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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:19 am

Cool. I'll be watching some hopefully.

Looks like Larry is trying to tell us something but I am afraid I am too busy to respond now.

Good night.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:21 am

Tenez wrote:Cool. I'll be watching some hopefully.

Looks like Larry is trying to tell us something but I am afraid I am too busy to respond now.

Good night.
Me too, I'm completely Larried out for today ...

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Post by wilson_nxt on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:23 am

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:43 am

And that's probably because he uses the wrist a lot...as I always said. He doesn;t hit nearly as flat as people think. Not many do I grant you that but Djoko play with a lot of spin doesn;t mean he goes high over the net.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:18 pm

Tenez wrote:And that's probably because he uses the wrist a lot...as I always said. He doesn;t hit nearly as flat as people think. Not many do I grant you that but Djoko play with a lot of spin doesn;t mean he goes high over the net.

Of course he does. they all do these days. But he hits it flat when in attacking mode, too. I wish and hope he odes it more.
I don't know much about the new racquet and I haven't noticed much difference at all, although his shots appear to be heavier, though and the serve faster, too.

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Seems there will only show Del Potro's and Novak's matches from Miami today. those Yanks really get on my nerves ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 49141995 ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1198964535

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Post by Larry Ellison on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:16 pm

Djokovic only hits with spin when's on the defence on his forehand.
Normally he hits the ball extremely flat.

This is the thing about Djokovic- he seems to be the only player who can dominate in this transition state: where he is neither taking huge risks on the attack, nor on the defence.
He can do this as he has laser like precision and accuracy, what he loses in his shots for pure pace he makes up with the immense angles.

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Post by Larry Ellison on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:16 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Seems there will only show Del Potro's and Novak's matches from Miami today. those Yanks really get on my nerves ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 49141995 ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1198964535
The Miami TD isn't as good as me, in Indian Wells we had far better TV coverage.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:24 pm

Yes Larry. Shame you made it such a slow tournament to help your friend Nadal. You also put pressure on referees to prevent them from fining Nadal for his on-court coaching.

The good news is that though Miami might not have as much coverage, it is still worth 1000 and Nadal is guaranteed to be seeded lower than 4 before the FO.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:34 pm

Larry Ellison wrote:Djokovic only hits with spin when's on the defence on his forehand.
Normally he hits the ball extremely flat.

This is the thing about Djokovic- he seems to be the only player who can dominate in this transition state: where he is neither taking huge risks on the attack, nor on the defence.
He can do this as he has laser like precision and accuracy, what he loses in his shots for pure pace he makes up with the immense angles.
Total nonsense. Stick to sand-digging, Larry.

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Post by Larry Ellison on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:40 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Larry Ellison wrote:Djokovic only hits with spin when's on the defence on his forehand.
Normally he hits the ball extremely flat.

This is the thing about Djokovic- he seems to be the only player who can dominate in this transition state: where he is neither taking huge risks on the attack, nor on the defence.
He can do this as he has laser like precision and accuracy, what he loses in his shots for pure pace he makes up with the immense angles.
Total nonsense. Stick to sand-digging, Larry.
Oh, when else does he hit with topspin then NITB?

I must have missed it when I was collecting sand on the beaches of California.

Looks pretty flat to me: http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Championship+Wimbledon+2009+Day+Three+STTi2QpHRJUl.jpg

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Post by Larry Ellison on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:41 pm

Tenez wrote:Yes Larry. Shame you made it such a slow tournament to help your friend Nadal. You also put pressure on referees to prevent them from fining Nadal for his on-court coaching.

The good news is that though Miami might not have as much coverage, it is still worth 1000 and Nadal is guaranteed to be seeded lower than 4 before the FO.
Being number 4 or number 5 doesn't make a huge difference to Nadal.
They key thing is avoiding Djokovic before the final in the draw.

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Post by Larry Ellison on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:52 pm

Tenez wrote:More than ever, I want him to get beaten by the opposition. I am more interested in his losses than Fed's wins nowadays. Especially since he came back and won.
LOL!

It's these sort of statements which make me believe in your pure objectivity Tenez.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:31 pm

Wow! Blake trounces Bennetteau 6:2. 6:3, Fognini beats Llodra even more convincingly.
Really annoying they are not showing Davydenko Dolgpolov, can't remember last time I saw Dolgo!
Who wants to watch that massive mule Del Potro lumber around playing Kamke ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1198964535

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:38 pm

Dolgo 3:0 already!!! He must be playing well, and I can't see it, Dooool -goooooooooooo ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 3391208243 ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 3391208243 ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 3391208243

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:01 pm

6-2 first set to dolgo smiley
great win for blake Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:35 am

Wowww Delpo was not very keen to get into a fight. Lost 67 1 6.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:47 am

Tenez wrote:Wowww Delpo was not very keen to get into a fight. Lost 67 1 6.
that's amazing!
I was trying to find the score a few hours agoand taht new ATP livescore system is utter rubbish....
why is there no broadcast with Novak Rosol? Is it raining or stg?

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:48 am

It may have been raining as the matches have been delayed. Djoko is not due before 2am here.....

So from me ...good night! Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:49 am

Tenez wrote:It may have been raining as the matches have been delayed. Djoko is not due before 2am here.....

So from me ...good night! ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1071211947

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:49 am

im guessing he is on now after delpo

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:59 am

Did anyone see Delpo match?

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:07 am

Order of play out for tomorrow:

Bellucci-JJ
Tsonga-Troicki
Tomic-Murray
Raonic-Rufin
even
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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:18 am

It's finally dawned on my why there's no Novak-Rosol yet....it's the WTA match spoiling the party again ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1198964535

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:49 am

Miami even managed a power-cut...that's me gone bye-byes ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 3803388186

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:30 am

That was what you call one sound demolition!
Djokovic - Rosol 6:1 6:0

Excellent show from Nole, we did see some thundering returns and forehands from Rosol, reminding us of his finest ever performance and one of the greatest matches in tennis history ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 1071211947

What a difference in crowd, too, Miamians so much nicer and happier than Larrians.
Good to see Novak's parents in the stands after a long time, esp after what they went through last year.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:42 pm

Tennis day in Miami started on time today. Looks like a very hot day, players asking for ice-towels.

Gasquet d. Rochus
Goffin d. Kohlschreiber
Querrey d. Kubot


Troicki serving for the set vs Tsonga. Collossal choke from Troicki. 5 all.
JJ up a brak vs Bellucci
Seppi slogging in the third vs Bedene

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:12 pm

Tomic-Murray & Bollel-Dimitrov started.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:24 pm

Tomic striking ball well, he has a superior forehand, serve even backhand to Murray, his movement and fitness let him down BIG time.
Totally puffed out after a 20 plus shot rally, quickly loses the next two points.

Fitness definitely seems to be a massive advantage and Murray using is to full potential.

Come on A-tomic!!!!!!!!! ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 273093567

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:29 pm

Tomic in the state of complete strop. Two terrible returning games. Utterly despondent.Throwing the match away with both hands. Imagine if poor little Ferrer had his talent...
He won't get far with that attitude, needs to toughen up and fast!

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Post by wilson_nxt on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:35 pm

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:38 pm

wilson_nxt wrote:He doesn't have a superior 1st serve or BH to Murray in my opinion. His FH is good and has that unusual FH sliced motion to fade the ball into the corners. He takes the ball early and moves well for 6'5. To be a top 10 player you have to be a lot fitter than Tomic is. The top10, top 5 partic. are simply good at everything, you dont get to the top of tennis being poor at anything. Tomic needs to sharpen mind and body if he wants to scale the heights but he's still young.

True, but his time is running out fast. He needs a really good, tough coach, and dad out of the picture completely. He has great potential, a bit like Gulbis but in a different way.

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:45 pm

DOn't compare those two! Gulbis is awesome, tomic is a stroppy so and so!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:45 pm

luvsports! wrote:DOn't compare those two! Gulbis is awesome, tomic is a stroppy so and so!

both waste of talent due to lack of grey matter.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:57 pm

I don't have too much hope either, but think he has better chances than Gulbis.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:17 pm

wilson_nxt wrote:He's a maverick like Gulbis which speaks to having a potential for mentally frailty in big moments because he doesn't conform, ie think linearly. Only the truly talented like Agassi could get away with being like that in youth and be top player. Tomic isnt Agassi. All the very best players conform to what's needed to be a slam winner. Agree time is short to make the jump but he'll never be a consistent top 3-4 player, he has potential to win a slam with good coach but don't see him as an event to event dominator.

I think he will easily be a regular top 3 or 4. I don't see him as Gulbis as he seems much more tenacious. He is just a bit young still but in a year or so he will be up there....bar injuries.

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Post by wilson_nxt on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:26 pm

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:39 pm

At first I did not see much talent in him...but he clearly can whip the ball and inject some pace in his shot and he is not bad mouver for a tall guy.....however I think we all agree, his mind needs settling.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:14 pm

..and he could definitely work on that return, too.

Actually his movement isn't that bad, although it could be better, it's more his fitness.
He can really get going and play well when he wants to and so far it has only happened in AO in front of his home crowd for some reason. Shame he can't translate that state of mind outside OZ.
Obviously lacks confidence.
Again, getting rid of dad as a coach could work miracles, even Bartoli managed to cut the umbilical cord recently....

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:25 pm

Wow, Berdych on the way of being knocked out, Gimeno-Taver just won the first set....
In other matches:
Dimitrov through (to play Murray next)
Nieminen, Isner (d. Dodig in ), Bellucci d. JJ (in 3),
Seppi & Youzhny (bt Lu in 3) also through.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:23 pm

Rufin has a terrible serve. He makes a DF every other serve.

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:24 pm

bird a break up in the 3rd.
DOn't count your owls until they are delivered nitb Winking

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:24 pm

And Rao has not a good day serve either. But shoudl be winnin this one comfy.


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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:25 pm

OK, time to watch some tennis, enough of that distracting rubbish... Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:29 pm

Well, at least I know what Ruffin looks like now, I always imagined him to be small and thin like Goffin ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 2211252749

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:36 pm

Berd the face of H&M !!!! I didn't know they were doing sports gear....whatever's next, Murray in M&S? ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 563610107

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Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Berd the face of H&M !!!! I didn't know they were doing sports gear....whatever's next, Murray in M&S? ATP 1000: Miami - Page 2 563610107

Yes I noticed that. Not bad actually except for the logo of course.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:49 pm

order of play out for tomorrow:
Ferer-Fognini
DjokovicDavverman,
Haas-Dolgopolov
Ramos-Blake
Simon-Zemlja
Malisse-Nishikori etc....

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/403/op.pdf

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