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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:26 am

noleisthebest wrote:There is something technically wrong with the posting system atm. Not able to "quote"; the cursor stays in the quoted text, can't "get it out" on the white section of the box.
I noticed a different "look" of posting boxes the other day, with different colour and font, but now it's getting in the way. Is it just the Forumotion experimenting and trying to  push the "new version"?
Let's try.....

I noticed the change and I am not sure what/who processed it but I think the change is not bad unless there is a problem with quoting of course. YOU use a mac, right?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:27 am

That BH pass was just gorgeous!!!!Magic

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:29 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:There is something technically wrong with the posting system atm. Not able to "quote"; the cursor stays in the quoted text, can't "get it out" on the white section of the box.
I noticed a different "look" of posting boxes the other day, with different colour and font, but now it's getting in the way. Is it just the Forumotion experimenting and trying to  push the "new version"?
Let's try.....

I noticed the change and I am not sure what/who processed it but I think the change is not bad unless there is a problem with quoting of course. YOU use a mac, right?  
YES, see, the typing comes in the quoted text Blush

Can't you see the white part?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:33 am

I can, but the cursor stays in the beige box, can't get it out of there in to the white box.

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:34 am

Good to see some grass tennis again, especially when Fed's in the house. Rog is very consistant in his gameplan: Serve-setup shot-volley.

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:35 am

noleisthebest wrote:I can, but the cursor stays in the beige box, can't get it out of there in to the white box.


I have the same problem..

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:35 am

In the meantime, Fed bagels Zverev in the first set. Nice to see him play with confidence, and the BH is sizzling!!!!

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:36 am

8-0
Zverev is a little lost out there

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:39 am

Could turn out in a "bicyclette", aka double bagel

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:40 am

Yes, you've got to be quick on that grass in Halle.
Plus, he lost the little belief he had at the beginning of the match, his volleying is now desperate and panicked.

But I don't mind, makes Fed look even more glorious Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:43 am

Next match will be a bit more interesting, playing the winner of Haas/Monfils

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:43 am

ouch Zverev. Had 2 game points.. The double is still on (but what a passing shot there)


Zverev is a top 50 player, isn't he?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:45 am

NO, just had a look - 156th!!!

But at least he is playing a proper grass tennis, unlike that horror Stebe yesterday....

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:46 am

11-0, can he do it?

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:47 am

Wow, my stream is really slow, I'm at advantage Fed 3:0!!! and only 33 minutes of play for the hole match so far!!!!!!!!!


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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:48 am

Well, was once a top 50 player, 4 years ago though

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:48 am

But did you notice how poor, strange rather, was Federer serve in that last service game. Clearly he still has a problem.

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:49 am

That's grass tennis, fast like it should be Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:49 am

Tenez wrote:But did you notice how poor, strange rather, was Federer serve in that last service game. Clearly he still has a problem. I noticed the grunt.

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:50 am

12-0

What's the standing of the the golden bagel award?
Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:51 am

gallery play wrote:That's grass tennis, fast like it should be Winking
I agree. Short rallies> Skills over sweat any time.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:52 am

This weekend shoudl be interesting to see who is in form on grass.

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:52 am

Maybe you're right T. Despite the crazy score he doesn't float like a butterfly..

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:55 am

Wow, that was quick!
The match was def under 45 minutes....

Well spotted for the serve looking off in the last few games. We'll see everything more clearly in his next match. 
I hope he is fine.
He could certainly do with this tournament under his belt going to Wimbledon.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:58 am

gallery play wrote:Maybe you're right T. Despite the crazy score he doesn't float like a butterfly..
I only saw 4 points on his serve so it may have been a weird move but he was a very strange move on his service action.

ZVerev was a joke though.

I'd love to see Federer get to 8 Wimby. He deserves it!

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:59 am

One thing that really sticks out so much now is the speed of surface after the clay swing and how crucial the grass prep is, contrary what some posters think.
I didn't see many matches, but Tsonga looked instantly adjusted, same as Mahut.
I think that grass in Halle is even faster than in Queens.
Footwork is definitely one of the nicest thing to observe on grass, esp those who'e got it.
Those who don't look even worse than usual.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:00 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:Maybe you're right T. Despite the crazy score he doesn't float like a butterfly..
I only saw 4 points on his serve so it may have been a weird move but he was a very strange move on his service action.

ZVerev was a joke though.

I'd love to see Federer get to 8 Wimby. He deserves it!
 

I know this is sheer heresy from a Nole fan, but so would I!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:04 pm

It's so difficult to judge on a screen, especially with different camera angle,  but I felt that Queens was faster than Halle.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:09 pm

Tenez wrote:It's so difficult to judge on a screen, especially with different camera angle,  but I felt that Queens was faster than Halle.

I was judging not looking at the bounce/speed, but just the footwork in players. You know grass is fast when Fed does not look fast on it as he does on every other surface. Gulbis struggled yesterday, too. Esp with returning. Plus had so much less reaction time. It has been fascinating to see what difference the proper fast surface is making. No wonder Nadal withdrew from Halle. I just so hope Wimbledon don't sell their soul and serve up that slow grass again.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:33 pm

This Mayer has the biggest FH swing ever, makes Gulbis's look compact and elegant!

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Post by gallery play on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:37 pm

traditionally Halle is  slower than Queens. Halle is in terms of speed very much the same as Wimbledon but less durable.

The camera angle is indeed misleading.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:42 pm

Well, Gasquet and Mayer moonballing it from the baseline definitely make the grass look suddenly slower compared to the previous match...

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:21 pm

Haas Monfils time!!!diva

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:41 pm

Now that I've seen Monfils win the first set (TB) against the last year champion Haas with relative ease, I am even more intrigued to know  why he keeps giving Wimbledon this cold shoulder treatment....

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:46 pm

Hewitt-Del Potro starting at Queens. 
Earlier, Cilic knocked Berdych out in two close sets. If he was more stable between the ears, Cilic could really be a decent player on grass...and HC, of course. 
Who can forget him serving at 5:1 for a two sets to love lead against Murray at last year's USO....

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:08 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Now that I've seen Monfils win the first set (TB) against the last year champion Haas with relative ease, I am even more intrigued to know  why he keeps giving Wimbledon this cold shoulder treatment....
He must have been treated badly there. I cannot think of another reason.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:11 pm

Looks like Delpo has not learnt how to bend the knees on grass.

Hewitt could actually be a real banana skin in Wimby this year if he plays like in the good old days.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:56 pm

...and Monfils manages to lose the match....so it will be the repeat of the last year's final in the semi tomorrow, go Fed!

And now time to see a bit of Hewitt & Delpo.

..the spent force still knows how to move on grass, unlike the lumbering Delpo.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:30 pm

So it's Hewitt against Cilic in the SF tomorrow.
He gave Delpo a lesson today, and I am always for guile winning over brawn.
Hewitt never played any breath-taking tennis but still managed to make Delpo look 1D and awkward on grass.
Nice control on the ball, always a welcome break from the usual base-line bashing...

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Fed explains his double bagel win against Zverev today:

"It's not something which is easy to do. You never go into a match aiming for that score. I was very surprised that it happened today, especially on grass.
I hope he doesn't take it too badly. I just had a pretty easy time picking up his serve, and I must have made a ton of returns. I think it is disappointing for a serve and volley player to go down like this. It shows also how easy it is to hit passing shots or returns today."

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Time to see who Kudla is....

That was a pathetic TB from Becker. Youzhny seems to be in good form.

Tomorrow's semis:

Queens:
Hewitt-Cilic
Murray-Tsonga/Kudla

Halle:
Federer-Haas
Youzhny-Gasquet   so all 4 SBH in Halle tomorrow, super!!!! Magic

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:54 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Halle:
Federer-Haas
Youzhny-Gasquet   so all 4 SBH in Halle tomorrow, super!!!! Magic
How weird is that? Clearly been a re-newed trend recently.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:29 pm

Thanks goodness for JW Tsonga who lit up dreary Qeeens today! Star

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Fed-Haas started. They both make tennis so much better to look at. Good LuckGood Luck

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:41 pm

Haas has built quite some good strength of the upper body and arms. His SHBH is quite strong and doesn't seem as prone to breaking down as Fed's.
 
Haas a Break up 4*-2

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:52 pm

Haas wins the first set in some quick time. Fed spraying many UEs.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:22 pm

Set2 Fed Somersault

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Post by gallery play on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:24 pm

I expected more of this match. So many errors, so little winners

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Post by Tenez on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:25 pm

Did you watch the first set rotla? I am just tuning in and was half  surprised to see Federer losing teh first set. I was not impressed by his last game I saw yesterday....even if the score told a different story.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:27 pm

Yes I can see what you mean GP...Fed n Haas spraying the ball everywhere.

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