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When Idiots Get The Power!

Post by noleisthebest on Sat May 26, 2018 4:46 pm

No, not the president, but his daughter and whoTH is she!!!? to stick her nose into a hundred year old tradition...



This is ridiculous," Ivanka Trump wrote on Twitter. "@SerenaWilliams is a formidable athlete (best ever!) and loving new mother.
"No person should ever be penalized professionally for having a child! The #WTA should change this rule immediately. #French


https://www.sport24.co.za/Tennis/FrenchOpen/ivanka-trump-slams-serena-seeding-snub-at-french-open-20180524

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Post by Tenez on Sat May 26, 2018 6:08 pm

She is blonde.

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Post by naxroy on Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm

as much as I dislike Trum and his circle
Ivanka is right in this matter

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Post by summerblues on Sat May 26, 2018 10:27 pm

I don't think it is such a crazy idea as long as it is not applied retroactively. That is, it should obviously not be applied to Serena. But if they make the change now and apply it to future cases, why not?

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Post by summerblues on Sat May 26, 2018 10:29 pm

naxroy wrote:as much as I dislike Trum[p]
Why dislike him? Sad

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Post by naxroy on Sat May 26, 2018 10:31 pm

I dislike certain politicians instead of certain tennis players, call me crazy

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Post by summerblues on Sat May 26, 2018 10:42 pm

naxroy wrote:I dislike certain politicians instead of certain tennis players, call me crazy
Nothing wrong with either.  smiley

I was just wondering why.  I know why I dislike Rafa - I just hate his style of play.  Never been fan of clay courters - Borg, Wilander, Bruguera, etc.  And Rafa's game is as clay court as it gets.  I do not care about the guy himself one way or another.

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Post by naxroy on Sat May 26, 2018 10:50 pm

I dislike trump´s politics regarding civil rights, inmigration, enviroment and international diplomacy

but this is not a politics forum and didnt want to start a debate on that

the point is I think Ivanka is right in her tweet about serena

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Post by Tenez on Sat May 26, 2018 11:04 pm

What I find funny and extremely hypocritical is that there is no lack of courage when one criticises what the media tell us to criticise: Trump, Putin, Kim-Jung, etc...

But there is a guy and his country who can kill 60 harmless demonstrators, including children and babies, injuring 1000s more ....and no one dare criticising it.

In that respect  I can;t care less about Serena's right and more so of what Ivanka thinks of it.

Just saying! Let's get back to tennis!


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Post by naxroy on Sat May 26, 2018 11:07 pm

if you are talking about israel, everybody criticises it, at least here in spain

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Re: When Idiots Get The Power!

Post by DEC1M7 on Sat May 26, 2018 11:53 pm

summerblues wrote:
naxroy wrote:as much as I dislike Trum[p]
Why dislike him? Sad
You're a fan Summerblues?

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Post by Jahu on Sun May 27, 2018 12:44 am

Ivanka is wrong, players can give birth anytime they like, sport is sport, no reserved ranking cause you want a baby.

Ivanka can also one-night-stand-me, obviously.


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Post by Slippy on Sun May 27, 2018 12:51 am

naxroy wrote:I dislike trump´s politics regarding civil rights, inmigration, enviroment and international diplomacy

but this is not a politics forum and didnt want to start a debate on that

the point is I think Ivanka is right in her tweet about serena
So should Andy be seeded 1 when he returns from injury? Should Novak be seeded 2 because he was number 2 when he got injured? What about Nishikori, Raonic or Wawrinka? How many seeds should we have?

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 27, 2018 1:16 am

DECIMA wrote:
summerblues wrote:
naxroy wrote:as much as I dislike Trum[p]
Why dislike him? Sad
You're a fan Summerblues?
Bigly.

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Post by summerblues on Sun May 27, 2018 1:19 am

Slippy wrote:So should Andy be seeded 1 when he returns from injury? Should Novak be seeded 2 because he was number 2 when he got injured? What about Nishikori, Raonic or Wawrinka? How many seeds should we have?
Pleyers get protected ranking for entry but not for seeding.  The whole thing strikes me as somewhat arbitrary.  I do not really see any of it as particularly right or wrong, as long as no special treatment is given to anyone.  I.e., cannot say: "oh Serena is so good we should make an exception for her", but I would have no problem with saying "thinking about it now, we will change the rule for future cases".

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun May 27, 2018 8:45 am

Why bother about what she thinks. Without her father, she has NO credentials of her own.

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Post by Slippy on Sun May 27, 2018 9:46 am

summerblues wrote:
Slippy wrote:So should Andy be seeded 1 when he returns from injury? Should Novak be seeded 2 because he was number 2 when he got injured? What about Nishikori, Raonic or Wawrinka? How many seeds should we have?
Pleyers get protected ranking for entry but not for seeding.  The whole thing strikes me as somewhat arbitrary.  I do not really see any of it as particularly right or wrong, as long as no special treatment is given to anyone.  I.e., cannot say: "oh Serena is so good we should make an exception for her", but I would have no problem with saying "thinking about it now, we will change the rule for future cases".
Yes, I know what the rule is. My point was that there shouldn’t be an exception for someone returning after having a baby. Either change the whole rule or not at all. 

Personally, I wouldn’t change the rule. The options would either be to give tournament directors complete discretion on where to seed returning players or seed them jointly based on whatever their ranking was when they were injured. The first seems to me to have the potential for bias and the second could easily end up with players being well out of position based on their level upon return. The reality is that if Serena is still the number 1 player in the world she will swiftly get herself back into the top 10.

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Re: When Idiots Get The Power!

Post by bogbrush on Sun May 27, 2018 10:32 am

naxroy wrote:as much as I dislike Trum and his circle
Ivanka is right in this matter
As much as I support the direction Trump has set for American foreign and some domestic policy, she is wrong in this.

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Re: When Idiots Get The Power!

Post by DEC1M7 on Sun May 27, 2018 2:10 pm

summerblues wrote:
DECIMA wrote:
summerblues wrote:
naxroy wrote:as much as I dislike Trum[p]
Why dislike him? Sad
You're a fan Summerblues?
Bigly.
Thought so  Winking

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