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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:30 pm

Order of play out for tomorrow:

Court Philippe Chatrier 1:00 PM UK time

Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [4]vs.Sara Errani (ITA) [5]
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) [6]vs.Roger Federer (SUI) [2]

Court Suzanne Lenglen 1:00 UK time

Serena Williams (USA) [1]vs.Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)
Tommy Robredo (ESP) [32]vs.David Ferrer (ESP) [4]

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:30 pm

Terrible to see Gasquet gone physically when it was Stan who took the MTO.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:32 pm

Tenez wrote:Terrible to see Gasquet gone physically when it was Stan who took the MTO.

It's all that effort that's been waisted 3m behind the BL Whistle

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:33 pm

Super point from Gasquet for BP Magic

Seems he plays his best, attacking tennis when he's run out of gas like Nole Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:34 pm

Stan great too Applause and obviously livid with line calls....

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:41 pm

Richie looking less and less frustrating by the minute Cool

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:43 pm

Stan is tiring as well.

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:48 pm

It's going to be tough for Gasquet to serve to stay in teh match.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Tenez wrote:It's going to be tough for Gasquet to serve to stay in teh match.
T, Gasquet is 2:1!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:53 pm

5th set!

Survival of the least worn-out Sad

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:57 pm

Oh sad! There will be only one winner here...and it is the Spanish Anacunda!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:58 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's going to be tough for Gasquet to serve to stay in teh match.
T, Gasquet is 2:1!!!!
Yep...I meant set.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:01 pm

Tenez wrote:Oh sad! There will be only one winner here...and it is the Spanish Anacunda!

It will all be avenged on Friday Bubbly

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:05 pm

I have no idea who is going to win this!

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:24 pm

Chatrier crowd & atmosphere at very finest diva

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:28 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I have no idea who is going to win this!

I know...unfortunately.

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:35 pm

Its was always inevitable that this would happen,its always the same thing with Gasquet,he can be up 2 sets serving for the match and still end up losing the match or going the distance
He likes faffing about playing half heartedly for long periods at a time while manipulating the crowd to feel sympatheitc towards him when he knows he could have closed the match out way earlier
He has to be the biggest underachiever this past decade

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:37 pm

Nadal will crush the beautiful tennis from either Gasquet or Waw like an elephant in a porcelain cabinet. Something like 6-2 6-2 6-1

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:38 pm

Very true Vee. So typical of him....In fact his best performance was when he was 2 sets and a break down and found himself with nothing else to lose....played his best tennis and went on to win.

Poor Norman ...the crowd cheering must remind him so much of that Guga FO final he played. He was on teh wrong end again.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:39 pm

Richie being admirably courageous atm, not easy!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:40 pm

gallery play wrote:Nadal will crush the beautiful tennis from either Gasquet or Waw like an elephant in a porcelain cabinet. Something like 6-2 6-2 6-1

Funny it's exactly the expression we use with my brother when referring to the Nadal v Federer's matches.

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:42 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:Nadal will crush the beautiful tennis from either Gasquet or Waw like an elephant in a porcelain cabinet. Something like 6-2 6-2 6-1

Funny it's exactly the expression we use with my brother when referring to the Nadal v Federer's matches.

Yeah fitting isn't it? it's a Dutch phrase (maybe stolen from the French)

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:44 pm

I have never been quite too sure whether serving 1st in the 5th set was a distinct advantage.

Now I know it does. If you stuff it up, you can always come back in the return game.

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:45 pm

Gasquet still playing great shots but there's no point for him to progress to the quarters.
Waw at least wil be able to win a few games per set against NAdal

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:45 pm

It's also an English idiom:be like an elephant/bull in a china shop.

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:46 pm

Gasquet.....you just know that once he missed his opportunity (2 points from teh match in teh 3rd set).....it was going to be a long agony all the way to his loss.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:48 pm

2MPs for Stan. Come on Riche, you can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe not.... Cry

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:50 pm

Tenez wrote:Gasquet.....you just know that once he missed his opportunity (2 points from teh match in teh 3rd set).....it was going to be a long agony all the way to his loss.


That was so true it's getting funny

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:54 pm

The all swiss final everyone is waiting for is still on

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:55 pm

At this stage, I'd get a new coach if I were Gasquet, someone who can get into his brain and rearrange a few bits, like make him do 50 push-ups every time he goes over 1m behind the base-line.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:56 pm

gallery play wrote:The all swiss final everyone is waiting for is still on

I'm not dead ...yet! Cool

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Re: Roland Garros 2013: Day 9 03/06/2013

Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:02 pm

BTW: how can Haas beat youzz so extremely easy?

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 pm

I just heard Waw hit more than 90 winners..
That's a lot on clay

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:04 pm

gallery play wrote:BTW: how can Haas beat youzz so extremely easy?

You mean after that marathon match against Isner the other day?

If you were as keen on following Tommy's fitness as you seem to be on Novak's you'd have worked it out a while ago....

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Post by gallery play on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:09 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:BTW: how can Haas beat youzz so extremely easy?

You mean after that marathon match against Isner the other day?

If you were as keen on following Tommy's fitness as you seem to be on Novak's you'd have worked it out a while ago....

no, i think youzz is too good a player to lose with figures like that against Haas

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:19 pm

Tenez wrote:Very true Vee. So typical of him....In fact his best performance was when he was 2 sets and a break down and found himself with nothing else to lose....played his best tennis and went on to win.

Poor Norman ...the crowd cheering must remind him so much of that Guga FO final he played. He was on teh wrong end again.

He strikes me as one of those kinds of people who takes his talent for granted...he knows as well as everyone else that he is easily the most talented player in the draw after Federer and I get the feeling he is one of those kinds of people who loves to hear about how talented his is and how brillaint he can be and loves all the attention that comes with being a "frustrated talent"
I dont get why someone would do something so half heartedly,especially tennis that takes such hard work and dedication
All the other players have a deep passion for the game

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:22 pm

gallery play wrote:BTW: how can Haas beat youzz so extremely easy?

Not sure did not watch. I saw a game at 1 all 1st set and Youz had BP if I remember. Must have been downhill from there.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:23 pm

gallery play wrote:I just heard Waw hit more than 90 winners..
That's a lot on clay

Yes but not that much considering Gasquet was as mobile as a tree in the last 3 sets.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:27 pm

noleisthebest wrote:At this stage, I'd get a new coach if I were Gasquet, someone who can get into his brain and rearrange a few bits, like make him do 50 push-ups every time he goes over 1m behind the base-line.

A coach won't buy him a brain and a heart. He has the shots but stands too far back. He has talent but not talented enough to take the ball earlier....or rather no guts to do so. Had stuck to the baseline like Federer he woudl have developed the timing by now. No grace either, a talented monkey though.

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:27 pm

Veejay wrote:
He strikes me as one of those kinds of people who takes his talent for granted...he knows as well as everyone else that he is easily the most talented player in the draw after Federer and I get the feeling he is one of those kinds of people who loves to hear about how talented his is and how brillaint he can be and loves all the attention that comes with being a "frustrated talent"
I dont get why someone would do something so half heartedly,especially tennis that takes such hard work and dedication
All the other players have a deep passion for the game
He strikes me as one of those who needs to do as he is told. He needs Toni Nadal type of guy as a coach, cut out the frills and get on with it. And I am sure Toni would keep him right-handed and make a wonderful attacker from him.

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:55 pm

I dont think uncle Toni would know how to coach REAL talent
God just imagine that, a shot maker like Gasquest transformed into a 1 dimensional moonballer,
Just when you thought he was the biggest under achiever....

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:07 pm

Veejay wrote:I dont think uncle Toni would know how to coach REAL talent
God just imagine that, a shot maker like Gasquest transformed into a 1 dimensional moonballer,
Just when you thought he was the biggest under achiever....

I disagree. Look what he managed to achieve with talentless Nadal and try to imagine what he would do if he had someone who can strike the ball like Gasquet...




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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:12 pm

Cough, cough... 8/8 in predictions today diva

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:29 pm

Thats all drugs and racket technology,I dont think uncle Toni is someone who has a deep enough understanding of the game,the kind that would develop a talent like Gasquest's to achieve his full potential,
I also seriosuly disagree with his method of coaching,no kid would be able cope with the grip he has on Nadal,not to that extent and certainly not for so long
They will crack under the intense pressure,it only works for them cause he is a family member
Coahcing isnt about ruling with the iron rod,its about teaching someone how to think for themselves,to make someone find that will to want to stive to be the best they can be and then guide them.That comes from within,you cant teach someone anything otherwise
Its clear someone like Federer had great choaches as he could play without one,Nadal cant even go a match with being coahced from the stands

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Post by noleisthebest on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:08 pm

Which tennis player is hiding behind the dark sunglasses?



No, it's not Raonic...




The answer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZIz9aOXeU

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Post by BlueClay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:53 pm

Veejay wrote:I dont think uncle Toni would know how to coach REAL talent
God just imagine that, a shot maker like Gasquest transformed into a 1 dimensional moonballer,
Just when you thought he was the biggest under achiever....

But even more than the talent aspect, the fighting drive is more important and NO coach could ever teach Gasquet that. Nadal has that, Gasquet does not. That is what makes Nadal a great and Gasquet a mug.

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Post by BlueClay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Veejay wrote:I dont think uncle Toni would know how to coach REAL talent
God just imagine that, a shot maker like Gasquest transformed into a 1 dimensional moonballer,
Just when you thought he was the biggest under achiever....

I disagree. Look what he managed to achieve with talentless Nadal and try to imagine what he would do if he had someone who can strike the ball like Gasquet...




Nadal is not talentless. No matter how much you may dislike him saying he is talentless is crazy. He does not have the shot variation or natural talent of a Federer but to say he is untalented is wrong imo and makes Federer look like an idiot, i.e. Federer one of the greatest talents of all time in tennis could not figure out how to beat a talentless pusher on the biggest stages. You are not doing Federer any favours by saying Nadal is talentless.

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Post by BlueClay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:59 pm

Veejay wrote:Thats all drugs and racket technology,I dont think uncle Toni is someone who has a deep enough understanding of the game,the kind that would develop a talent like Gasquest's to achieve his full potential,

Toni does have a deep understanding of the game you are incorrect about that imo and no coach could ever teach Gasquet to achieve his full potential. It is not within Gasquet. You either have it or you don't and that is what separates greats from good players.

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Post by BlueClay on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:02 pm

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noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:BTW: how can Haas beat youzz so extremely easy?

You mean after that marathon match against Isner the other day?

If you were as keen on following Tommy's fitness as you seem to be on Novak's you'd have worked it out a while ago....

no, i think youzz is too good a player to lose with figures like that against Haas

Not really. Youzhny is nothing special imo.

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