love those matches, I hope this new racquet brings back the fire and fun into slam finals, they simply have not been the same without Fed.
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The long awaited order of play for tomorrow out at last
Some good matches!
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/op.pdf
Some good matches!
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/414/op.pdf
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noleisthebest wrote:I was really looking forward to the Davydenko - Dolgopolov match today, but Davy managed to lose to F. Mayer yesterday!!!
Managed to lose? Don't you mean "fixed" to lose? It is Davydenko we are talking about right?
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Back just in time!!!!
Come On Roggie
Come On Roggie
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I can't find a stream, HEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!
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So weird watching clay tennis after Wimbledon...I really enjoyed that short grass season, it has to get longer, it really does!
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I must say he looks at odds with that ne racquet. As mentioned he will lose quite a bit of precision on his serve and ground shots and the strings elasticity will play a greater role.
However he should gain in power, including powered returns.
In trouble..0/40 down..
However he should gain in power, including powered returns.
In trouble..0/40 down..
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I don't know what to make out of it, definitely a little strange.
Looks a bit slow and not as sharp as before, he'll will probably look much better on faster courts.
Looks a bit slow and not as sharp as before, he'll will probably look much better on faster courts.
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He certainly lacks confidence but we would expect that with this new racquet.
I don't think it will last long but we shoudl certainly not underestimate the challenge to change tools for such a crafty player.
I don't think it will last long but we shoudl certainly not underestimate the challenge to change tools for such a crafty player.
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ooooh!
What a BH for the break GO ROG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a BH for the break GO ROG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tenez wrote:He certainly lacks confidence but we would expect that with this new racquet.
I don't think it will last long but we shoudl certainly not underestimate the challenge to change tools for such a crafty player.
I hate to watch him play without confidence, it's a painful and sad experience.
He should get going after this break, although he is clearly cautious compared to his usual self.
If I understood the German commentator correctly, he should playing Gulbis tomorrow.
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Yaaaaay!!!
3rd set
Brands seems a decent player.
Nice to see a young German with a SBH carrying the torch for Haas and Kholi.
3rd set
Brands seems a decent player.
Nice to see a young German with a SBH carrying the torch for Haas and Kholi.
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Roger playing completely relaxed now, very nice!
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It's funny how nadal and Federer expose their opponents' weaknesses.
Here typical as they both played Brands recently.
Brands looked a very good player versus Nadal until he ran out of gas. Nadal can even make injured Darcis look good! In short Brands has better shots than Nadal but Nadal again exposed his lack of stamina. Nadal actually only exposes lack of stamina and at best he can expose a lack of power.
Federer on the other hand, exposes Brands slow mouvement, shot inconsistency, especially under pacier shots, lack of anticipation etc...all that despite playing with a new racquet for the first time.
Here typical as they both played Brands recently.
Brands looked a very good player versus Nadal until he ran out of gas. Nadal can even make injured Darcis look good! In short Brands has better shots than Nadal but Nadal again exposed his lack of stamina. Nadal actually only exposes lack of stamina and at best he can expose a lack of power.
Federer on the other hand, exposes Brands slow mouvement, shot inconsistency, especially under pacier shots, lack of anticipation etc...all that despite playing with a new racquet for the first time.
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Very true!
Outplaying vs outlasting.
Outplaying vs outlasting.
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Job done, one can't ask for more after the first match
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Just managed to get in home and Fed wins the match. I so wanted to see the how was he playing with the new racquet.
Anyone , can you please tell me how was he? He lost 1st set.
Anyone , can you please tell me how was he? He lost 1st set.
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He looked much more comfortable 2nd and 3rd set... looked fantastic actually.
He wasn't wearing compression shirt underneath- and it's apparent he's hit the gym as well... Once he gets some confidence in the new stick-- I think he's going to get on a roll.
He wasn't wearing compression shirt underneath- and it's apparent he's hit the gym as well... Once he gets some confidence in the new stick-- I think he's going to get on a roll.
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raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Just managed to get in home and Fed wins the match. I so wanted to see the how was he playing with the new racquet.
Anyone , can you please tell me how was he? He lost 1st set.
He was a bit cautious, so difficult to tell, as confidence makes all the difference in his game. Because of it he looked a bit slower than usual, but when he relaxed towards the end, was very much like his old self.
I didn't notice any extra pace on any of his shots, although when he timed them well, they were superb: heavy and fast. Really difficult to tell, he'll need a few more matches and then hopefully his serving will be under less stress, too.
I preferred him with the old wand for now, but will reserve the judgement until the USO.
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Thanks truffin!. and nitb
And great news. Its very painful to watch Fed play playing so badly. I hope he now can play better.
And great news. Its very painful to watch Fed play playing so badly. I hope he now can play better.
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Some nice matches today
Paire-Monaco
GG Lopez-Almagro
Berlocq-Haas
Federer-Hajek (so, no Gulbis!)
JJ-Verdasco (should be a really good one!)
Paire-Monaco
GG Lopez-Almagro
Berlocq-Haas
Federer-Hajek (so, no Gulbis!)
JJ-Verdasco (should be a really good one!)
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noleisthebest wrote:Some nice matches today
Paire-Monaco
GG Lopez-Almagro
Berlocq-Haas
Federer-Hajek (so, no Gulbis!)
JJ-Verdasco (should be a really good one!)
Looks like his only concern is winning 1 set. I don't know how many matches has he lost where he won the 2nd set. Gulbis needs to start good, he often is a slow starter and is left chasing the game. That doesn't favour him at all.
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Monaco-Paire started
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raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Monaco-Paire started
and I am back from baking on the court myself, ALLEZ BENOIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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JJ Verdasco starting. I hope I can find a working stream this time, couldn't find any good ones for Paire Monaco match.
So annoying there is only the Haas Berlocq stream.
JJ retired against Verdasco in the 2nd set. I hope it's not an attitude problem.
So annoying there is only the Haas Berlocq stream.
JJ retired against Verdasco in the 2nd set. I hope it's not an attitude problem.
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Federer - Hajek starting, Fed serving
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Fed's movement on clay is beautiful.
I really can't stand Hajek's grunting.
And Fed breaks him for the one set lead. Looking good, esp BH. Serving better than yesterday, as well.
I really can't stand Hajek's grunting.
And Fed breaks him for the one set lead. Looking good, esp BH. Serving better than yesterday, as well.
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Great first game for Fed in the 2nd set. Served and volleyed on 3 points, incl one on his 2nd serve.
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The new racquet looks considerably bigger in his hands. It apparently allowing him to hit harder especially with the BH.
Commentators talking about Nadal having a 100sq inch raquet. No wonder precision of shots were never on his mind.
Commentators talking about Nadal having a 100sq inch raquet. No wonder precision of shots were never on his mind.
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That was a jaw-dropingly good smash from Federer.
..and it's a job done with some great tennis played. Fed looked like he really enjoyed himself today, very different from yesterday.
..and it's a job done with some great tennis played. Fed looked like he really enjoyed himself today, very different from yesterday.
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A funny write-up on today's match from P. Bodo
"When Roger Federer tucks his little ones in tonight, he’ll probably pause to have a few words with the newest edition to the family, little Wilson. He’ll probably say:
“You did very well today, I’m so proud of you! Sure, you didn’t exactly behave your best on some of those forehands I shanked, but the cut backhands—wonderful! The retrieves? Superb! Okay, so at the end of those sets you kind of let me down. I mean, when does it take me five set points to win a set? How often, on my own, do I blow five match points and let a guy escape with the game—and maybe the match?
Sure, I served it out afterward to win it comfortably, 6-4, 6-3. But there’s a lesson in this for you, and you might as well learn it now. It isn’t always going to be Jan Hajek across the net. It could be Novak, or Rafa, or Andy, and that might be a different story. So we’re going to work on this. . . focus, focus, focus! Night-nite, Wilson.”
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/hamburg-federer-d-hajek/48421/#.UegjW3DRfzI
"When Roger Federer tucks his little ones in tonight, he’ll probably pause to have a few words with the newest edition to the family, little Wilson. He’ll probably say:
“You did very well today, I’m so proud of you! Sure, you didn’t exactly behave your best on some of those forehands I shanked, but the cut backhands—wonderful! The retrieves? Superb! Okay, so at the end of those sets you kind of let me down. I mean, when does it take me five set points to win a set? How often, on my own, do I blow five match points and let a guy escape with the game—and maybe the match?
Sure, I served it out afterward to win it comfortably, 6-4, 6-3. But there’s a lesson in this for you, and you might as well learn it now. It isn’t always going to be Jan Hajek across the net. It could be Novak, or Rafa, or Andy, and that might be a different story. So we’re going to work on this. . . focus, focus, focus! Night-nite, Wilson.”
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/hamburg-federer-d-hajek/48421/#.UegjW3DRfzI
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Re: ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
QF matches on the menu today:
HAMBURG:
Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP)
Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) vs Federico DELBONIS (ARG)
Fabio FOGNINI (ITA) vs Tommy HAAS (GER)
Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Florian MAYER (GER)
&
BOGOTA:
Adrian MANNARINO (FRA) vs Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO)
Santiago GIRALDO (COL) vs Kevin ANDERSON (RSA)
Matteo VIOLA (ITA) vs Vasek POSPISIL (CAN)
Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) vs Alejandro FALLA (COL)
HAMBURG:
Juan MONACO (ARG) vs Nicolas ALMAGRO (ESP)
Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) vs Federico DELBONIS (ARG)
Fabio FOGNINI (ITA) vs Tommy HAAS (GER)
Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Florian MAYER (GER)
&
BOGOTA:
Adrian MANNARINO (FRA) vs Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO)
Santiago GIRALDO (COL) vs Kevin ANDERSON (RSA)
Matteo VIOLA (ITA) vs Vasek POSPISIL (CAN)
Janko TIPSAREVIC (SRB) vs Alejandro FALLA (COL)
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Re: ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
Strange score in the Monaco - Almagro match 6:4 0:6 3:6
Talking of scores, read this last night, quite amusing, both from a tennis watcher and player's perspective:
"6-1, 6-1: When I see this score at the pro level, it makes me think: tank. Someone played just well enough to avoid getting bageled, but no better.
6-2, 6-2: If I could choose to win a match by a score, it would be this (or maybe 7-6 in the fifth set). Two and two is elegant, symmetrical, and it doesn’t look you needed to prove anything by winning 0 and 0 or something.
6-3, 6-3: My main memory of this score also came in college. I was a freshman or sophomore and one of our popular seniors was playing a challenge match against a walk-on, a kid that no one wanted on the team. When it ended, our friend came over to join our drills on another court. We could tell that he had won, but someone asked him the score. He grinned: “Threes, baby!” It was all under control, baby, nice and easy, 3 and 3, no need to worry.
7-5, 5-7, 7-5: What are the chances of this? But it was the score line of an excellent match between Lleyton Hewitt and Roger Federer (won by Hewitt) in Shanghai early in the last decade. When it was over, Bud Collins asked, rhetorically, “Have you ever seen a better match?”
7-6, 7-6: A macho score; at least on the surface, neither player had their serve broken.
6-1, 2-6, 6-1: There’s something disappointing about an up and down score like this. It went on for a while, it had a change in momentum, but the players likely never played well at the same time. It doesn't add up.
7-5, 6-0: From the winner’s perspective, an exercise in willpower and breaking an opponent down completely. The opposite, unfortunately, for the loser.
0-6, 7-6, 6-4: A choke. I would know, because I choked and lost a junior match by this score. The thought of it, two decades later, still makes me detest myself a little. I try not to think about it.
I could go on, obviously. But to close, let me say what I think, purely from an aesthetic, poetic standpoint, is the best score in tennis. It is this:
6-4, 6-7, 7-6. There’s the symmetry of the first and third sets going to the winner; what was started, was finished. There’s simplicity—only three numbers are used (provided you're not curious about the tiebreaker scores; why ruin a good thing with useless information?). There’s smoothness—going from 6-7 to 7-6 flows well vocally. And there’s drama in those numbers: The match went the distance, and built to a cliff-hanging conclusion."
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/whats-score/48415/#.UekxA3DRfzI
Talking of scores, read this last night, quite amusing, both from a tennis watcher and player's perspective:
"6-1, 6-1: When I see this score at the pro level, it makes me think: tank. Someone played just well enough to avoid getting bageled, but no better.
6-2, 6-2: If I could choose to win a match by a score, it would be this (or maybe 7-6 in the fifth set). Two and two is elegant, symmetrical, and it doesn’t look you needed to prove anything by winning 0 and 0 or something.
6-3, 6-3: My main memory of this score also came in college. I was a freshman or sophomore and one of our popular seniors was playing a challenge match against a walk-on, a kid that no one wanted on the team. When it ended, our friend came over to join our drills on another court. We could tell that he had won, but someone asked him the score. He grinned: “Threes, baby!” It was all under control, baby, nice and easy, 3 and 3, no need to worry.
7-5, 5-7, 7-5: What are the chances of this? But it was the score line of an excellent match between Lleyton Hewitt and Roger Federer (won by Hewitt) in Shanghai early in the last decade. When it was over, Bud Collins asked, rhetorically, “Have you ever seen a better match?”
7-6, 7-6: A macho score; at least on the surface, neither player had their serve broken.
6-1, 2-6, 6-1: There’s something disappointing about an up and down score like this. It went on for a while, it had a change in momentum, but the players likely never played well at the same time. It doesn't add up.
7-5, 6-0: From the winner’s perspective, an exercise in willpower and breaking an opponent down completely. The opposite, unfortunately, for the loser.
0-6, 7-6, 6-4: A choke. I would know, because I choked and lost a junior match by this score. The thought of it, two decades later, still makes me detest myself a little. I try not to think about it.
I could go on, obviously. But to close, let me say what I think, purely from an aesthetic, poetic standpoint, is the best score in tennis. It is this:
6-4, 6-7, 7-6. There’s the symmetry of the first and third sets going to the winner; what was started, was finished. There’s simplicity—only three numbers are used (provided you're not curious about the tiebreaker scores; why ruin a good thing with useless information?). There’s smoothness—going from 6-7 to 7-6 flows well vocally. And there’s drama in those numbers: The match went the distance, and built to a cliff-hanging conclusion."
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/07/whats-score/48415/#.UekxA3DRfzI
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Re: ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
And while I'm at it..here's that phenomenal smash from Fed yesterday, not the best video unfortunately:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydveiCTAyNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydveiCTAyNM
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Re: ATP 500/250: Hamburg, Bogota
Verdasco-Debonis finished....AT LAST!
7:6 6:7 4:6 (still on the score topic: what a horrible score to lose with!)
Fognini Haas next, should be very good.
Forza Fogna!!!
7:6 6:7 4:6 (still on the score topic: what a horrible score to lose with!)
Fognini Haas next, should be very good.
Forza Fogna!!!
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