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The Wimbledon 2012 Final - Federer v Murray

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:31 am

I won't be watching unfortunately as I'll be travelling. However for once I feel Murray has a very good chance to win his first slam. I have always said that winning a slam, for some, requires a share of luck and for Murray who has always failed thus far v Djokovic, Federer and Nadal that luck would be presented to him the day those 3 would be out of form.

Federer has played the whole fortnight without a FH, his biggest weapon due to a bad back, and Djoko admitting himself in his post match interview was not tip top either v Federer. Murray therefore is now there with a great chance, especially knowing he has always beaten an off-form Federer, it's at h0me, in front of his crowd.

What else does he need?

I will say however that Murray deserves a slam. He reached the final 3 times before and has worked hard enough to deserve one...even if luck would play its part...like in most slam.

Under those circumstances Murray is the clear favourite and really should win but Federer has surprised me more than once and seems in a mission backed by the tennis gods who have so far sent him chockers and injured player so he can reach his final in his worse performance over a decade.

Leave your comments, I'll be reading them all on my arrival at destination

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Post by Veejay on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:07 am

Im amazed at the amount of people who are tipping Murray to win,Murray has yet to take a set off Roger in a grand slam.He has never beaten Roger in a major and hasnt beaten one of the top 3 player ahead of him in a major since 2010 AO,when Nadal retired,the time before that was in 08 U.S Open,thats 4 years ago

Of course Murray has improved leaps and bounds since then,he is a much better and more experienced player,but I will only believe it when I see it
Time and time again he has shown great promise on his run to the final of a tournament only to look completely out of depth when he gets there
I agree a lot of it is mental,but I dont know how he is suddenly going to over come his demons in his first Wimbledon final with the most pressure and expectation ever placed on him.He is gonna feel it on court today in front of his home crowd and with Madam coming to watch in the royal box,he knows the burden of expectation is to win.The bitter disappointment of losing wont just end there,the weight of a nations hopes potentially shattered also rests on his shoulders,and he knows how ruthless the media are,if he doesnt win its a 4th major final hes lost,he will be written off just as quickly as they built him up as a demi god,
Its now or never for him,unfortunately for him its under these circumstances,will he rise above it? Remains to be seen but going on his track record,its less likely that he would

Roger did something really special in the semi final,its the most focused and confident I have seen him in years,I find it hard to imagine that he will blow this opportunity,but thats no means a forgone conclusion
If he does struggle to find the form he played with on Friday,he wont go down without giving it his best shot
Gonna be an exciting final

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:32 am

Veejay wrote:Im amazed at the amount of people who are tipping Murray to win,Murray has yet to take a set off Roger in a grand slam.He has never beaten Roger in a major and hasnt beaten one of the top 3 player ahead of him in a major since 2010 AO,when Nadal retired,the time before that was in 08 U.S Open,thats 4 years ago

But how many times have we seen there is always time for a "first one". It did not matter whether Davy, Blake, Karlo, Stepanek, etc...never won anything v Fed. Came a time they did. If Fed were in his AO2010 form, I woudl not be worried but he has been playing terrible lately.

Of course Murray has improved leaps and bounds since then,he is a much better and more experienced player,but I will only believe it when I see it

I am not impressed by those improvements frankly. It's Federer's form that worries me.


I agree a lot of it is mental,but I dont know how he is suddenly going to over come his demons in his first Wimbledon final with the most pressure and expectation ever placed on him.He is gonna feel it on court today in front of his home crowd and with Madam coming to watch in the royal box,he knows the burden of expectation is to win.

I never thought it was actually mental...more that all the players he played in those finals he lost were simply better than him.


If he does struggle to find the form he played with on Friday,he wont go down without giving it his best shot
Gonna be an exciting final

Agreed. We know Fed is extremely strong mentally. "mentally he is a rock" Benneteau. "his main strength is the mind" says Djokovic.

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Post by Veejay on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:56 am

Youre right,theres always a first for everything
I watched the semi final again and I was really impressed with the way Roger played,more so with his mental fortitude and concentration level
He is never going to emulate the form he was in during his prime,he is a step slower and far more inconsistent,but he is making up for his old age and short comings by executing the right game plan,rather then just focusing on his game,it certainly worked well against Djokovic who I think played a fairly good match
I was also worried about Rogers form,but if you just watched Fridays match and hadnt followed the tournament,you would have never thought there was reason to be worried.I mean we were worried he may not make it past the quarters,but here he is in the finals having beaten the defending champion quite convincingly,so he must be doing something right

Murray does loose to the better player,but I do think its a combination of his mental fortitude or lack there of and being out classed
I would say all the grand slam finals he played in,he played a better match in the semi final then the final,never looking like a winner in the final,was a loser from start to finish

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Re: The Wimbledon 2012 Final - Federer v Murray

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:12 pm

Roof closed!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:01 pm

and opened Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:05 pm

If Murray is a Christian which I think he may be as I saw him pray on the chair after the match, he will win this match.
Not because he is a better player (he is not and will never be) but because God will intervene. I reckon Fed's serve will go. ad Murray will have an unusual peace about him.


There you go, I've said it!


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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:06 pm

I'll be happy whoever wins, of course, beautiful final, perfect setting, so much on the line for both, just fantastic Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:09 pm

Molina is a great umpire!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:09 pm

where is everyone? :shock:

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Re: The Wimbledon 2012 Final - Federer v Murray

Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:12 pm

I am here now smiley rooting for Fed

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:13 pm

Fed nervous?

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:13 pm

Murray breaks, wow.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:13 pm

Murray breaks in the first game, Fed's serve off.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:14 pm

wow3 wrote:I am here now smiley rooting for Fed

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:16 pm

Quite an intense match. They both look very nervous.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:16 pm

Andy is pulping those forehands.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:17 pm

Andy has come with a purpose today. Fed will haev to up his game.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:17 pm

I noticed Murray hitting his forehand viciously against Nole at Boodles once or twice, will be interesting if he can maintain it for the whole match.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:18 pm

Well done Andy! Nole's no. 1 rank seems to be secure for now.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:19 pm

wow3 wrote:Well done Andy! Nole's no. 1 rank seems to be secure for now.

he,he Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:21 pm

Murray playing full on and returning very well.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:24 pm

Fed finally gets on the scoreboard. Excellent tactics from Lendl Winking
Murray htting the ball harder than Fed, EVEN the forehand which he is using as a weapon, at last. Very interesting.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:26 pm

Murray playing like Nole now :shock:

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:27 pm

Fed will be switching tactics now like he did for Nole: to slow his legs to a halt.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:28 pm

Funny to see Fed counter-punch

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:29 pm

Certainly a better contest than Djoko-Nadal stuff.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:29 pm

wow, federer! what a shot.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:30 pm

Gorgeous bakchand down the line gives Fed first break point

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:30 pm

and he takes it

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:32 pm

Murray digs deep

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:32 pm

Murray scrambles to love 30

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:33 pm

And then Murray will run out of challenges, poor challenge.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:33 pm

good tennis. First class, in fact.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Murray hitting the ball very well.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Fed awesome at the net

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:36 pm

so is Fed! The level of play is extrordinary. this seems like aproper final.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:41 pm

and s fantastic Nadal isn't in it, RO-SOL! Big Grin

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:44 pm

Fed playing like Fed at the moment: beautiful

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:45 pm

Victoria Beckham watching the match: crime!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Momentym shifting Fed way: def finding his groove, completely unleashed aggression

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:48 pm

I think Fed seems to be fav on this form.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:49 pm

That was some forehand.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:49 pm

Murray not giving in, though, great performance from him so far, playing the match of his life.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:50 pm

wow3 wrote:That was some forehand.
for every awesome Fed forehend there comes a shanked backhand into the stratosphere

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:51 pm

Is that woman next to Andy's dad a younger model?

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:51 pm

He is just hitting those forehands, awesome power.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:52 pm

Exquisite , Fed :bom:

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:53 pm

NIce tennis from Murray, he's really mixing it all up and bringing it on the court with plenty of heart, very moving in fact Sad

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:54 pm

Yeah, avery different Andy!

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