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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:10 pm

summerblues wrote:NBC commentators were also just talking about Nadal's time between points - they were talking very positively about the shot clock.  They said that Rafa always takes long but when the match gets tight, he takes even longer.
talk is cheap...

while they are talking and killing themselves worrying, Nadal is creaming slams.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:11 pm

Terrible game.

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Post by naxroy on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:12 pm

as with delpotro, first set seemed to be dominated by thiem, but in the important moment, nadal prevailed


nadal better with his serve than in previos matches

thiem, shall not surrender now, he must put preassure in nadal in this second set

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Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:12 pm

lol

straight sets it is

this is the french open for you

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:12 pm

summerblues wrote:Terrible game.
I told you that was the point on which the match turned.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:13 pm

noleisthebest wrote:talk is cheap...
They are commentators.  Talk is all they are supposed to do.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:13 pm

naxroy wrote:as with delpotro, first set seemed to be dominated by thiem, but in the important moment, nadal prevailed


nadal better with his serve than in previos matches

thiem, shall not surrender now, he must put preassure in nadal in this second set
Laugh

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:14 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:talk is cheap...
They are commentators.  Talk is all they are supposed to do.
They should've started talking about time between the points 10 years ago.
That's why it's cheap now. It doesn't change anything. They are allowed to talk now.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:15 pm

Nadal goes off court, comes back, Ref says TIME and NAdal sits down...

What a jerk

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:16 pm

noleisthebest wrote:They should've started talking about time between the points 10 years ago.
Why?

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:17 pm

I think the match is over. Thiem is full of doubts now

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:18 pm

Thiem is not very smart....and Nadal is as smart as Toni allows him to be.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:18 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:They should've started talking about time between the points 10 years ago.
Why?
Because it could've made a difference then.
Tennis would have not gone into this stupid physical direction.

Nadal was allowed to raise the physical bar and it ruined tennis.


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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:18 pm

gallery play wrote:I think the match is over. Thiem is full of doubts now
You may be right.  It would not be the first time he gives up in a match that is not going his way.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:19 pm

gallery play wrote:I think the match is over. Thiem is full of doubts now
I gave him a set and a half...generously.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:20 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Because it could've made a difference then.
But they are not here to make a difference.  They are paid to advertise the product.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:23 pm

gallery play wrote:The problem with Thiem is: he's too much of a claycourter. He lacks flat shots, netplay and variety.
and not even a real/classic claycourter...he does not enjoy grinding and grafting...but that's probably because he is a SBH-er

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:23 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Because it could've made a difference then.
But they are not here to make a difference.  They are paid to advertise the product.

Maybe in America and UK

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:26 pm

Thiem is soooo riled up by Nadal, I think he's going to combust if he loses this game.


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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:27 pm

Amazing how all framed balls from Nadal land in.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:28 pm

It's a very simple story: No Double handed BH.....no win versus nadal!

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:30 pm

No stream for me anymore.  It is just as well.  I think I will skip sports bar too unless Thiem looks like he is turning it around Sad

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:31 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Because it could've made a difference then.
But they are not here to make a difference.  They are paid to advertise the product.

Maybe in America and UK
So?

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:31 pm

This is where Thiem shows how 1d he is...no plan B at all.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:32 pm

summerblues wrote:No stream for me anymore.  It is just as well.  I think I will skip sports bar too unless Thiem looks like he is turning it around Sad
Yeah...NBC were not taking too much risk...30mn versus Nadal, that's about 2 games!

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:33 pm

Tenez wrote:It's a very simple story: No Double handed BH.....no win versus nadal!
Yes.  It is just impossible to keep the pressure on Rafa from that wing.  SHBH needs to either go for a kill outright (but that is a suicide vs Rafa on clay) or it will allow Rafa to take over.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:33 pm

Tenez wrote:
summerblues wrote:No stream for me anymore.  It is just as well.  I think I will skip sports bar too unless Thiem looks like he is turning it around Sad
Yeah...NBC were not taking too much risk...30mn versus Nadal, that's about 2 games!
LOL.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:34 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Because it could've made a difference then.
But they are not here to make a difference.  They are paid to advertise the product.

Maybe in America and UK
So?

well in the rest of the world they just talk and comment on matches as they should, not to advertise the product.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:39 pm

LS needs to make his name and write an article about Nadal's time between the points.

I wonder how far he could get with it.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:41 pm

noleisthebest wrote:well in the rest of the world they just talk and comment on matches as they should, not to advertise the product.
That is not my experience.  But even if they did, so what?

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:42 pm

Only scoreboard watching now. Don't know what is worse. Seeing how the scores are slowly but surely adding up in Rafa's favor, or seeing it happening on the court.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:43 pm

summerblues wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:well in the rest of the world they just talk and comment on matches as they should, not to advertise the product.
That is not my experience.  But even if they did, so what?
go shopping, SB.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:43 pm

summerblues wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's a very simple story: No Double handed BH.....no win versus nadal!
Yes.  It is just impossible to keep the pressure on Rafa from that wing.  SHBH needs to either go for a kill outright (but that is a suicide vs Rafa on clay) or it will allow Rafa to take over.

And this why Zverevwoudl have been a better opponent!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:45 pm

Tenez wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's a very simple story: No Double handed BH.....no win versus nadal!
Yes.  It is just impossible to keep the pressure on Rafa from that wing.  SHBH needs to either go for a kill outright (but that is a suicide vs Rafa on clay) or it will allow Rafa to take over.

And this why Zverevwoudl have been a better opponent!
I don't think so. The only one that can handle Nadal easily is still Nole.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:47 pm

Tenez wrote:And this why Zverevwoudl have been a better opponent!
Agree 100%.  I think most of us were saying it all along here.  But he cannot get here in the first place.

It is all just very sad all around.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:48 pm

Amazing to see Thiem not puffed out at all after that gruelling rally!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:51 pm

Wow, time violation

Why now? Laugh

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:54 pm

Nadal's tiring means less spin, less pace hence less UEs from Thiem's BH!

Nadal is now forced to shorten the points...hence the drop shots!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:55 pm

I still think this match is not over yet.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:56 pm

but it is all down whether Thiem knows Nadal is tired!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:56 pm

What did Nadal just spit out to the umpire about time violation as he walked past him?

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:57 pm

Tenez wrote:but it is all down whether Thiem knows Nadal is tired!
I thought he was in on the bluffing game...

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:58 pm

After all this is all only one break of serve however bad it looks (2:5)
well, that's how I'd see it. Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm

Nadal is taking the piss....half an hour between the serves.

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Post by summerblues on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:06 pm

Last year the score in their match was 6:3 6:4 6:0.  Could be quite similar this year.  I am not bothering to go watch it live unless Thiem takes the next two sets.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:15 pm

I will watch till the end.

because this is going to be Nadal's last slam.
Bet365 will kindly put me out of misery by cutting the stream straight after the last point....


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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:15 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I will watch till the end.

because this is going to be Nadal's last slam.

Agree!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:19 pm

Though I thought last was too. And Frankly is the USO is as slow as last year...it's 2 FOs per year for Nadal!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:22 pm

Nadal is tired.....but Thiem seems even more.!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:24 pm

Thiems on 50% more winners than Nadal.....but hey does it matter on clay?

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