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Post by luvsports! on Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:35 pm

Correct sets and joker

Anderson (35) vs Busta (25)
Nadal (10) vs Del Po (40)


Busta in 4, Nadal in 4 (joker)
T: busta in 4, delpo in 4 joker
B: anderson in 4, delpo in 5 joker
M: Anderson in 3 joker, nadal in 3


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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:46 pm


Anderson (35) vs Busta (25) - Busta in 5 - Joker

Nadal (10) vs Del Po (40) - Nadal in 4...cause he is going to panick at some stage.

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Daniel on Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:45 pm

Anderson in 4.
Del Potro in 4.

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:40 pm

I like what I see with Anderson. He has to play lots of balls but does it well without panicking. He is facing a very solid player though. Quite open so far.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:45 pm

and just when I say that he gets broken the next game trying to hit through this bloody slow court.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:50 pm

3 balls in opposite corners yet Busta gets to it no problem.


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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:57 pm

Tenez wrote:3 balls in opposite corners yet Busta gets to it no problem.

Not watching but the score says it all...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:59 pm

I don't think Busta will have what it takes to stop Nadal. My only hope is that he can do what Djoko does...rally until Nadal tires.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:15 pm

You've answered my question...

The score looking better now, I may tune in until I drop off. sleepy

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:19 pm

2 proper clay specialists in the final!

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:22 pm

I can't watch this.
This is not even challengers level.

The two can't even produce smooth service games, returning just as bad.

UEs 1m wide...


Travesty of a semi-final.


Organisers deserve nothing better.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:24 pm

I honestly don't think I have ever seen as slow conds as that. Clay could be slower but since there is more sliding on clay, mouvement is not as easy as on a HC.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:27 pm

Agreed.

The height of bounce is crazy.

Kev's serving is tragic, he is so tight he can't breathe.
I can't believe this is a USO SF.

The worst slam I've ever seen.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:37 pm

noleisthebest wrote:...

The worst slam I've ever seen.
Wimbledon 2010? FO17?

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:59 pm

Anderson needs to win this. he is the only one who can stop nadal.

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Jahu on Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:28 pm

Come on Kev, crush him.

Kev-Delpo Final!!! Would be happy for both equally who ever won it, little more for Kev  Big Grin

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:59 pm

yep....im starting to believe in Kevin

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:01 am

Yeah, looks like clueless me kicked your ass again too.


Anderson in 4.


Busta in 5 - Joker

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:04 am

Looking good for Special K

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Post by Jahu on Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:47 am

Brave play by Kev, lots of hard hitting, no fear!

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Post by luvsports! on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:19 am

Delpo breaks!

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:28 am

Nadal is as far back as he is can be.... and yet they still don't do an underarm or short serve.  A bit of spin on the serve too... there's just NO WAY nadal could get to it.  And he'd be shitting it staying there on serve. Make no mistake about it... Nadal would.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:37 am

lol look at the little dick trying to get the crowd on his side.  So transparent.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:45 am

Anyone still think Delpo's backhand is useless?  Anyone think it's 20% Del Potro chance?

Any takers?  I'm clueless, so I wouldn't know.


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Post by bogbrush on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:45 am

Nadal just trying to wait for Del Potro to miss, or to wear him out. Dismal.

Anyway, 1st won!

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Post by bogbrush on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:55 am

Woods, ffs. Drunken perv.

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:55 am

Very unlucky for Del Potro that.  Doesnt help that some idiot in crowd shouting out during points.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:06 am

The game he got broke should really have been his - but since then Nadal has had a lot of confidence.


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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:22 am

Flukey as FUCK that point for Nadal.  But he's unfortunately playing his best ever match of the year... right where you don't want him to.  After a total piss easy draw haha.

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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:35 am

Del Potro gave all the momentum to Nadal early in set 2.  And he needs to get it back.  He's not serving anywhere near like he was v Fed... his % in has dropped massively.  And that's something he really really needs to be rock solid.


Good news is... Federer not being at his best and going out is a blessing.  Sure he'd have mixed it up and what not, but Nadal is playing his best match here and it would have been typical Nadal to find Fed off key in their only US Open match.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:50 am



Come on, Delpo!

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:08 am

Well, what odds are we giving Anderson?  Laugh I think he will need to bring his top serving to the match.  Del Potro has sadly dropped 3 levels on serve since Federer and that's where he's losing. It's giving all the momentum and confidence to Nadal.

And it was a really promising start too.  Nadal was being battered. 

What a joke of a draw Nadal has had this year.  It was practically the only way he would win this slam again. Federer has had nothing but shit here for years.  Doh


One more time:


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Post by Jahu on Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:20 am

FFS Delpo what you done!!!  Doh

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:02 am

Jahu wrote:FFS Delpo what you done!!!  Doh
He has done what he could.

I would like to check the stat regarding Nadal's first set history v last set(s). I don;t think I have ever seen a player who struggles so much in the first set compared to the following sets when his opponent tires (or gets bored?). It is such a typical pattern of Road runners tennis. In that tournament alone, Nadal struggled or lost the first set in 4 of his 6 matches.

Even in his H2H v Federer this pattern is more than obvious.

Might be done to nerves as well as superior fitness. I think it is simply both but fitness essentially.


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Re: US open prediction game: men sf

Post by naxroy on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:03 am

Nadal, 4th final in new york.
3rd slam final of the year.
Well played.

He has now reached at least 4 finals in every slam. not bad for a claycourter

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:05 am

naxroy wrote:Nadal, 4th final in new york.
3rd slam final of the year.
Well played.

He has now reached at least 4 finals in every slam. not bad for a claycourter
Not surprising for a clay courter rather. We almost had another claycourter in that final too.

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Post by Jahu on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:23 am

Yes yes, good run for Delpo, hope he keeps it for next year too.

Maybe Kev can make history same as Delpo at USO  Big Grin

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:27 am

naxroy wrote:Nadal, 4th final in new york.
3rd slam final of the year.
Well played.

He has now reached at least 4 finals in every slam. not bad for a claycourter

Until you factor in he had the most insanely easy draws consistently that anyone has ever seen....

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:30 am

Daniel wrote:Anyone still think Delpo's backhand is useless?  Anyone think it's 20% Del Potro chance?

Any takers?  I'm clueless, so I wouldn't know.
This is all so typical:  how the match went, your reactions, how the match ended... 

Save your energy Daniel, Nadal will win the USO.

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:44 am

Tenez wrote:
naxroy wrote:Nadal, 4th final in new york.
3rd slam final of the year.
Well played.

He has now reached at least 4 finals in every slam. not bad for a claycourter
Not surprising for a clay courter rather. We almost had another claycourter in that final too.  
NAdal's best talent must be his ability to entice TD's to favour him in each and every way (balls, courts, draws, schedules ect).  The first TD who didn't (Tiriac) got Nadal's boycott on his @ss

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:46 am

Tenez wrote:
Jahu wrote:FFS Delpo what you done!!!  Doh
He has done what he could.

I would like to check the stat regarding Nadal's first set history v last set(s). I don;t think I have ever seen a player who struggles so much in the first set compared to the following sets when his opponent tires (or gets bored?). It is such a typical pattern of Road runners tennis. In that tournament alone, Nadal struggled or lost  the first set in  4 of his 6 matches.

Even in his H2H v Federer this pattern is more than obvious.

Might be done to nerves as well as superior fitness. I think it is simply both but fitness essentially.

And I have done a quick check about it...not as precise as I woudl have liked as teh only stat I have is the w/l ratio after losing the first set and not "struggling" in the first set. For instance Nadal struggled (7/5, 7/6 or being a break down or first set loss) in 4 of his 6 matches (66%) but the record will only show 3 1st set losses out of 6 matches (50%).

And in spite of that let me give you example to confirm my point about "fitness" statiscally:

Djoko and Nadal come first with 42%
Murray 3rd with 41%
Federer 40%
other examples:
Ferrer 35%
Stan 34%
Berdych 25%

There is a huge gap between the big 4 and the rest. If anything the oddity here is federer being that high. But when we consider the bo5 record, Federer drops considerably of this "fitness" group. Leaving the RRunners on a league of their own.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:48 am

gallery play wrote:
Daniel wrote:Anyone still think Delpo's backhand is useless?  Anyone think it's 20% Del Potro chance?

Any takers?  I'm clueless, so I wouldn't know.
This is all so typical:  how the match went, your reactions, how the match ended... 

Save your energy Daniel, Nadal will win the USO.
I wanted to post a similar email but wanted to give the guy a break! Winking

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:51 am

You don't even watch the matches, Tenez.  You gave him no prayer against Federer and you think players are better at 35 than 25.  lmao.   If you'd have watched the match last night, you might have something worthwhile to say on it. But you didn't.  So shut up. Your opinion is worthless when you didn't watch a second of it.
Del Potro totally outplayed Nadal in the first set and had he continued with that approach, he would have won.  He didn't lose because he was useless or because Nadal was amazing. He lost because he let Nadal back into it - mostly from his serve level dropping to nothing. His backhand and forehand in set 1 were like the days of old.  After set 1, it was all one way traffic.  Had he turned up in the same mode that beat Federer, Nadal was going out.  The commentators and everyone else noted that Nadal was shitting it.

Also, Delpo brainlessly kept hammering serves when Nadal was 100 miles behind the baseline.  Like they all do. Once Nadal got into Delpos head, he raised his game and played the best match he has all year.  It's not that surprising, because he is as fresh as a daisy after the easiest draw I have ever known.
You were wrong on Anderson, you were wrong with Fed v Delpo.  And you never know, Anderson might actually surprise us all.  Who knows?   Magic

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:59 am

..... You gave him no prayer against Federer
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Where did I say that? Unlike you I knew Delpo was not 100pc

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Post by gallery play on Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:01 am

Daniel wrote:
Del Potro totally outplayed Nadal in the first set and had he continued with that approach, he would have won. 
Yes, but you -as someone who has no doubt about anything- should have seen coming that the tables would turn, don't you?
How many times have we seen a scoreline like this before? Prepare yourself for another one like this tomorrow.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:38 am

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:
naxroy wrote:Nadal, 4th final in new york.
3rd slam final of the year.
Well played.
He has now reached at least 4 finals in every slam. not bad for a claycourter
Not surprising for a clay courter rather. We almost had another claycourter in that final too.  
NAdal's best talent must be his ability to entice TD's to favour him in each and every way (balls, courts, draws, schedules ect).  The first TD who didn't (Tiriac) got Nadal's boycott on his @ss

Nadal sells but i'm not buying
I'm not taking even if they pay me to!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:24 am

Tenez wrote:.....  You gave him no prayer against Federer
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Where did I say that? Unlike you I knew Delpo was not 100pc

Com'on...once again, where did I say that?

Regarding Andreson v CB I had little clue who woudl win. I had not see Anderson play thus far. Very different from Nadal v Delpo. Anyone with a bit of knowledge would know Nadal had 95% chance of winning. Just that you keep predicting Nadal's losses at every single match and you boast about it for a year when there is an odd loss which finally makes you right.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:00 pm

@gallery play.

I have no doubt about anything?  So why didn' I put a bet on it?  I never said Del Potro would win.  I said he had a very good chance, esp if he brought the same game he has all tournament.  He did have a very good chance,. but after set 1, he didn't bring that game.  There is no confusion here whatsoever. You, on the other hand, put him down for a 3 set slaughter? And you said his backhand was virtually non existent.  Watch set 1...  You'll find that wasn't the case.

You seem to write off players way too easily.  You gave Anderson no chance of making the final too, I am guessing?  But here he is.  The game isn't as rigid as "favorite always wins".  Anderson may yet win, despite you giving him 0 chance.

@Tenez  I never said you said it.  But it's fairly obvious from your posts, especially the ones triumphantly declaring that Federer would much prefer Del Potro.  You got it savagely wrong. In your head, a "1 dimensional ball basher"  can't beat Federer - except Del Potro is a lot better than you think.  Then all you could do was blame a bad back and "broken leg".  Give it over.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:50 pm

Daniel wrote:@gallery play.

I have no doubt about anything?  So why didn' I put a bet on it?  I never said Del Potro would win.  I said he had a very good chance, esp if he brought the same game he has all tournament.  He did have a very good chance,. but after set 1, he didn't bring that game.  There is no confusion here whatsoever. You, on the other hand, put him down for a 3 set slaughter? And you said his backhand was virtually non existent.  Watch set 1...  You'll find that wasn't the case.

You seem to write off players way too easily.  You gave Anderson no chance of making the final too, I am guessing?  But here he is.  The game isn't as rigid as "favorite always wins".  Anderson may yet win, despite you giving him 0 chance.

@Tenez  I never said you said it.  But it's fairly obvious from your posts, especially the ones triumphantly declaring that Federer would much prefer Del Potro.  You got it savagely wrong. In your head, a "1 dimensional ball basher"  can't beat Federer - except Del Potro is a lot better than you think.  Then all you could do was blame a bad back and "broken leg".  Give it over.
Well you said I did! and now you agree I have not said it ...simply  because I did not believe so. So if we want to have a proper conversation, let's keep things simple. I am still right about Federer preferring Delpo. Facing a physical player who had multiple MPs to beat Delpo in 4 sets does not make obvious Delpo was the tougher player. Does it?...

To some extend I would have fancied Thiem's chances better versus Nadal. Thiem has power and has beaten Nadal on clay...though I woudl not have given him much more chance than Delpo......just that he woudl have exausted nadal a bit more than Delpo.

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