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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:59 am

Nadal has found a second breath...

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:01 am

That happens when your opponent loses his edge.

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:12 am

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Slippy wrote:I reckon I’ve probably heard of every man in the top 200 or so and would recognise most of them. However, I’ve never heard of Kontaveit before reading this article and she’s seeded (and I see knocked out Ostapenko). 

Dimitrov v Kyrgios is the standout match by some way. Kyrgios should win but the pressure on him will be immense.
But. but..... it’s equally valid and well worth equal pay.

The smarter girls know what really makes you a star in the game.i bet Genie Bouchard out-earns those unknown people some have said are top 4 players.
Yeah, there’s arguments either way on equal pay. I just get annoyed when organisations like the BBC pretend as though there’s no reason at all why women playing on their own tour could, perfectly fairly, receive less prize money. My favourite was the female darts player complaining they weren’t paid enough - at a sport where men theoretically have very little advantage and women can play on the men’s tour. 

Not sure about Bouchard though. I’m sure she’s making a lot more than someone like Svitolina. I’m guessing though her endorsements would sky rocket even higher though if she ever won a match! Seems to me she’s had some sort of mental issue with her game rather than taking a relaxed approach because she’s quids in anyway.

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:12 am

6 BPs wasted in that 4th set alone.

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Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:17 am

Schwartzman is 26 in the world for a reason - he’s a fantastic player but he was redlining early on and it was always going to be hard to maintain that level against Nadal. I will say now though, having now watched both of them play, that Nadal has absolutely no chance against Federer in a night match. He’d be relying on Fed to have a total shocker. If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:19 am

NADAL TENNIS ACADEMY....who wants to learn such a sweaty and ugly tennis. Do they provide the magic potions which go with this kind of games?

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:23 am

Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.
I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:26 am

Just watched a bit of Edmnd....He has not got the legs to play Nadal.

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:37 am

Slippy wrote:
bogbrush wrote:
Slippy wrote:I reckon I’ve probably heard of every man in the top 200 or so and would recognise most of them. However, I’ve never heard of Kontaveit before reading this article and she’s seeded (and I see knocked out Ostapenko). 

Dimitrov v Kyrgios is the standout match by some way. Kyrgios should win but the pressure on him will be immense.
But. but..... it’s equally valid and well worth equal pay.

The smarter girls know what really makes you a star in the game.i bet Genie Bouchard out-earns those unknown people some have said are top 4 players.
Yeah, there’s arguments either way on equal pay. I just get annoyed when organisations like the BBC pretend as though there’s no reason at all why women playing on their own tour could, perfectly fairly, receive less prize money. My favourite was the female darts player complaining they weren’t paid enough - at a sport where men theoretically have very little advantage and women can play on the men’s tour. 

Not sure about Bouchard though. I’m sure she’s making a lot more than someone like Svitolina. I’m guessing though her endorsements would sky rocket even higher though if she ever won a match! Seems to me she’s had some sort of mental issue with her game rather than taking a relaxed approach because she’s quids in anyway.
I was being sarcastic, I don’t see a single argument to justify equal pay.

It may have come to attention of the forum that I like a good argument now and then and this is an easy one.

It’s simply this: there are two types of tournament

- the open one where any human being capable of the highest standard of play is eligible. This is the premier tournament and should have the top pay. Anyone can apply to enter the pre-qualification process.
- a series of entry-restricted tournaments for those whose physical limitations prevent them from succeeding in the main event. These include wheelchair-confined people, the aged, juveniles, and women. These should certainly all receive equal pay at a lesser level than the main event.

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:19 am

I got the sarcasm Winking. I mainly agree with you. Certainly don’t disagree to the extent I’m going to waste time arguing about it!

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Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:22 am

Good to see Fed playing in the day tomorrow. Winning the Australian should, at least to some extent, involve dealing with day time conditions.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:24 am

Slippy wrote:Good to see Fed playing in the day tomorrow. Winning the Australian should, at least to some extent, involve dealing with day time conditions.
Why? The final is in the evening..

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:29 am

Dimi hit 29 DF's in the previous rounds..strange stat..

Nice first game here. 2 shotmakers, yet very different ones.

Com'n Nick!

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:33 am

Tenez wrote:
Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.
I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.
That's all theoretical nonsense. Every Federer fan wants Nick to beat NAdal.  Winking

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:54 am

Kyrgios won his first match against Nadal, Djoko and Fed..
Do we have an underachiever here or what?

4-3 Dimi
Good match!

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:56 am

If Nick serves well, what can you do?

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:59 am

The thing with Nick is that he stops trying when he gets 30-0 or 40-15 behind. Quite comforting for the serving player

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:02 am

If it goes on like this, in 5 hours time we'll be looking at 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 20-20

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:08 am

Have to say, Dimi is not being outhit like he was bound to be.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:12 am

Tie break. Nick has won 4 and lost none so far..


edit: and just did now

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:24 am

Based on this match there's no evidence that Kyrgios would beat Nadal or even Federer. His returns games are too flat.
Dimi wins most of the neutral rallies, his footwork is simply better. I guess Nadal would exploit Nick's static game. Dimi has it at least in him to turn it to a marathon again, against Nadal.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:31 am

And Dimi gets the break in the second set. That was some louzy netplay by Nick. He's gliding down to the occasional irritation mode..

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 am

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:
Slippy wrote:... If I were a Fed fan, I’d be supporting Nadal if he ends up in a SF against Kyrgios as  that’s the real danger.
I thought of that. The problem is Federer may have less energy this year and to me he is still odds against to reach the final. If he does, yes, Nadal woudl be a decent/easier opponent.
That's all theoretical nonsense. Every Federer fan wants Nick to beat NAdal.  Winking

Yes cause what's most important is Nadal not winning more slams.

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:45 am

This is big boy hitting.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:45 am

And of course Dimi chokes when he serves for the second set. Under pressure his first serve drops under the 190 k/ph range and his second transforms into an Aranxta Sanchez serve. 

Those guys can hit the ball but none have it in him to win the AO, not a chance.


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Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:46 am

Hmm, this looked to be heading to a familiar Kyrgios’ meltdown and comfortable defeat but, instead, he’s broken back and gone 6-5 up. New year, new Nick?

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:46 am

And Dimi chokes as usual while serving for the second set.

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:52 am

Dimitrov is impressing me. Very tough and amazing physicality.

As Pete says.......

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:00 am

Kyrgios has the wow factor but not often enough. Dimi is the more solid and complete player.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:21 am

I think that Kygios will be a better match up v Nadal than Dimi. The advanatge of having Dimi is that he will tire Nadal for the final.

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Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:38 am

Not much anyone could have done with Kyrgios in that set. He surely can’t do that for two more sets?

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:39 am

Kyrgios mouvement is so bad.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:40 am

Tenez wrote:I think that Kygios will be a better match up v Nadal than Dimi. The advanatge of having Dimi is that he will tire Nadal for the final.
That seems to be the case, but only for some parts. But he'll serve Nadal way too many free points. 

Both will lose to NAdal anyway. They just don't have it in him to beat Nadal over 5 sets. So i prefer Dimi, he'll at least keep on trying

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:41 am

Tenez wrote:Kyrgios mouvement is so bad.
Yes, can you imagine how that will be exploited by Nadal?

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Re: Aus Open Day 7

Post by DEC1M7 on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:43 am

Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:44 am

Kyrgios is hitting some FH's of the caliber that screwed Delpo's wrist..

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:46 am

DECIMA wrote:Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.
The jury is still out, but if i was you i would fancy a Kyrgios win

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Post by DEC1M7 on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:47 am

gallery play wrote:
DECIMA wrote:Who exactly am I meant to be supporting here??
So confused.
The jury is still out, but if i was you i would fancy a Kyrgios win
Yeah that’s how I see it at the moment too.

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Post by DEC1M7 on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:50 am

This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:53 am

DECIMA wrote:This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.
Dimi's serve is shaky. He used to average around 200 km/ph, today he hardly hits 190 average.
His second serve is plain weak

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Post by DEC1M7 on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:56 am

gallery play wrote:
DECIMA wrote:This is the best I’ve seen Dimitrov play, barely any UEs and so many winners.
Kyrgios has fluctuated from unplayable to no focus.
Dimi's serve is shaky. He used to average around 200 km/ph, today he hardly hits 190 average.
His second serve is plain weak
Good point. And Kyrgios second serve is insane, he can take the game out of the returners hand completely.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:59 am

Crowd's really getting in to this, Dimi might be in trouble..

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:04 pm

Grigor's coach makes it clear: extend the rallies

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:13 pm

Ramos bottling the language.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:14 pm

If Dimi plays like that he will get a chance...teh problem is when he will that chance he will F*** it up!

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:15 pm

Yeah, if that was my son I’d have left by now and told him not to be such a tosser.

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Post by Slippy on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:15 pm

Unreal defence by Dimitrov. Just got enough back.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:15 pm

Holy crap what a miss, and at BP!!

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:16 pm

YESSSSSSS!

Very glad for Dimi.

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Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:16 pm

Surely a choke coming up now

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