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Who is more talented: Novak Djokovic or Michaël Llodra?

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Re: Who is more talented: Novak Djokovic or Michaël Llodra?

Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:36 pm

No no SB, sorry I was unclear.

By 'people' I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about Tenez et co. (who are convinced of this conspiracy) Winking

Apologies, I should have made that clearer. sorry


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Re: Who is more talented: Novak Djokovic or Michaël Llodra?

Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:40 pm

But my main point still remains, as the article shows it is possible to help hand-eye co-ordination in tennis.
As you state, and I fully agree with you, PEDs to help endurance are probably more well known, but I think the top players, if they did have the support of ATP and WADA in taking PEDs, could take anything (i.e. substances that help both endurance and hand-eye co-ordination).

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Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:00 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:By 'people' I wasn't talking about you

No problem, I understood that bit. I just thought you left my question unanswered (you did address it in your subsequent post since then).

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Re: Who is more talented: Novak Djokovic or Michaël Llodra?

Post by summerblues on Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:09 pm

Amritia3ee wrote:But my main point still remains, as the article shows it is possible to help hand-eye co-ordination in tennis.
As you state, and I fully agree with you, PEDs to help endurance are probably more well known, but I think the top players, if they did have the support of ATP and WADA in taking PEDs, could take anything (i.e. substances that help both endurance and hand-eye co-ordination).

Sorry to keep nagging but I am still a bit unclear on your take on this. Yes, fair enough, if a sport (tennis or any other sport) did not have stringent enough anti-doping rules, then athletes might be able to take all kinds of substances. I understand that part.

But my take is that if a sport has a choice to either gear towards hand-eye coordination skills or towards strength/endurance skills, then - everything else being equal - the latter causes bigger PED risks. Not saying the risks are nil in the hand-eye coordination case but the risk/reward of taking PEDs will probably be better if the sport focuses on strength/endurance.

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Re: Who is more talented: Novak Djokovic or Michaël Llodra?

Post by Larry Ellison on Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:46 pm

Fair point SB Thumbs Up

Doesn't WADA have rules/regulations etc. on this stuff though?

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