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The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

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Re: The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

Post by bogbrush on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:05 pm

legendkillar wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Salbutamol really is just the blue reliever inhaler. If you have asthma then it's part of your life, there's nothing to see there.


That would be the one (Beclomethasone is the brown equivalent), however it can be administered via injection which offers fast relief.

Sounds bonkers, but it can actually be abused in doping terms.
I suppose do but I used it for so long and I know that an injection really isn't practical.

I found a near-cure not in Beclomethasone but in - wait for it - budesonide / formoterol fumarate dihydrate, which I bet would see me banned for life as there's a steroid in there.

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Re: The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

Post by legendkillar on Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:15 pm

bogbrush wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Salbutamol really is just the blue reliever inhaler. If you have asthma then it's part of your life, there's nothing to see there.


That would be the one (Beclomethasone is the brown equivalent), however it can be administered via injection which offers fast relief.

Sounds bonkers, but it can actually be abused in doping terms.
I suppose do but I used it for so long and I know that an injection really isn't practical.

I found a near-cure not in Beclomethasone but in - wait for it - budesonide / formoterol fumarate dihydrate, which I bet would see me banned for life as there's a steroid in there.


Might not be practical, but highly effective though.

Crikey good old Budesonide. I think just about every respiratory medicine has a steroid. Fluticonazole (red one) and my favourite that has the most bonkers name Ipratropium Bromide! What a mouthful that one was.

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Re: The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

Post by legendkillar on Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:48 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/41723971

This is truly the epitome of desperation.

Try and go after the current dopers!!

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Re: The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

Post by Jahu on Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:29 pm

Joke of the decade this.

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Post by Jahu on Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:31 pm

Nice find, I just stashed a years supply on half price Aspirin!!!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:24 am

hehe cheating is everywhere! It's in human nature:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/41851149

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Post by legendkillar on Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:18 pm

Tenez wrote:hehe cheating is everywhere! It's in human nature:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/41851149

And everyone thought WADA had it tough Laugh Laugh

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:13 am

A former French MP sue by the Nadal camp for having suggested he was doping lost her case for diffamation and must pay €10k in compensation.

https://fr.yahoo.com/sports/news/tennis-justice-roselyne-bachelot-condamn%C3%A9e-125900067.html

I am 100% convinced Nadal is clean! cough....cough..

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Post by barrystar on Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:29 am

For my part I am not 100% convinced that any one is clean - I'm pretty sure that it's not possible to devise a drug-testing system that's fool proof, and even if it were no sport has yet done that.  I would also argue that, given the way in which TUE's are used, "clean" is increasingly a technical term which many fans would think is more concerned with form than what they would regard as the true 'substance' of sportsmanship that one hopes dope testing is aimed at.  Wiggins's TUE's do not make him a doper and anyone who says so is foolish and cynical, but I know I speak for many when I say that finding out about the TUE's was disappointing and lowered my estimation of him and his achievements, even though it was clearly within the rules.

The ultimate answer is that we cannot know about anyone for sure.  Too many individuals' earnest protestations have been shown to be untrue, so we have to judge people on the merits - wariness and scepticism are OK in that balance, I'd argue that cynicism is not - you might as well give up following sport.  And the 'merits' weighed up in the balance for any individual's case must include not having failed a drug test (I do remember Lance Armstrong, but there were enough factors which pointed the other way in his case to make the fair-minded suspicious at the very least).

On the above basis I strongly welcome Nadal's win - in my view there is no excuse for stupid remarks like the French MP's; you can't go around making clear positive assertions of cheating without any evidence, especially if you are an MP.  What the MP did is an entirely different thing from expressing doubts and carefully pointing out the basis for your doubts.

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Re: The doping program joke of the ITF!!!

Post by legendkillar on Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:51 am

I did like UKDA kindly sweeping the Wiggins fiasco under the carpet and declaring no further investigation is required!

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