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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:30 pm

The thread to discuss all things USO...pre USO!



First of all who is going to play?

We know Djokovic, Sta m defending champion and Nishikori are out for the rest of the season.

But what about Murray?

Is he going to skip it? Would be most logical.

No guarantees even that Federer will take part...but let's assume he is, ''cos I've just read this:

http://sport.blic.rs/tenis/federer-moracemo-da-imamo-fizicki-spremne-trenere/yez89yp

Apologies, couldn't find it in English, but in short, Federer comments on two novelties that will be introduced this USO:

1) shot clock of 25 seconds and 
2) players will be able to communicate with coaches from the stands.

In the article he is sarcastic to the bone...suggesting that soin we'll have coaches walking on the court with their player, holding their hand, tossing thr ball for them, etc.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:58 pm

It's funny how they want to take the rest of the season hoping it will bring the same success as Federer.

Will we really have the shot clock at the USO? That woudl be great.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:09 pm

True. 
At least Stan has a surgery to show for.

Nole def needed a break. More mental than physical.

Nish just had to run away from the pressure.


Will be interesting to see how they come back. 
I womder if ATP are going to do stg to prevent this scenario in future.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:21 pm

I hope shot clock is going to happen. I am a bit worried I can't find the article anywhere in English. 

But would be cool to see Nadal finally get rid of his "OCD" Cool

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:36 pm

Well Judy Murray was speaking this week and she felt the last 2 years have taken a lot out of Andy and she was advising he rest. I still believe he will pull out of the US Open. If in some mad twist he does play, I think he will skip the rest of the season afterwards.

I disagree Ten that they are hoping for Federer esq success by taking a rest. For them I would imagine it would be some comfort to possibly be near pain free for the remainders of their careers.

Didn't Raonic withdraw from Cinncy? I would imagine he is a doubt for the US Open. Amazing to think so many are dropping like flies.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:39 pm

In the past those lists of injured players happened after the USO. Is the game so physical that there are more of them now? Or is it simply the fact that the top players are getting older and therefore more prone to injury?

I guess a bit of both.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:40 pm

It's is going to be interesting to see how Nadal copes with 2 matches in a day.....at 31. Well we know he can play 4 or 5 sets...but then playing again tomorrow?

He should start to feel it.

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:43 pm

I can't recall a time when so many of the top 10 who are injured/shackled with niggles.

But even those left standing, I am not convinced I could make anyone a clear favourite for this title.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:56 pm

Best of 5? got to be Nadal!

I doubt Federer will be back to some form of shape.

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Post by Slippy on Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:12 pm

Shot clock is to be trialled in qualies and junior events I believe - not the main draws.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:24 pm

Slippy wrote:Shot clock is to be trialled in qualies and junior events I believe - not the main draws.
That's what I thought.

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Post by Jahu on Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:42 pm

USO gave that drugged russian a wild card, ffs.

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Post by summerblues on Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:07 am

Kyrgios beating Rafa today means, I believe, that Fed, Rafa and Andy are all guaranteed to be #1 after the USO as long as they win the title - irrespective of what the other two will do.

Now of course, if Andy and Fed are injured, and Rafa does not find his form, none of them will be winning the USO.

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Post by Daniel on Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:38 pm

Even if Rafa does find his "form" how is that any indication he will win?  He's won 2 his entire career and they were before he was 30.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:39 pm

Do we have any news on Federer s form or even participation to the USO?

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Post by Daniel on Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:06 pm

You'll soon tell us.  If Federer winning = form good.  If Federer losing = bad back.  If Federer double faults = despair and anguish of cataclysmic proportions.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:41 pm

You really are pathetic . When I noticed Federer was impeded he had not lost a single set and was a break up v Berdych in his semi.
Would be great if you were bringing something new to this forum instead of your basic manichean vision.

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Post by Daniel on Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:09 am

If you don't like it then you should stop doing it to me.  It seems you can give it but can't take it. As to what I bring here... well, it's not any worse to what anyone brings to a forum.  Including you.

Also, what I said in my post is quite true.  I'm sure if Fed goes out or has any issue whatsoever, you'll be far too preoccupied with his back to notice his opponent played well. I saw someone on 606v2 doing it recently with Nadal again.  I call it out if it's a Nadal fan or a Fed fan.

  At least I'm consistent.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:55 am

Tenez wrote:Do we have any news on Federer s form or even participation to the USO?
He'll probably wait for the draw before he announces anything, same as Murray I think.



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Post by legendkillar on Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:36 am

Laugh Laugh Laugh  I did laugh at the little exchange above. Brought some light relief to my early start.

Other news though, Raonic out of the US Open following wrist surgery (cue the tumbleweed of no-one cares  )

So Djokovic, Wawrinka, Nishikori and Raonic now all out. Murray playing his cards close to his chest. Many expecting a statement to be made later (no official confirmation) and others think he will play and not say a dickiebird.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:56 am

Isn't Berdych out too?

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:40 am

Thanks LK. Good news though I will always remember the "I m perfect of Wimbledon 2010.
Be reassured that some of us will see through his real form. Winking


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Post by legendkillar on Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:59 am

Well there some interesting comments in there. He says he feels better, but he is carrying it in rather than the injury being near healed.

Also interesting he credits the Clay break as being able to refresh him physically for his Wimbledon success.

Can't wait to see how he fares.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:36 pm

legendkillar wrote:Well there some interesting comments in there. He says he feels better, but he is carrying it in rather than the injury being near healed.

Also interesting he credits the Clay break as being able to refresh him physically for his Wimbledon success.

Can't wait to see how he fares.

That means to me it killed himself playing both IW and Miami. HC is what really kills the body.

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Post by legendkillar on Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:56 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:Well there some interesting comments in there. He says he feels better, but he is carrying it in rather than the injury being near healed.

Also interesting he credits the Clay break as being able to refresh him physically for his Wimbledon success.

Can't wait to see how he fares.

That means to me it killed himself playing both IW and Miami. HC is what really kills the body.

Could be. The only benefit really playing IW and Miami is the lack of sustained travel. If you take the Clay where you start in MC, then Madrid, then Rome then back to Paris. Dare I say yet again his planning was perfection especially given the outcome. God knows how disappointed he would've been not triumphing at Wimbeldon.

Montreal despite the results, was a bit of disaster having inflamed his back problem.

One can hope really for him he is lucky with the draw and scheduling come the US Open. The first week weather wise looks good. Dry and warm conditions, courts might have some zip in them. Hopefully he avoids the night schedules. 2nd week looking wet and humid. Not so good.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:19 pm

legendkillar wrote:Not heard anything about Berdy

However, I can answer your other question:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/roger-federer-injury-update-latest-focus-us-open-world-no-1-laver-cup-a7909241.html
Excellent news!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:06 pm

Sure. I'm glad he won both iw and miami at his age. That was quite impressive but I would have preferred he played 1 TMS on clay.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:23 pm

Tenez wrote:Sure. I'm glad he won both iw and miami at his  age. That was quite impressive but I would have preferred he played 1 TMS on  clay.
He'll probably do it next year.

I still din't know how he managed to win AO, IW and Miami.
He basically spent all his freshness in those three tournaments.

I suppose the win in AO gave bim wings, and he hadn't been competing for a long time before that.

He gave us some great matches in that stretch.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:42 pm

It looks like the shotclock is up an running...in qualies!


http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/08/2017-us-open-tennis-shot-clock-pace-play-speeding-game/68736/

Hopefully, it will be there in the main draw, too.

I am surprised it's gone unmentioned in media so far.

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:38 pm

legendkillar wrote:Not heard anything about Berdy

However, I can answer your other question:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/roger-federer-injury-update-latest-focus-us-open-world-no-1-laver-cup-a7909241.html
Delighted to hear it. If it was a bit difficult I'd be inclined to inject (legal) pain killers and get through it. Gigantic, career defining things rest on winning this US Open.

I am now officially greedy for 3 Slams this year, the y/e #1, and complete mastery of the tennis Universe forever.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:18 pm

... wrote:It looks like the shotclock is up an running...in qualies!


http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/08/2017-us-open-tennis-shot-clock-pace-play-speeding-game/68736/

Hopefully, it will be there in the main draw, too.

I am surprised it's gone unmentioned in media so far.

Yes not in the main draw afa I know.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:24 pm

bogbrush wrote:... Gigantic, career defining things rest on winning this US Open.

....
Is this humour?

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Post by bogbrush on Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:30 am

... Gigantic, career defining things rest on winning this US Open

....
Is this humour? 
Not at all. To gain 3 Slams in a season while reaching 36; to become the oldest #1 of the Ooen Era; to reach 20 Slams. These are something completely apart.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:57 am

tbh... what he's done already this year is completely apart.  He's just become oldest Wimb champ in history. And he didn't lose a set.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:48 am

Yes BB. I'm already happy with what he achieved so far. To be fair what I really wanted was him to beat Rafa at the FO.... That is the only determining career challenge left for him... But that s too late now.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:28 pm

I am hapoy with whatever he's happy to do.

And I know he's burning to lift Richard.

At the same time, his back could pack in any moment.....let's hope it doesn't! diva

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Post by bogbrush on Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:26 pm

Daniel wrote:tbh... what he's done already this year is completely apart.  He's just become oldest Wimb champ in history. And he didn't lose a set.
Yeah, but even more apart.

If he & Nadal split the Slams it'll be..... slightly disappointing.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:35 pm

If Nadal were to win the USO (and let's face it, with such a depleted field, anything is possible) it puts Federer back in a dog fight for GOAT supremacy.

Feds would still have the cushion of 3 slams but Rafa would have the additional confidence of another HC slam + a nearly 5 year age differential. 

If neither were to win it then it ends as a great year for Fed.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:44 pm

The draw is out.

Fed in Nadal's half, has Kyrgios in his quarter, potentially teicky opener against Tiafoe.

Murray has a joke of a draw.

Nadal, too, but at least he has Dimi in his quarter.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:48 pm

Shockingly, due to nobody playing, A.Zverev is seedded 4th and has easier draw than Federer...an injured Cilic in his quarter.

Will be interesting to see where qf-ers fall, esp Shapalov (hopefully he wins his last round today)

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:15 pm

... wrote:The draw is out.

Fed in Nadal's half, has Kyrgios in his quarter, potentially teicky opener against Tiafoe.

Murray has a joke of a draw.

Nadal, too, but at least he has Dimi in his quarter.

Kyrgios is certainly the toughest QF opponent he could have got. 

Tiafoe is rubbish - ugliest FH since Gulbis.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:22 pm

Naaah, F. Mayer has the ugliest FH.

Btw Tiafoe is a very good player, he just knocked out Zverev in Cinci last week...and watch what great feel for the ball he has:


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Post by bogbrush on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:26 pm

Very tough draw for Federer, as tough as it could be realistically.

A potential 2nd round with the Colonel, to get another 17-0 h2h in the books.

Nadal avoided all the big hitters.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:35 pm

Actually it looks like Kyrgios in the 4rth round

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Post by bogbrush on Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:07 pm

Yes, Thiem is seeded for the quarter.

Perhaps Sam Querrey might break that up.

The more I've looked at it, the more I think in the current field Federer couldn't have got much harder.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:04 pm

Ouch that's not good.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:29 pm

bogbrush wrote:Very tough draw for Federer, as tough as it could be realistically.

A potential 2nd round with the Colonel, to get another 17-0 h2h in the books.

Nadal avoided all the big hitters.

Again.  Been the story of this year.  Nadal has had a cake walk in every slam.  At least this time he has Dimitrov...  but Federer has Kyrgios so early and that's a deadly tie.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:53 pm

... wrote:Naaah, F. Mayer has the ugliest FH.

Btw Tiafoe is a very good player, he just knocked out Zverev in Cinci last week...and watch what great feel for the ball he has:

He has teh same FH as Khashanov.

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