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Post by luvsports! on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:35 pm

Bobba Fett (33) vs Wozniacki (2)
Rafa (1) vs Mayer (33)
Dimitrov (3) vs McDonald (33)
Shapovalov (33) vs Tsonga (15)
Dolgopolov (33) vs Ebden (33)
Kyrgios (17) vs Troicki (33)
Baghdatis (33) vs Rublev (30)
Carreno-Busta (10) vs Simon (33)
Cuevas (31) vs Harrison (33)
Ostapenko (7) vs Duan (33)

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Post by luvsports! on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:44 pm

Fett, Mayer, McD, Shap, Dolgo, NKR, Rublev, Simon, Cuevas, Ostapenko
Bulge: woz, rafa, dimi, shap, ebden, kyr, bag, simon,  harrison, osta
mikey: woz, rafa dimi, tsonga, dolgo, nkr, bag, simon, cuevas, osta
t: fett, mayer, mcdonald, shap, ebden, nkr, rublev, simon, cuevas, duan


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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:09 pm

Wozniacki, Mayer, Dimitrov, Shapovalov, Dolgopolov, Kyrrgios, Rublev, Simon, Cuevas, Ostapenko.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:06 am

Wozniacki (2)
Mayer (33)
Dimitrov (3)
Tsonga (15)
Dolgopolov (33)
Troicki (33)
Rublev (30)
vs Simon (33)
Cuevas (31)
Ostapenko (7)

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Post by summerblues on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:53 am

Shapovalov vs Tsonga going to 5th set. Shapovalov looked better for most of the match but Tsonga stepped it up towards the end of the 4th set and Shapovalov's lack of experience showed in some of his shot selection. Not the best quality match, but quite entertaining. Hopefully Shapovalov can win.

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Post by summerblues on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:56 am

Shapovalov breaks. 2:0 in the fifth.

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Post by summerblues on Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:27 am

Oh no. Shapovalov gets broken serving for the match. He looked nervy in that game.

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Post by summerblues on Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:42 am

Tsonga wins. He played smarter tennis in the critical moments and won mostly on experience. Too bad, I was hoping for a Shapovalov vs Kyrgios match in the next round.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:25 am

Sleeveless when you are 32 and getting bald....is not quite the same as when you are 18 with long dark hair.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:58 am

Typical..4 all in the third. 40/0 up and Mayer loses his serve stupidly.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:06 am

but he break back while nadal was serving for the match with a superb BH.

It's hopeless for Mayer but if he can make Nadal run....that's good.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:39 am

Rublev seems to have tatooed his arm.

It does not prevent him from whacking returns and win that first set.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:44 am

Bagdhatis is a bit heavy and too slow for Rub's shots. It shows how much the game evolved since Baghdatis reached that final here 11 years ago?

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:48 am

And Baghdatis' weapon was his huge FH....now it does look that huge compared to the rest of the circuit.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:54 am

that court looks playing very fast as both are often late on the shots. Ball seems to skid a lot.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:12 am

summerblues wrote:Tsonga wins.  He played smarter tennis in the critical moments and won mostly on experience.  Too bad, I was hoping for a Shapovalov vs Kyrgios match in the next round.
Shaaapoooo...

Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:13 am

Tenez wrote:Sleeveless when you are 32 and getting bald....is not quite the same as when you are 18 with long dark hair.
Wow!

I suppose, once a peasant - always a peasant...

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:14 am

Tenez wrote:Rublev seems to have tatooed his arm.

It does not prevent him from whacking returns and win that first set.

I knew he was thick. Now I have the proof.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:15 am

Tenez wrote:that court looks playing very fast as both are often late on the shots. Ball seems to skid a lot.
How does Laver court play compared to the one Rublev is on?

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 am

Rublev is wearing the same outfit as Tiafoe yesterday, it is vile!

To think. That someone must have gone to a prestigious art design school to come up with such atrocity.

I hooe Fed does not wear that Nike horror.



At least Lacoste are stickng to good taste with Nole.
Fila, Fred Perry, Lacoste...traditional, tennis brands.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:27 am

What a contrast Ruby and baggy, bashing vs guile...but it’s entertaining,

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 am

I only saw part of the 3rd set with Nadal but thought the same flaws are there to be exploited.

He's standing ridiculously far back on serve, anyone with the ability to serve with range would have huge margins to go for.

He was able to be exposed by hard hitting.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:32 am

I like Rubi’s FH a lot.
It’s got that old school booming quality!

Gonzo would approve. Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:34 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:that court looks playing very fast as both are often late on the shots. Ball seems to skid a lot.
How does Laver court play compared to the one Rublev is on?

Impossible to say but SHBH Mayer was troubling Nadal and Nadal did not even bother getting to some balls. It is fastish...but comparing is not possible...unless there is a huge difference.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:35 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Rublev seems to have tatooed his arm.

It does not prevent him from whacking returns and win that first set.

I knew he was thick. Now I have the proof.

He is young and passionate.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:41 am

bogbrush wrote:He was able to be exposed by hard hitting.
yep...quite a different surface/conds than the USO.

The USO was set up for him.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:47 am

Sadly Dimitrov is blowing the 1st set. Nadal might make this final without meeting a seed at this rate!

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:51 am

Tenez wrote:
bogbrush wrote:He was able to be exposed by hard hitting.
yep...quite a different surface/conds than the USO.

The USO was set up for him.
Yes, they turned the their slam into travesty.

I don’t remember a single decent match, whereas look how good and watchable all AO matches are.

Even in Kyrgios Troicki match where aces are booming left right and centre.

I can’t imagine dull long ralies from 2009- 2012 here any more.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:52 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Rublev seems to have tatooed his arm.

It does not prevent him from whacking returns and win that first set.

I knew he was thick. Now I have the proof.

He is young and passionate.

And thick.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:42 am

I did not watch the end of Bagh Rublev but it seems players find it hard to keep running versus Rublev. He is forcing long rallies at a much higher pace than nadal, Murray and Djoko were. After ferrer, Bagh gets double broken in the last set.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am

His fh is lethal, and he regularly goes down the line at will! ...so that is his biggest weapon I think.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:01 pm

What I like about this year’s Rubi is his fighting and competing streak he is showing.

He just looks more confident and relaxed.

Very different from the last year’s version.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:04 pm

The problem with Dimi is that he has a very fragile BH.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:40 pm

Dear me, #178 ranked player for Gods sake.

OK, squeezes past 8-6 in the 5th but if Federer were in Nadals position in the draw I'd be laughing my head off.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:43 pm

Yep. I don;t think he will ever win a slam. He simply hasn't got the nerves.

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Post by barrystar on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:10 pm

Tenez wrote:
bogbrush wrote:He was able to be exposed by hard hitting.
yep...quite a different surface/conds than the USO.

The USO was set up for him.

It's bizarre when you consider the Sampras/Agassi period when the USO was the fast surface that Sampras beat Agassi on, and the AO was the slow surface that Agassi beat Sampras on and Courier won on twice.

I know which surface I prefer - coupled with the fact that the AO tends to have less injury problems than the USO most seasons, it may be moving off its traditional turf as the clear #4 in terms of prestige.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:26 pm

One thing Fed fans should be worried about concerning his overall slam record is the nature of the show that is sport nowadays, or was it always such?

It is clear that the tennis business will be in search of new records, new sensations, new barriers to break, once Federer retires. People want t to be "part of history" (the new big phrase) and what would the next  big record to break, the next most attainable milestone, history maker? Nadal catching on Fed's record. I would therefore not be surprised if slam TDs were not doing their best to facilitate that event like the |USO, AO and Wimbledon slowed down their slams to allow their own Fedal finals. This is what people wanted to watch...and that is what they were given.

Let's see whether the AO will keep its pacy surface once federer is done.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:49 pm

Tenez wrote:Nadal did not even bother getting to some balls.


That's good, and encouraging.


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Post by barrystar on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:50 pm

Tenez wrote:One thing Fed fans should be worried about concerning his overall slam record is the nature of the show that is sport nowadays, or was it always such?

It is clear that the tennis business will be in search of new records, new sensations, new barriers to break, once Federer retires. People want t to be "part of history" (the new big phrase) and what would the next  big record to break, the next most attainable milestone, history maker? Nadal catching on Fed's record. I would therefore not be surprised if slam TDs were not doing their best to facilitate that event like the |USO, AO and Wimbledon slowed down their slams to allow their own Fedal finals. This is what people wanted to watch...and that is what they were given.

Let's see whether the AO will keep its pacy surface once federer is done.

Worth having a look at the up-and-coming Australian players too - I reckon, for example, that a faster surface may suit Kyrgios.  I don't know what the story is on the Women's side, so they may keep it fast.  They must have had a reason for going faster after generally being the slower HC slam.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:52 pm

There are million of reasons for courts to be fast, and only one for slow.
His name is Nadal.

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Post by gallery play on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:03 pm

barrystar wrote:
Tenez wrote:One thing Fed fans should be worried about concerning his overall slam record is the nature of the show that is sport nowadays, or was it always such?

It is clear that the tennis business will be in search of new records, new sensations, new barriers to break, once Federer retires. People want t to be "part of history" (the new big phrase) and what would the next  big record to break, the next most attainable milestone, history maker? Nadal catching on Fed's record. I would therefore not be surprised if slam TDs were not doing their best to facilitate that event like the |USO, AO and Wimbledon slowed down their slams to allow their own Fedal finals. This is what people wanted to watch...and that is what they were given.

Let's see whether the AO will keep its pacy surface once federer is done.

Worth having a look at the up-and-coming Australian players too - I reckon, for example, that a faster surface may suit Kyrgios.  I don't know what the story is on the Women's side, so they may keep it fast.  They must have had a reason for going faster after generally being the slower HC slam.
I guess a 6 hour final helped a bit. 
Besides: who wants to play on sticky court during one of the hottest tournaments of the year? The other 2 tournaments played under exceptionally warm conditions usually have quite fast courts (Dubai and Cinci).
To me it seemed they started to slow the AO down after 2007 and it became a retirement fest ever since. So they had to adjust sometime.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:22 pm

bogbrush wrote:I only saw part of the 3rd set with Nadal but thought the same flaws are there to be exploited.

He's standing ridiculously far back on serve, anyone with the ability to serve with range would have huge margins to go for.

He was able to be exposed by hard hitting.

He did that in US Open and beyond and got away with it.  The players on tour are mostly brain dead without a single strategic thought in their head.

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Post by barrystar on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:40 pm

gallery play wrote:
barrystar wrote:
Tenez wrote:One thing Fed fans should be worried about concerning his overall slam record is the nature of the show that is sport nowadays, or was it always such?

It is clear that the tennis business will be in search of new records, new sensations, new barriers to break, once Federer retires. People want t to be "part of history" (the new big phrase) and what would the next  big record to break, the next most attainable milestone, history maker? Nadal catching on Fed's record. I would therefore not be surprised if slam TDs were not doing their best to facilitate that event like the |USO, AO and Wimbledon slowed down their slams to allow their own Fedal finals. This is what people wanted to watch...and that is what they were given.

Let's see whether the AO will keep its pacy surface once federer is done.

Worth having a look at the up-and-coming Australian players too - I reckon, for example, that a faster surface may suit Kyrgios.  I don't know what the story is on the Women's side, so they may keep it fast.  They must have had a reason for going faster after generally being the slower HC slam.
I guess a 6 hour final helped a bit. 
Besides: who wants to play on sticky court during one of the hottest tournaments of the year? The other 2 tournaments played under exceptionally warm conditions usually have quite fast courts (Dubai and Cinci).
To me it seemed they started to slow the AO down after 2007 and it became a retirement fest ever since. So they had to adjust sometime.

The 'big' change was "rebound ace" (green) to "plexicushion" (blue) from 2007-2008.  They apparently re-surface the courts every year.  This Daily Mail article  is informative, subject to the caveat that Tournament Organisers always say the same thing about surfaces. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/aap/article-5237279/No-change-Australian-Open-court-speed.html.  Other articles talk about changes to the balls &c &c - it's the usual stuff.

Tiley does say this, The guy does say this, suggesting that they like the surface they currently have:

But he says there has been no change to the annual resurfacing process and players should expect the courts to be the same "medium-fast" pace of last year.
Tiley also believes the pace on offer at Melbourne Park enhances the overall spectacle by catering to a variety of playing styles.
"The speed encourages that," Tiley told AAP"

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:28 pm

Yes Tiley is right but imagine Nadal get to 18 or even 19 GS, would not he love to have "history" on his slam and help Nadal get to 19/20 slams by suddenly offering if not a different surface, good draw or bouncy balls?

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Post by barrystar on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:37 pm

Perhaps the best thing is to learn not to care about who ends up with the most slams..?

Do you think the players themselves are as obsessed with their slam tallies as their fans are?

I kind of think that each of Fedal wants pretty badly to be the guy with the most slams when they hang up their respective racquets.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:57 pm

barrystar wrote:Perhaps the best thing is to learn not to care about who ends up with the most slams..?
Indeed it's good to put things in perspective and this is only tennis. However, tennis, and Federer in particular, gave me roughly 15 years of great, positive emotions on balance and it would spoil it all if Nadal ended winning more slams.

Do you think the players themselves are as obsessed with their slam tallies as their fans are?
I think so. They care about being number 1..so they care about being number 1 for ever (highest slam count).

I kind of think that each of Fedal wants pretty badly to be the guy with the most slams when they hang up their respective racquets.
Of course. It is the fight of their life.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:11 pm

Just read about the biggest choke ever! (correct me if I’m wrong)

Fett was 5:1, 40:15 inna deciding set against Wozniacki, and yes, she managed to lose!!!

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:25 pm

That's bad. It will take time to recover. Most annoying as I had chosen Fett to beat Woz iif I remember.

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:53 pm

He won't, not if me and ma boyz av anything to say about it! Big Grin

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