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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:02 pm

He also ups his game in TB. He makes more effort on teh important point. That was particularly obvious when recovering the bp of the TB at 2/3 down I believe.

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Post by Veejay on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:02 pm

I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:05 pm

WTF 2005 final: second set TB
Rome 2006 final: first set TB
Wimbledon 2008 final: fourth set TB
RG 2009 final: second set TB

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:05 pm

Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Not really. Murray's one dimensional energy non-efficient game has a short expiry time.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:08 pm

Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:15 pm

Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Like he stole that break....from 40/0 up Murray.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:18 pm

I knew Murray'd run out of steam after one set. He just isn't built to bash the entire match.

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Post by Veejay on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:19 pm

Tenez wrote:
Veejay wrote:I dont know how Federer won that set...he literally stole it from Murray

Like he stole that break....from 40/0 up Murray.

Exactly..Murray looks like he is completely control one minute and then a few seconds later Federer has completely out foxed him

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:20 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:20 pm

I still think Fed is missing many shots

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:22 pm

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

This is exactly what the commentators on Sky say.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:24 pm

Murray's gone off the boil as they say here.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:25 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

This is exactly what the commentators on Sky say.

I dont have Sky, made it up myself WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:26 pm

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.
The game he is playing is just very artificial, that's the problem. He is building it around hard-hitting with no after-thought and zero finesse. So when he runs out of steam there's nothing to fall back on, his timing goes and with it this fragile self-belief.
He believes more in his fitness (which is deceptive) than forming a weapon and building his game around it.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:29 pm

He is still the best in the world. Djoko needs 3 sets and lots of running to beat Murray.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:30 pm

Tenez wrote:He is still the best in the world. Djoko needs 3 sets and lots of running to beat Murray.

We'll see who the best is tomorrow... Correction! YOU'll see it WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:30 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.

You're so loyal to your man, too loyal imo, sorry

Murray should have won in Shanghai and could have won this week, he's hardly the underdog against Djoko

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Post by summerblues on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:31 pm

Sweet.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:32 pm

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Also his bulked-up physique is only going to show its downside against the very fastest and best-moving players like Nole and Fed.

This physique brought him his first slam..
How i see it: this is typical Murray limping on two different thoughts. His coach pushes him to play more aggressive but it's hard for him to commit to that on a night like this because this match tells him something different. The story of his life: mixed emotions..

The wind did in my opinion.

You're so loyal to your man, too loyal imo, sorry

Murray should have won in Shanghai and could have won this week, he's hardly the underdog against Djoko

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:33 pm

Fed was bound to self destroy tonight, but Murray did

ah well, Fed played a solid second set. He deserved it in the end

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Post by Veejay on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:34 pm

Federer reminding Murray of his place again... Laugh
And we all thought Federer would be mince meat....

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:34 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Murray in 2 comfy sets. 3 and 4 or 3 and 5?

Why comfy?

still haven't answered this one WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 4006036031

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:35 pm

Robbie going for Nole in t 3 tomorrow WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:37 pm

It's looks like the crowd is still very much split between Murray and Fed.

The handshake did not seem very friendly from Andy, did it?

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Post by SayonaRa on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:37 pm

gp, thanks for your notes, but don't give my questions another thought. I think I figured every thing all out myself. WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687

Yesterday was merely a practice session. Like I said, Roger knew he has a bigger fish to fry today, and the biggest fish tomorrow.


Everybody, drinks on me tonight. WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 83870220

PS noley, I can't believe he did better than your prediction.


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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:38 pm

Ruds: "He is the best ever".

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:40 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Murray in 2 comfy sets. 3 and 4 or 3 and 5?

Why comfy?

still haven't answered this one WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 4006036031

Yes I was wrong though I was right for a bit....untill Fed uped his game and Murray self-destroyed.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:40 pm

Tenez wrote:It's looks like the crowd is still very much split between Murray and Fed.

The handshake did not seem very friendly from Andy, did it?
I thought Fed had louder support.
It's going to be tough tomorrow. Noleisthebest against the Rest....They don't know what's in store for them he,he, can't wait WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:40 pm

Andy hit 6 more Ue's than Fed. I think he'll ask Lendl a question or two about this stat

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:42 pm

SR wrote:

PS noley, I can't believe he did better than your prediction.

I don't mind at all, just got the measure of Murray on Wednesday, so not surprised, Fed played well, I knew he wanted to set things straight, and at the end of the day when motivated properly, the better player always wins WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:44 pm

What a glorious match-up worthy of the final tomorrow. Can't have asked for more, both players in similar form and just as hungry as each other.

It's gong to be one fantastic match and I predict Nole to win in 3 sets WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 83870220

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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:47 pm

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C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:47 pm

Hope Fed can play well tomorrow. Djoko returns better than Murray but his BH is hurting less. Djoko's FH is not hurting as much but like Nadal's, it forces his opponent into some running. This is what makes djoko win all those 3 setters and 5 stters.


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Post by summerblues on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:48 pm

This went so much better than I expected. Fed's BH held up quite well today and Murray played quite below par. All in all, it was enough for a comfy victory - but in the opposite direction than I expected.

Now I am even more annoyed that the final is on Monday.

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Post by sphairistike on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:48 pm

Very good match from the Maestro! Bubbly

Here to the best final we could have hoped for! Cheers

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:50 pm

kudos nitb for the correct prediction.
why did we ever doubt him haha

GETTTT IN FEDS WAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Big Grin

SOOO HAPPY!!!
victory dance time again Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:53 pm

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

Oh stop it GP!!!!!


It's not fair of you to try and muddle me up WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 2998105013.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:53 pm

luvsports! wrote:kudos nitb for the correct prediction.
why did we ever doubt him haha

GETTTT IN FEDS WAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687

SOOO HAPPY!!!
victory dance time again WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687
I'm happy you are ALL happy WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:56 pm

sphairistike wrote:Very good match from the Maestro! WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 83870220

Here to the best final we could have hoped for! WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 3885497126

Absolutely, Fed's magic against Nole's belief....NO PASARAN WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 83870220!

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:58 pm

time to put my favorite song of all time on.

BABA O'RILEY!!!!! Big Grin WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:58 pm

summerblues wrote:This went so much better than I expected. Fed's BH held up quite well today and Murray played quite below par. All in all, it was enough for a comfy victory - but in the opposite direction than I expected.

Now I am even more annoyed that the final is on Monday.

It's 8 PM UK time, so all you need to do is have a very looooooooong lunch break....you know....the French style WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 123628122

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:00 pm

luvsports! wrote:time to put my favorite song of all time on.

BABA O'RILEY!!!!! WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687 WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I take it your dad taught you a thing or two......

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:01 pm

he brought me up on the BOSSS

but no that came from rediscovering the bugs life trailor back when i was a weee nipper Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:02 pm

Tenez wrote:Hope Fed can play well tomorrow. Djoko returns better than Murray but his BH is hurting less. Djoko's FH is not hurting as much but like Nadal's, it forces his opponent into some running. This is what makes djoko win all those 3 setters and 5 stters.

Nole won't wither and give up like Murray. He'll put up a first class fight to the end. It will be a real battle of wills. Tennis at its best.
Fed's pacy arsenal vs Nole's defending & aggressive grit.

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:03 pm

the magic wand vs brutal dominance

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:03 pm

luvsports! wrote:he brought me up on the BOSSS

but no that came from rediscovering the bugs life trailor back when i was a weee nipper WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 364988687
Say a big hello to your dad, they played Boss in O2 last night (Dancing in the dark), I hope I hear it tomorrow, it would just make my night complete!


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Post by gallery play on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:04 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:

C'mon GP, cut me some slack....

I will, but remember Nole won't read your comments so you can be real honest here WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

Oh stop it GP!!!!!


It's not fair of you to try and muddle me up WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 2998105013.

ah, i know you can handle it nitb WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1101037640
you'll have the last last laugh tomorrow, i think..

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:06 pm

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ah, i know you can handle it nitb WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1101037640
you'll have the last last laugh tomorrow, i think..

It's harder than you think, but I can't say more WORLD TOUR FINALS 2012, London - Page 11 1071211947

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:07 pm

luvsports! wrote:the magic wand vs brutal dominance

For your dad and a few others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=129kuDCQtHs

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:09 pm

HAHA!!! LUV IT! Flying High

deffo in my top 10 bruce Big Grin

enjoy it 2mo bud whatever the result! Hug

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