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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:22 am

I have had no time for games but will start again this eve.
What happened to Medvedev? He lost his mind when leading 2/0 in the 5th....and threw money to the referee at the end out of frustration.

Anyway today we shoyld have a good view on Federer's form.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:44 am

Btw does anyone know where we can get the wimby interview transcripts?

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Re: Wimbledon Day 4

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:54 am

Here's the order of play:



http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/pdf/schedulePDF11.pdf

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:59 am

I just saw Fed playing Dusan!!!

Cool and not cool.

I am not sure we'll see Federer's form today.

This is as easy match for him as it can get. Nobody-bagels-Dusan-Lajovic is only a light version of Stan.

But at least the crowd will see many beautiful BHs.

And Fed is going to fly around the court.

Lajovic (from now on Duci) will relish playing the match of his life and I am sure he'll bring out the best and dazzle us with his shiniest stuff.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:09 am

No easy match at this level. Hopefully a nice 3 sets warm up.

What i find frustrating with those slams is that we know who can produce the best tennis on grass on the day but there are so many other factors that it is all about "not stripping' stupidily. Could be injury, tiredness, awful conds, etc..

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:49 am

Tenez wrote:No easy match at this level. Hopefully a nice 3 sets warm up.

What i find frustrating with those slams is that we know who can produce the best tennis on  grass on the day but there are so many other factors that it is all about "not stripping' stupidily. Could be injury, tiredness, awful conds, etc..
Worry not! Hug


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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:14 am

Ivanisevic also comments on how grass has changed:

He says it is not what it used to be, it's nearly same as clay as we have longer rallies on grass than clay now, players are complaining of how slow it is.

Only movement still has to be different, from time to time players will slip, bounce will be irregular but "things are changing" (*tennis evolution).
He concludes that players who can play on grass will still do well.

He sees Murray and Nole only 3rd & 4th favourites.

...and he wants a Federer-Nadal final!

http://www.b92.net/sport/wimbledon2017/nikolin-slajs.php?yyyy=2017&mm=07&dd=06&nav_id=1279621

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:23 am

Just saw that Medvedev was throwing coins out of his wallet to the umpire who apparently overrulled many calls.

Was hawkeye available on the court he was playing?



Didn't see the match but am assuming he must have felt robbed by the "bribed" umpire, so just added a bit more to her paycheque.

Cool if he was right.

We can all remember how umpire/linespeople robbed Karlovic vs Murray a few years ago with 11 footfaults!!!

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Post by naxroy on Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:52 am

That coin throwing is simply disgraceful, I dont know what is happening with some guys on tour

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:00 pm

It's not as disgraceful as bad umpiring.

As if it's not already tough enough for young players...

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:40 pm

... wrote:Ivanisevic also comments on how grass has changed:

He says it is not what it used to be, it's nearly same as clay as we have longer rallies on grass than clay now, players are complaining of how slow it is.

Only movement still has to be different, from time to time players will slip, bounce will be irregular but "things are changing" (*tennis evolution).
He concludes that players who can play on grass will still do well.

He sees Murray and Nole only 3rd & 4th favourites.

...and he wants a Federer-Nadal final!

http://www.b92.net/sport/wimbledon2017/nikolin-slajs.php?yyyy=2017&mm=07&dd=06&nav_id=1279621

That's realistic. I would rate it for now as:
1. Fed
2. NAd
3. Djoko
4. Murray

Same old story..Grass is a neutralizing affair these days. Grr

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Post by naxroy on Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:41 pm

bad umpiring its part of the game, and it will have its consequences, but thats total disrespect. 

bad umpiring can happen in the same way a player can have a bad day and make lots of UEs

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Post by Slippy on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:10 pm

... wrote:It's not as disgraceful as bad umpiring.

As if it's not already tough enough for young players...
It's obviously far worse. Everyone makes mistakes (and presumably you don't even know whether the umpire did make any errors here?). However, throwing money suggests they were bribed and corrupt. Much as I like Mervedev, he should get hit with a large fine for that.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:22 pm

Slippy wrote:
... wrote:It's not as disgraceful as bad umpiring.

As if it's not already tough enough for young players...
It's obviously far worse. Everyone makes mistakes (and presumably you don't even know whether the umpire did make any errors here?). However, throwing money suggests they were bribed and corrupt. Much as I like Mervedev, he should get hit with a large fine for that..
Good job noone is asking you, then.

If you could you'd probably send both him and Naste to electric chair. Laugh

Medved is a decent guy, he wouldn't've done it without good reason.
And I am glad he did.

The umpire probably cost him at least another round at the most prestigious slam.

Do you have any idea how much it hurts a player, esp a young one.

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Post by Slippy on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:39 pm

Sorry but that's just nonsensical. I'm sure Medvedev is a decent guy but the reality is that he is obviously biased towards himself. I haven't seen the overrules (and it doesn't sound like you have either) so we have no idea whether there were any clear errors. Even if there were, that still isn't justification for accusing someone of being corrupt. 

As for Nastase, obviously he has rightly been ostracised. You can't call someone a "f*ing bitch" and expect not to be punished and that ignores the other "dirty old man" behaviour he produced. Just came across as ignorant beyond belief.

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Post by Veejay on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:47 pm

Slippy wrote:Sorry but that's just nonsensical. I'm sure Medvedev is a decent guy but the reality is that he is obviously biased towards himself. I haven't seen the overrules (and it doesn't sound like you have either) so we have no idea whether there were any clear errors. Even if there were, that still isn't justification for accusing someone of being corrupt. 

As for Nastase, obviously he has rightly been ostracised. You can't call someone a "f*ing bitch" and expect not to be punished and that ignores the other "dirty old man" behaviour he produced. Just came across as ignorant beyond belief.
Laugh 
isnt medvdev also russian?  Big Grin

com'on edmund!!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:15 pm

Slippy wrote:Sorry but that's just nonsensical. I'm sure Medvedev is a decent guy but the reality is that he is obviously biased towards himself. I haven't seen the overrules (and it doesn't sound like you have either) so we have no idea whether there were any clear errors. Even if there were, that still isn't justification for accusing someone of being corrupt. 

I'll go with Medvedev's judgement.


Slippy wrote:As for Nastase, obviously he has rightly been ostracised. You can't call someone a "f*ing bitch" and expect not to be punished and that ignores the other "dirty old man" behaviour he produced. Just came across as ignorant beyond belief.

Of course you can.
She is one.

It's called freedom of speech.

Why should he be punished...

It's the same as bullying media fuelled NATO bombing of innocent, helpless countries, who then create frustration and terrorist attacks.

When people feel injustice, it is normal to expect a reaction.

Easy to look polite and smug in Royal Box...God help them.

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:19 pm

... wrote:
Slippy wrote:
... wrote:It's not as disgraceful as bad umpiring.

As if it's not already tough enough for young players...
It's obviously far worse. Everyone makes mistakes (and presumably you don't even know whether the umpire did make any errors here?). However, throwing money suggests they were bribed and corrupt. Much as I like Mervedev, he should get hit with a large fine for that..
Good job noone is asking you, then.

If you could you'd probably send both him and Naste to electric chair. Laugh

Medved is a decent guy, he wouldn't've done it without good reason.
And I am glad he did.

The umpire probably cost him at least another round at the most prestigious slam.

Do you have any idea how much it hurts a player, esp a young one.


Agree with Slippy and Naxroy. That's despicable cheap behaviour and damn right rude and disrespectful. What a chump - I hope he grows up because that is the worst kind of attitude to have in life: arrogant, spoilt, petulant.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:22 pm

Is anyone watching Gulbis-Delpo?
I'm not but i'm curious. According the stats Gulbis is hitting like a madman. 33 winners after 15 games..

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Post by Veejay on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:34 pm

... wrote:
Slippy wrote:Sorry but that's just nonsensical. I'm sure Medvedev is a decent guy but the reality is that he is obviously biased towards himself. I haven't seen the overrules (and it doesn't sound like you have either) so we have no idea whether there were any clear errors. Even if there were, that still isn't justification for accusing someone of being corrupt. 

I'll go with Medvedev's judgement.


Slippy wrote:As for Nastase, obviously he has rightly been ostracised. You can't call someone a "f*ing bitch" and expect not to be punished and that ignores the other "dirty old man" behaviour he produced. Just came across as ignorant beyond belief.

Of course you can.
She is one.

It's called freedom of speech.

Why should he be punished...

It's the same as bullying media fuelled NATO bombing of innocent, helpless countries, who then create frustration and terrorist attacks.

When people feel injustice, it is normal to expect a reaction.

Easy to look polite and smug in Royal Box...God help them.
would you still go with medvedevs judgement if he wasnt russian?
i dont even think that nadal or serena would have acted that way if they felt that the calls made against them were unjust and unfair
what medvedev did was strike at the heart of the tournament by suggesting that the tournament is unfair and bias and that players or the tournament can bribe an umpire to win matches or get the win that they want.h was basically accussing wimbledon of being corrupt 
thats a very very serious accusation to make,especially for a player.wimbledon should ban him from competing there again 

as for nastase,i dont think that you would ever see federer behave that way,and if he somehow did,i think that he would be the first to apologise 
that says it all really

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Making umpiring errors is bad, accusing him of corruption is despicable.

Guy should get a massive fine.

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Post by Veejay on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:17 pm

very disappointing from kyle edmund
so many chances,this match was definitely on his racket

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:21 pm

gallery play wrote:Is anyone watching Gulbis-Delpo?
I'm not but i'm curious. According the stats Gulbis is hitting like a madman. 33 winners after 15 games..
Just got home, Gulbis 2 sets up and looking sharp.
Maybe he's been inspired by his compatriot Ostapenko.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:25 pm

Did anyone warch Nole?

The score suggests he was either very good or Pavlashek was very bad.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:27 pm

Good to see an in-form Earnie, shame he bumped into Delpo.

Timing his serves brilliantly.

Apparently hasn't won a single match all year!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:30 pm

Dlepo's def. not 100%

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:59 pm

Pusher doing his thing on a player trying t hit winners, no doubt.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:13 pm

... wrote:Did anyone warch Nole?
The score suggests he was either very good or Pavlashek was very bad.

Looks like Nole had his Milliman match today.



Looked good, though. Ernie next,

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Post by DECIMA on Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:28 pm

... wrote:
Slippy wrote:Sorry but that's just nonsensical. I'm sure Medvedev is a decent guy but the reality is that he is obviously biased towards himself.  

I'll go with Medvedev's judgement.
Good thinking.

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Post by DECIMA on Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:30 pm

Do the BBC have some sort of quota of women's matches to show this year?
I remember last year there was a report criticising BBC for not showing equal number of women's matches, and this year I feel everytime I turn on BBC 1 or 2 it seems to be always women's matches.

They showed Radwanska vs McHale which was on court 2 over Thiem vs Simon which was court 1; and they showed none of Del Potro vs Gulbis which would have definitely been widely watched.


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Post by Veejay on Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:41 pm

DECIMA wrote:Do the BBC have some sort of quota of women's matches to show this year?
I remember last year there was a report criticising BBC for not showing equal number of women's matches, and this year I feel everytime I turn on BBC 1 or 2 it seems to be always women's matches.

They showed Radwanska vs McHale which was on court 2 over Thiem vs Simon which was court 1; and they showed none of Del Potro vs Gulbis which would have definitely been widely watched.

all the matches are on the red button so you can chose to watch which ever match you want
i guess you just cant make everyone happy

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:07 pm

What's going on with Gillou?
I miss his old self...

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:13 pm

Rubi is going to be fantastic once he relaxes a bit.

Superb shots. Not so superb footwork.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:18 pm

I am not watching....travelling back from brighton.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:21 pm

Rubi needs to improve his returns asap.
Losing some cheap points.

Superior player to Ramos but needs polish. He goes for every shot even when he is far from the ball.

Lendl would be a great coach for him.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:22 pm

Tenez wrote:I am not watching....travelling back from brighton.

You must be cooking!

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Post by bogbrush on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:23 pm

Go on Colonel!!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:25 pm

I understand Medv s behaviour as i probably coukd have done the same at his age. He was over the moon two days ago and the fall may have been diffucult to manage at that age. I have not seen the event but I think he may have been shoked by some error and may have felt it was personal even if it was not.

He is young lets not forget about it.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:28 pm

Rublev beat Ramos in Halle but then that was faster conds. Here i am not surprised to see Nadal, ramos Vinola and even Ferrer doing well.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:32 pm

Tenez wrote:Rublev beat Ramos in Halle but then that was faster conds. Here i am not surprised to see Nadal, ramos Vinola and even Ferrer doing well.
Rubi is only a break of serve down.
He started the match serving, didn't see that game, probably nervous.

Ramos just called the trainer. Serving for the set.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:34 pm

And Rubi breaks back. 5:5.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:39 pm

...and gets broken back to love. All self-inflicted.
But you're right.
Conditions should not allow Ramos to play his dull 1d game on grass.
He takes the first set.

Rubi now needs to learn to take his foot off the gas. He can't play/survive full on like this on pro tour.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:48 pm

Ramos has actually a great FH...but he remains a eeal claycourter

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Tenez wrote:Ramos has actually a great FH...but he remains a eeal claycourter
Well it's clean and flat but only goes cc and inside our with it.

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Post by DECIMA on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Tenez, which Spaniard do you think has the best forehand?

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:57 pm

Rubi's brain is still in juniors circuit.

Still he breaks in the 2nd.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:57 pm

DECIMA wrote:Tenez, which Spaniard do you think has the best forehand?
Verdasco.

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Post by Daniel on Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:02 pm

M Zverev being taken to 5 sets really helps out for Fed.  But it's Dimitrov round 4 that is going to be a real problem.  He'll need to come playing near his best by looks of it, should they meet. Murray isn't going to be having fun either in R4 and beyond.


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Re: Wimbledon Day 4

Post by Veejay on Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:03 pm

woah what a win by rybarikova!!
sorry johnny mac,youre wrong again! 
pliskova the favourite out...
incredible story by rybarikova,coming back from injury and working her way back to beating the most inform player on tour
shame you cant say the same for sour puss

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Djokovic's draw has really opened up. He must be a shoe in for the semi

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