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ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:31 pm

9.30 UK time

DJOKOVIC - MURRAY


No beating about the bush: Nole in straights.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:16 pm

Looks like this is being played 4:30am my time Sad. If I just happen to wake up I may drag myself out of bed to watch but that time is just too harsh for me. I remember when WTF was played in Shanghai, it was always borderline for me whether or not to wake up.

Too bad, it could be very interesting. Andy has been the man of the last few months and Nole has been improving also since after the Olympics.

I go with Andy but could be wrong. Will be happy with whoever wins.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:23 pm

summerblues wrote:Looks like this is being played 4:30am my time . If I just happen to wake up I may drag myself out of bed to watch but that time is just too harsh for me. I remember when WTF was played in Shanghai, it was always borderline for me whether or not to wake up.

Too bad, it could be very interesting. Andy has been the man of the last few months and Nole has been improving also since after the Olympics.

I go with Andy but could be wrong. Will be happy with whoever wins.

I'd get up if it was a slam final for Nole Murray, not for Shanghai Masters. I would if Nole played Fed, though.

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Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:29 pm

Summerblues- have just written a piece on Federer.
Do you want to have a look at it?

It's a tad negative on him, so I'm asking you first before sending it to you.

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Post by laverfan on Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:17 pm

It should be a good final. Both Federer and Berdych were too tense as evidenced by the discussions with the chair umpires. Even Goodall/Koenig mentioned it. It will be long lung-buster though.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:00 pm

Finally .. able to login into ourtennisforum. For some reasons it wasn't opening at all for me.

For a second I even thought this forum got shut down by ATP/ITF/Nadal camp .

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:03 pm

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:

For a second I even thought this forum got shut down by ATP/ITF/Nadal camp .

Big Grin

No, Uncle Toni confirmed it can stay for a while, as long as I am posting Big Grin

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:07 pm

Thank you Amritia, we love your presence. Hug

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Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:07 pm

Cool


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Post by Tenez on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:08 pm

Djoko is going to win that one. I am pretty confident.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:08 pm

I think Djokovic will steamroll Murray tomorrow.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:18 pm

Nole looked very focused and determined ever since Beijing (btw, there is someone from Beijing reading what we are writing here )
His service motion has changed a tiny bit, he is throwing himself more into it now and relying less on the shoulder, looks more natural and fluid, although still a worked shot, he's done well with it.
I know he's always wanted to model his serve on Sampras's, but Pete's one was very, very natural and instinctiive.

I haven't seen much of Nole's match today, but would like to believe he started utilising his forehand a bit as that would be a desirable explanation (to me) for the 5:1 lead.
The quicker the confidence returns, the sooner he'll go back to his 2011 forehand ways.

I don't look forward to tomorrow's workman's tennis and shovelling forehands.
I hope Nole makes quick work of it and does not indulge Murray in any "bruising" stuff.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:52 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I'd get up if it was a slam final for Nole Murray, not for Shanghai Masters. I would if Nole played Fed, though.

It works very similar for me (from Fed's perspective, of course). For a Masters, Fed vs Nadal and these days maybe Fed vs Nole I would probably get up for, but otherwise not likely.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:53 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:Summerblues- have just written a piece on Federer.
Do you want to have a look at it?

It's a tad negative on him, so I'm asking you first before sending it to you.

Sure, fire away. I would like to believe I am a good sport and can handle it.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:55 pm

Tenez wrote:Djoko is going to win that one. I am pretty confident.

What makes you so sure? Have not seen much tennis these last two weeks but going by scores Djoko must be playing quite well. Still, I thought Andy looked all right today. I would at least expect him to have a chance.

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:04 pm

Rotla,
which browser are you using?

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Post by legendkillar on Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:45 pm

Murray in 2 for me.

Returning to well.

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Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:33 pm

summerblues wrote:
Amritia3ee wrote:Summerblues- have just written a piece on Federer.
Do you want to have a look at it?

It's a tad negative on him, so I'm asking you first before sending it to you.

Sure, fire away. I would like to believe I am a good sport and can handle it.
Alright then, I have your permission. Cool
Will PM it.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:58 am

summerblues wrote:
Tenez wrote:Djoko is going to win that one. I am pretty confident.

What makes you so sure? Have not seen much tennis these last two weeks but going by scores Djoko must be playing quite well. Still, I thought Andy looked all right today. I would at least expect him to have a chance.

He sure will have a chance. He matches up well for Djokovic. I saw both semis, and Murray's QF match as well. Djokovic was very sharp. Murray sure is a different challenge, but in case when both are playing well, I'll have to go with Djokovic to win it.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:35 am

GO NOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:41 am

Its about to start. My take, its going to be a little let down in terms of tennis quality.


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:47 am

Good start from Nole Now break him!

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Re: ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:54 am

It's not even 1 game all they are both breathing heavily.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:56 am

And break Nole does

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 am

Tenez wrote:It's not even 1 game all they are both breathing heavily.

not they, HE!

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:01 am

exchange of breaks. Long tiring rallys.. tennis with drama.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:01 am

OK, break him AGAIN !

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:03 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:exchange of breaks. Long tiring rallys.. tennis with drama.
thb, a pain of tennis, I can watch it for about half an hour to an hour max, gets really repetitive and bland with all those safe shots. Nole's first serve needs to go up for him to start being more aggressive. Should be stepping more into the court but difficult with Murray painting the lines today.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:07 am

They both match up well to each other. Repetitive, yes. This match is an important one for both players.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:09 am

Match being played on Murray's terms at the moment, come on Noleeeeee guts on

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:12 am

OMG!! what a miss from Djo.. Murray gave up and Djo completely took his eyes off the ball.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:13 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:OMG!! what a miss from Djo.. Murray gave up and Djo completely took his eyes off the ball.

great tennis, innit?

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:13 am

Murray's anticipation is brilliant off late. It was good earlier too. He does lot of studying of the video-tapes.


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Re: ATP Masters 1000: SHANGHAI, THE FINAL

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:14 am

Djokovic broken. Murray is looking very confident.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:16 am

Nole fuming. Enough of baseline lullaby Nole

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:16 am

I believe there are going to be a lot of breaks in this match.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Djokovic broken. Murray is looking very confident.
Yes, but that's where Djokovic steps in and shows him he's better.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:20 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Djokovic broken. Murray is looking very confident.
And Djoko nervous.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:20 am

noleisthebest wrote:
raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Djokovic broken. Murray is looking very confident.
Yes, but that's where Djokovic steps in and shows him he's better.

Alright.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:21 am

What's frustrating is that the rallies are relatively slow and the ball is hardly getting close to the lines.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:22 am

Tenez wrote:What's frustrating is that the rallies are relatively slow and the ball is hardly getting close to the lines.
the onus is on Nole to change things. Difficult but not impossible.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:23 am

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:24 am

Both breaking the time rule:

Murray 32s
Djoko 29s

That's an average!!! It mans it goes ovr those time on a few occasions!

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:25 am

Time taken between points.. its just 5 games.. Murray: 32 sec, Djo: 29 seconds. Murray was quick earlier.. changed it to Nadal's way from Miami 2012.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:25 am

Tenez wrote:Both breaking the time rule:

Murray 32s
Djoko 29s

That's an average!!! It mans it goes ovr those time on a few occasions!

smiley . you were quicker.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:26 am

6 games and 4 breaks of serve. Looks like its going to go the way I was hoping it would.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:26 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:What's frustrating is that the rallies are relatively slow and the ball is hardly getting close to the lines.
the onus is on Nole to change things. Difficult but not impossible.
Djoko getting a bit of his own medecine then.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:29 am

Ouch

This surely does not look like the tennis I play

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Post by Tenez on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:30 am

A lack of composure with Djoko this year. He misses the easy balls when last year he was clinical. That was most obvious during the clay season.

I am not sure why.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:30 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:What's frustrating is that the rallies are relatively slow and the ball is hardly getting close to the lines.
the onus is on Nole to change things. Difficult but not impossible.
Djoko getting a bit of his own medecine then.


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