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Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:23 pm

Martin Klizan (33)
v
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2]

Alexandr Dolgopolov (13)
v
Roger Federer (SUI) [3]

Milos Raonic (CAN) [6]
v
Jan-Lennard Struff (33)

Dominic Thiem (AUT) [8]
v
Vasek Pospisil (33)

Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) [10]
v
Thanasi Kokkinakis (14)

Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [9]
v
Jelena Jankovic (19)

Jeremy Chardy (33)
v
Tomas Berdych (CZE) [11]

Evgeny Donskoy (20)
v
Alexander Zverev (GER) [10]

Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) [13]
v
Diego Schwartzman (33)

Taylor Fritz (33)
v
John Isner (USA) [23]


I see Zverev and Dimi as possible upsets.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:41 pm


Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2]

Roger Federer (SUI) [3]

Milos Raonic (CAN) [6]

Dominic Thiem (AUT) [8]

Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) [10]

Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) [9]

Tomas Berdych (CZE) [11]

Evgeny Donskoy (20)

Diego Schwartzman (33)

John Isner (USA) [23]


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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by gallery play on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:30 pm

Klizan
Federer
Raonic
Pospisil
Delpotro
Radwanska
Berdych
Zverev
Dimitrov
Isner

Upset: Thiem

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:54 pm

Rourtes to finals revisited:

Djoko:
Klizan, Escobedo, Delpotro, Monfils or Lopez, Berdych, Fed

Fed: Dolgo , Lajo, M. Zverev, Dimi, Rao, Djoko

Murray: Quali, Brown, Foggi, Kyrgios, Tsonga/Waw/Verdy, Nadal

Nadal: Millman, Young, Khacha, Karlo/Muller, Nishi/Cilic, Murray

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:55 pm

Murray has now the easiest draw by far.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by luvsports! on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:40 pm

Klizan (33)
Dolgo (13)
Struff (33)
Pospisil (33)
Delpo (10)
Radwanska (9)
Berd (11)
Zverev (10)
Dimi (13)
Isner (23)

Mikey:
Novak
Roger
Raonic
Thiem
Delpo
Radwanska
Berdych
Zverev
Dimi
Isner


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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Tenez wrote:Murray has now the easiest draw by far.
Probably just as well as Nadal will be there.

Anyone else uneasy about Federer tomorrow? What's happened to Dolgo, he could play.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Slippy on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:50 pm

Tenez wrote:Rourtes to finals revisited:

Djoko:
Klizan, Escobedo, Delpotro, Monfils or Lopez, Berdych, Fed

Fed: Dolgo , Lajo, M. Zverev, Dimi, Rao, Djoko

Murray: Quali, Brown, Foggi, Kyrgios, Tsonga/Waw/Verdy, Nadal

Nadal: Millman, Young, Khacha, Karlo/Muller, Nishi/Cilic, Murray
I know he doesn't have great grass court pedigree but Thiem still seems more likely than Berdych to make QF. Given the thumping he gave Novak there, he would be a much trickier match up than Berd. 

Murray still has Pouille in R4 - could still be very tough for him.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:53 pm

bogbrush wrote:
Tenez wrote:Murray has now the easiest draw by far.
Probably just as well as Nadal will be there.

Anyone else uneasy about Federer tomorrow? What's happened to Dolgo, he could play.
I saw a bit of Murray today. He is badly injured. Bublik with a bit of focus coudl have done much more damage but he was so emotional to be on CC that he coudl not concentrate.

I think Murray might get passed Brown but not Foggi or Tsonga.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:58 am

Good luck Roger!

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by luvsports! on Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:46 am

T:
Klizan
dolgo
Struff
Pospisil
Delpo
Radwanska
Chardy
Zverev
Schwartzman
Fritz

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by luvsports! on Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:49 am

B:
Klizan
Feds
Raonic
Pospisil
delpo
radwank
berdych
zverev
dimi
isner

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Daniel on Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:39 am

Martin Klizan (33)
v
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2]

Djokovic should beat Klizan 80%

Alexandr Dolgopolov (13)
v
Roger Federer (SUI) [3]

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%.

Milos Raonic (CAN) [6]
v
Jan-Lennard Struff (33)

Raonic should batter him 95%.

Dominic Thiem (AUT) [8]
v
Vasek Pospisil (33)

Thiem should beat him 80%

Juan Martin Del Potro (ARG) [10]
v
Thanasi Kokkinakis (14)

Del Potro should batter him 90%

Jeremy Chardy (33)
v
Tomas Berdych (CZE) [11]

Berdych should win 80%

Evgeny Donskoy (20)
v
Alexander Zverev (GER) [10]

Zverev should batter him 98%

Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) [13]
v
Diego Schwartzman (33)

Dimitrov should beat him 90%

Taylor Fritz (33)
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John Isner (USA) [23]

Isner should beat him 90%

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:03 pm

Daniel wrote:

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%..  

Then I am insane.

Alex D. hasn't got a chance.

I love Dolgo, but when it comes to winning, there is more to it that flashy shots.

I hope we see the best of both players.

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Post by Daniel on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:06 pm

Yes, you are. It's the first round and he does have a chance. On a given day, he is a handful. He isn't a player you want to be playing in R1 of Wimbledon.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:11 pm

Actually, Dolgo is almost a perfect r1 opponent for Fed: a shotmaker who does not rely on fitness.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:20 pm

... wrote:
Daniel wrote:

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%..  

Then I am insane..
You just said on the other thread that Nole touched the net because of Rafa's satanic rituals. Of course you are insane.

Still, you are right about Dolgo's chances.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:25 pm

summerblues wrote:
... wrote:
Daniel wrote:

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%..  

Then I am insane..
You just said on the other thread that Nole touched the net because of Rafa's satanic rituals.  Of course you are insane.

Still, you are right about Dolgo's chances.

If i were you I wouldn't talk about things you don't seem to know much about.
Stick to your digits and stats.

It's so safe and approved of the masses, so you must be ok.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by DECIMA on Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:36 pm

summerblues wrote:
... wrote:

Then I am insane..
You just said on the other thread that Nole touched the net because of Rafa's satanic rituals.  Of course you are insane.

That's extremely rude, can you apologise? Well known fact Rafa's satanic rituals not only made Djokovic fall over and touch the net but also made the Wimbledon draw makers fall over and keep putting easy names in Nadal's side.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by bogbrush on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:02 pm

Gasket might as well pack up. Nobody loses to Daveeed Ferrer any more.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Agree. Gasquet is such a wasted hope. I cant believe i backed him up for years to do something remarquable.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:09 pm

Tomic out to Mischa Zverev. Mischa and Sasha have so different games, if I were the father I would be asking for DNA paternity tests.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:14 pm

summerblues wrote:Tomic out to Mischa Zverev.  Mischa and Sasha have so different games, if I were the father I would be asking for DNA paternity tests.
Laugh
yeah or who inherited of the balls?

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by bogbrush on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:21 pm

Nice to see the Colonel doing well so far, I still hope for a 17th meeting with Federer. An entertaining player in his day.

JMDP sadly slipping away by the look of it.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Daniel on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:27 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Khachanov

This is the guy who will prove a real challenge for Nadal, if Young doesn't do the business. He's 6 feet 6, won his first ATP title last year.  Nadal's short balls will be eaten up.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by bogbrush on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:35 pm

I hope so. His 1st round was dodgy but he looked very good against Federer at Halle.

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Post by Daniel on Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:41 pm

He was also impressive at French Open. Beaten by Murray, but that's not a surface you'd expect him to go far on. He beat Isner and berdych at the FO too.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:28 pm

... wrote:
Daniel wrote:

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%..  

Then I am insane.

Alex D. hasn't got a chance.

I love Dolgo, but when it comes to winning, there is more to it that flashy shots.

I hope we see the best of both players.

Exactly

Federer will beat him easily


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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:44 pm

Is anyone else finding that the sound is delayed on the BBC? I'm watching on the website

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:57 pm

Emancipator wrote:Is anyone else finding that the sound is delayed on the BBC? I'm watching on the website
FInally tuning in now, sound is ok, just can't find Rublev match.

Shame Delpo keeps being drawn with Nole all the time.

Wow, so strange seeing Agassi and Ancic in his box!

Well better than Pepe and Marko Laugh

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:03 pm

could Klizan do a Rosol.. just have that feeling.

Sound ok now

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:05 pm

Emancipator wrote:could Klizan do a Rosol.. just have that feeling.

Sound ok now
No chance.

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:07 pm

Probably not.. apparently he's carrying an injury

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:09 pm

How kind of Stephen Fry to bring his grandson along...

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:10 pm

That's annoying he's come in carrying an injury and is limping from the start. They should withhold his prize money.

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:26 pm

Klizan should just retire

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:26 pm

... wrote:How kind of Stephen Fry to bring his grandson along...

Stephen Fry.. yuck .. what an odious creature.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:30 pm

Players are rarely 100%.

Stan, Murray, Kurgios...they were the obvious ones yesterday.

They go out and have a go.

You can't blame them for it.

Klizan is playing better than Milliman yesterday.

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:31 pm

But he can't even move. Novak has been poor so far but then he probably knows he just needs to keep the ball in play.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by gallery play on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:31 pm

summerblues wrote:
... wrote:
Daniel wrote:

Anyone who thinks Dolgopolov is a push over is insane. He has the ability to beat Federer on a given day and is a nightmare for a first round opponent.  You'd still expect Federer to win.  I think in 4 sets.  80%..  

Then I am insane..
You just said on the other thread that Nole touched the net because of Rafa's satanic rituals.  Of course you are insane.

Still, you are right about Dolgo's chances.
Laugh

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Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:34 pm

Klizan's got weapons. Big serve big FH, coulda been a rafa killer if he were fit.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:42 pm

I did not know Klizan was injured and I was even quite looking forward to this match. But this is pathetic, the guy barely walks.

There should be some way to take prize money away from people who enter the tournament knowing they have no chance to play properly. A qualifier would have been more interesting to watch.

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Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:44 pm

On the plus side, I will get to watch Federer.

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Post by gallery play on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:46 pm

No change for Dolgo. And i'm not insane, i think.

Dolgo's favorite surface is clay, he never won a set of Federer, never did something special on grass, recent form is poor ect ect.
What is he going to do? Tickle Federer with his ponytail?

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:48 pm

summerblues wrote:I did not know Klizan was injured and I was even quite looking forward to this match.  But this is pathetic, the guy barely walks.

There should be some way to take prize money away from people who enter the tournament knowing they have no chance to play properly.  
A qualifier would have been more interesting to watch.

I disagree.

The guy has earnt his right to play and be paid for it.

The rules could be changed that a not fully fit player who can't endure the match gives a paid w/o and the LL gets a chance.

Slams are loaded and would feel even the sligthest financial dent.

It's not an easy situation for anyone.

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Emancipator on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:50 pm

Flashy players usually get destroyed by Federer. Fed makes them look stupid with his clinical efficiency. It's the road runners that have caused him problems over the years

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Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:56 pm

Nitb, I would be ok with that too. Either pay them even if they don't play or do not pay them if they play while obviously incapable of playing. Either solution is fine with me. The current setup is bad though as it induces players to just show up because of the money they would have to give up otherwise.

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:59 pm

gallery play wrote:No change for Dolgo. And i'm not insane, i think.

Dolgo's favorite surface is clay, he never won a set of Federer, never did something special on grass, recent form is poor ect ect.
What is he going to do? Tickle Federer with his ponytail?
I don;t think he has much chance either. But the guy has talent, he has potential, nothing to lose and is coming back from injury.

I think I expect this to be closer than most think...even if 3 sets...coudl be 3 close sets.

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Post by noleisthebest on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:02 pm

Scary to recognise same fan faces in the crowd. Yikes

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Re: Wimbledon Day 2

Post by Tenez on Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:02 pm

summerblues wrote:Nitb, I would be ok with that too.  Either pay them even if they don't play or do not pay them if they play while obviously incapable of playing.  Either solution is fine with me.  The current setup is bad though as it induces players to just show up because of the money they would have to give up otherwise.
I agree it's frustrating. But then again, Murray should not play either if you think about it. Injured as he is he has 0 chances of winning.

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