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Screech is back - and not a moment too soon

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Screech is back - and not a moment too soon

Post by Emancipator on Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:45 pm

I think you'll all join me in a collective - 'thank f**k for that'.

By the skin of his teeth Screech has stopped Nadal from number 18.

Everything was on the line: GOAThood, humanity, Daniel's sanity (poetic license on that one), mass board suicide.. but thankfully Screech (oh we love you, you skinny, bendy, previously unloved by the masses Screechy fella) had his spinach on time and popeyed in front of our eyes. 

Let us rejoice,


Hallelujah, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalellujah

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Post by bogbrush on Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm

The return of screech perhaps heralds the closure of Federer and Nadals nice little 6-Slam run. If so, perhaps history will look upon that elbow as both letting the other two add substantially to their runs and taking the Slam record away from Djokovic.

I don’t know but it’s a good line!

What I do certainly think is this puts a bit fat spoke in the wheel of Nadal having automatic French Opens to bolster his tally. He looked desperately tired during that 5th set.

Oh if only Federer had converted that match point!! He’d fancy playing a tired Djokovic tomorrow Sad


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Post by Jahu on Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm

Hahah nasty.

Socal can still go pick dates...

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Post by Daniel on Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:04 pm

Djokovic blew so many opportunities on points - probably due to nerves knowing he's been away from  slam final so long.  But when it mattered... he pulled it together.

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Post by barrystar on Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:08 pm

Odds are Djokovic will have a mental advantage for their next few encounters. When a player can get under Nadal’s skin it’s interesting how edgy he looks.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:15 pm

He was shitting it towards the end.  I saw it on his face.  The bluff was gone. He knew that the end was getting nearer and he almost got away with it too when he went 40-15 on Djok's serve.  That hold at 7-7?  It was crucial.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth on Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Appreciate his services to tennis, when he was on top it would've been easier to accept him overtaking Fed than Nadal overtaking. Would have been nice if he could've got it together sooner and given Nadal a match at the French.

Anyhow all the best for a 4th title, kind of hope he gets it as he gets overlooked too much.

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Post by Emancipator on Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:13 pm

That was a fantastic match with some amazing tennis.

The curfew ensured that both played very aggressively.

The best best of five match in a long long time which just shows how far below the top 3 the rest of the field are (Murray at his best and Stan in Stanimal mode being the only exceptions)

Can anyone imagine Thiem and Zverev or Kyrgios playing a match of that calibre and intensity? The notion, fervently peddled by some on here, that each successive generation is always better is patent nonsense. We are unlikely to see players of this calibre for a long time.

Also makes nonsense of the claim that Nadal somehow only wins when everything is in his favour. Playing on his worst surface and indoors and after a nearly 5 hour match against Delpo he looked the better player after the first set. I'm glad he lost but he deserves plaudits for his awesome tennis - some of those DTL FH's were just crazy.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:16 pm

Emancipator wrote:I think you'll all join me in a collective - 'thank f**k for that'.

By the skin of his teeth Screech has stopped Nadal from number 18.

Everything was on the line: GOAThood, humanity, Daniel's sanity (poetic license on that one), mass board suicide.. but thankfully Screech (oh we love you, you skinny, bendy, previously unloved by the masses Screechy fella) had his spinach on time and popeyed in front of our eyes. 

Let us rejoice,


Hallelujah, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalellujah

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Yes, Screech is back and give him some true looooooooveeee! love


And don't forget it's not easy to be a Screech! Winking


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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:22 pm

bogbrush wrote:The return of screech perhaps heralds the closure of Federer and Nadals nice little 6-Slam run. If so, perhaps history will look upon that elbow as both letting the other two add substantially to their runs and taking the Slam record away from Djokovic.

I don’t know but it’s a good line!

What I do certainly think is this puts a bit fat spoke in the wheel of Nadal having automatic French Opens to bolster his tally. He looked desperately tired during that 5th set.

Oh if only Federer had converted that match point!! He’d fancy playing a tired Djokovic tomorrow Sad

In the balance of things, Nole was due his hiatus and his return, just like Fed and Nadal. It just dawned on me while I was watching the match.

I loved Fed's comeback....AO17 was out of this world on all levels.

I can't say I have any such emotions for Nadal...but without him Fed's comeback would not have been complete and right.

It's almost as if someone's scripted it.

I have been seeing Nole as the one chosen to stop Nadal for many years. Right from that "Nadal is beatable" clip.

And that is a valiant and magnificent role which he has been fulfilling so well over the years.

I genuinely thought AO 12 was it but  no....Nadal was due his big comeback, too.


All in all, all's well that ends well. Magic

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:11 pm

Sadly I won't be joining you in a thank f*ck relief for Djokovic downing Nadal. 

I don't see the importance of this result should be "oh it preserves Federer's Slam record" more it should be "Great result for Djokovic given the struggles of the last 24 months" 

Now I know many here were probably wearing a black armband on Thursday after Federer's defeat, but life in the tennis world goes on. 

So glad to see Djokovic with renewed fire and purpose. 12 months ago he would've been looking around the court in confusion and bewilderment and seemingly questioning himself why is he even on a tennis court. 

Great result for Djokovic given the last 2 defeats on Clay he had to Nadal during his struggles.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:14 pm

Nole downing Nadal is not only preservation of Federer’s record but also dignity of tennis.

I oersonally would love Nole to overtake Nadal in slams, not sure if that’s possible any more.

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:17 pm

I don't know about that. The US Open is going to be fascinating as 2 has become 3 essentially. You have to think if Djokovic cleans up today and the US Open, Nadal would be somewhat twitchy. Nadal may well be an anchor at RG, but Djokovic could reassert similarly for the AO and Wimbledon.

Not said and done yet. smiley

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:17 pm

You just watch draw for Nole and Nadal at USO....

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:22 pm

I don't think the draw will faze Djokovic if his tail is up again....

Not sure Nadal would fancy Federer on a HC let alone Djokovic. 

Where would Djokovic be ranked if he won Wim and a US Masters?

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Post by Slippy on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:29 pm

He will be 10th if wins today, right on the heels of a couple of players ahead of him but still 2,000 off 4th. Smart money would be on him being top 8 but no higher by the US.

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:37 pm

So QF would be earliest he could meet one of Nadal or Federer. 

Makes it interesting.

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Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:40 pm

Oh and just in case you got the wrong idea...















Come on Anderson  Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:44 pm

legendkillar wrote:I don't think the draw will faze Djokovic if his tail is up again....
Not sure Nadal would fancy Federer on a HC let alone Djokovic. 
Where would Djokovic be ranked if he won Wim and a US Masters?
Draw is everything in the final rounds of a slam.

Esp if you have to play Nadal...being as fresh as possible is a must.
And even more so that they are all in their thirties now.

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:47 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
legendkillar wrote:I don't think the draw will faze Djokovic if his tail is up again....
Not sure Nadal would fancy Federer on a HC let alone Djokovic. 
Where would Djokovic be ranked if he won Wim and a US Masters?
Draw is everything in the final rounds of a slam.

Esp if you have to play Nadal...being as fresh as possible is a must.
And even more so that they are all in their thirties now.

It is, but he has come up short at Wimbledon like he did at the AO. 

If he was really favoured to the extent many believe, that roof yesterday would've been opened and not closed.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:53 pm

legendkillar wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
legendkillar wrote:I don't think the draw will faze Djokovic if his tail is up again....
Not sure Nadal would fancy Federer on a HC let alone Djokovic. 
Where would Djokovic be ranked if he won Wim and a US Masters?
Draw is everything in the final rounds of a slam.

Esp if you have to play Nadal...being as fresh as possible is a must.
And even more so that they are all in their thirties now.

It is, but he has come up short at Wimbledon like he did at the AO. 

If he was really favoured to the extent many believe, that roof yesterday would've been opened and not closed.

I and probably GP too didn’t know about the rule that players have to agree on how they wish to continue the match (if it started with the roof on).

Nole obviously wanted to eliminate wind and heat as much as possible so he chose the roof to remain on.

If it wasn’t for that rule, you bet they’d have it open.

The rule makes sense, similar to wanting to continue to olay on the same court.

I am also confident Nadal Nije lobby pushed Fed to C1 vs Kev.
They did it to Nole too...not just with Kev but all fast servers - Querrey, Cilic...

I don’t know why people find it so dofficult to accept that tennis is a big business and that those who run it try to maximise the profit.



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Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:59 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
legendkillar wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
legendkillar wrote:I don't think the draw will faze Djokovic if his tail is up again....
Not sure Nadal would fancy Federer on a HC let alone Djokovic. 
Where would Djokovic be ranked if he won Wim and a US Masters?
Draw is everything in the final rounds of a slam.

Esp if you have to play Nadal...being as fresh as possible is a must.
And even more so that they are all in their thirties now.

It is, but he has come up short at Wimbledon like he did at the AO. 

If he was really favoured to the extent many believe, that roof yesterday would've been opened and not closed.

I and probably GP too didn’t know about the rule that players have to agree on how they wish to continue the match (if it started with the roof on).

Nole obviously wanted to eliminate wind and heat as much as possible so he chose the roof to remain on.

If it wasn’t for that rule, you bet they’d have it open.

The rule makes sense, similar to wanting to continue to olay on the same court.

I am also confident Nadal Nije  lobby pushed Fed to C1 vs Kev.
They did it to Nole too...not just with Kev but all fast servers - Querrey, Cilic...

I don’t know why people find it so dofficult to accept that tennis is a big business and that those who run it try to maximise the profit.



The fact remains that Nadal didn't get his way when he wanted the roof opened. So he isn't blessed with the high levels of influence. Nole wanted CC and got it and wanted the roof closed and got it. Seems to me he got his way more than anyone this tournament on the key issues. 

I don't know why some find it difficult to accept that Nadal isn't 'the biggest name' in tennis and not the biggest draw for sponsors or viewers alike. Federer holds that mantle for sure.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:58 pm

No, the fact is it was Wimbledon rule to continue the match under the same conditions it started.

Just like it’s Wimbledon rule to have defending men’s champion open the tournament.

And nobody can change those. Not even Nadal.

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Post by legendkillar on Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:18 pm

legendkillar wrote:I don't know about that. The US Open is going to be fascinating as 2 has become 3 essentially. You have to think if Djokovic cleans up today and the US Open, Nadal would be somewhat twitchy. Nadal may well be an anchor at RG, but Djokovic could reassert similarly for the AO and Wimbledon.

Not said and done yet. smiley

Well, didn't want to re-open the GOAT debate, however I remember making this comment and now looking back I am thinking if Djokovic reaches 14, he is then in 3 of Nadal and in my mind closer to chasing that total than Nadal would be to Federer's 20.

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:02 pm

The imbalance of Slams matters to my mind. If screech gets to the same number as Rafa I give him the edge because Rafa really is RG ownership, plus some others.

In the same way I give Fed the edge if he & Nadal tied at 20.

The challenge will be if Djokovic & Federer end up tied at the top. It’d be hard to split them in that case, probably the tie would go to Djokovic for winning so many in the face of competition from the other two, plus the 4 in a row.

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Post by Daniel on Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:19 pm

Fed has far more of an edge than Nadal because he's steaming him in 4 of the 5 biggest tournaments.  Likewise, Djokovic is a better all rounder than Nadal is already.

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Post by barrystar on Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:17 am

Almost 16 years and 64 slams ago Sampras got to 14.  If you'd have told him that within the next 64 slams his tally would have been exceeded by two players and matched by a third who, between them, would have 51 slams he'd never have believed you.  The homogenisation of conditions has made a contribution, but these are three astonishing players.

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Post by luvsports! on Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:01 am

Great stat!

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Post by Daniel on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:44 pm

It's not just a contribution - it's a major factor. The biggest.

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