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Re: Fight for #1

Post by summerblues on Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:33 am

This is slightly off-topic, but I will add it here.

While it is lovely that Fed is winning AO and making at least SF at Wimbledon at age 35, it made me a little scared too - what if other players can last that long?  How about another six or so slams from Rafa or Nole? Yikes

So I looked at the ranking and found one encouraging thing.  It seems that attacking players are more able to last through ripe age.  There are currently these seven 33+ year old players in top 50:

38: Karlovic
35: Federer, Lopez, Lorenzi, Ferrer
34: Muller
33: Verdasco

Ferrer is still there - but only just and way off his best (currently #39, highest ranking #3).

Lorenzi is the only truly bothersome case - currently at career-high #33 and while I do not remember his game (though I was in the stadium when he played Andy at the USO last year) I believe he is a clay courter.

But all of the other ones are either attackers or big hitters.  So maybe Rafa and Nole will not last that long after all.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:56 am

There is no chance of the others lasting anything like this long. There's an outside chance Federer might even outlast some of them.

The roadrunners are burning themselves out.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:48 am

Since the open era the retrievers have had an ealier but shorter career : Borg, Wilander, Chang, Hewitt, etc...but after what we saw at the FO this year i m sure of nothing.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by legendkillar on Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:52 am

Their longevity for me will be determined by the strength of the field. Whilst Federer's year has been off the scale and nothing short of amazing, it's still disappointing that the upcoming players are nowhere near closer to bridging the gap to the point I'd say with certainty that this 'era' is dawning to a close.

What I find scary but at the same time tantalising is the thought that Federer could not only reclaim the Number 1 spot, but could win 3 Slams this year for the first time in 10 years! That would be right up there as surely the most amazing feat in sport.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:13 pm

500 points behind Nadal. Have to feel it's a strong possibility going into the HC season.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:48 pm

Yeah. He'll miss Canada or Cincy (probably Canada) then be careful up to London.

Rafa best chance is to play everything but I doubt he will, he needs to be dareful too.

#1 at 36, after giving everyone else the clay season for free? Ridiculous.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:01 pm

Straight race between him and Nadal.

Fed has to be favourite. This has traditionally been his strongest part of the season. If he continues with this form he's gonna be a beast on the indoor courts.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by break_in_the_fifth on Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:13 pm

Nah clay season is long as anything and Nadal got all the points besides he's the only one that's swept all the surfaces.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:11 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:Nah clay season is long as anything and Nadal got all the points besides he's the only one that's swept all the surfaces.
Don't get your drift. Are you saying Nadal or Federer is likely to win?

The race position is Nadal 7095, Federer 6545. Clay is behind then.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:13 pm

Don't see any reason for Nadal  to skip US season, if anything he needs it more then Fed to end no:1, and he does not seem injured or anything, sure might want to save himself a little for USO.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:37 pm

I think Rafa will do what he does and flog himself to get it.

Fed will pace himself and, hopefully, win what he enters and sew it up. I couldn't see how he wins the USO and fail to be #1. It'd be moral #1 anyway.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by ... on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:42 pm

Well today's win must be a death knoll to Nadal's GOAT hopes.
I just hope Nole somehow overtakes him in slam count,

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by legendkillar on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:51 pm

bogbrush wrote:I think Rafa will do what he does and flog himself to get it.

Fed will pace himself and, hopefully, win what he enters and sew it up. I couldn't see how he wins the USO and fail to be #1. It'd be moral #1 anyway.

Potentially could be facing a US hard court swing without either Murray or Djokovic. If that were the case I'd expect Roger to play Canada/Cinncy. I look at it he could do well in the US swing, take out the Asia swing. Play Basel and then head to London. 

Pressure surely on Rafa to make significant gains.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:04 pm

Yeah, just got a worry that in this form he wins Canada & Cincy and arrives in New York a bit jaded.

It would be good to miss Asia I agree. One thing we know is he won't overplay.

Could be all down to London. That's be intense.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by break_in_the_fifth on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:05 pm

Just messing around with that last bit, though Nadal does still have a lot of points and Fed needs to continue to outperform him whereas had Nadal not done so well it would already be a done deal.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:08 pm

Oh sure, he's in the lead all right.

In the end it's a case of forgetting the defending points stuff it's just winning the race gets you y/e #1.

Historically Rafas not exceeded Fed from here on even (I think) in his best years but who knows, especially if Federer continues to trim his schedule.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by break_in_the_fifth on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:11 pm

Is Federer going to trim his schedule that much though? It's not like he's played so much so far. Is Canada, Cinci and then US open too much? Those courts are faster. He doesn't even need to win Canada.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:22 pm

You're probably right. I just don't want the spell to break, and now I'm getting insanely greedy for #20.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:25 pm

20 at USO, 21 at AO, 22 at W, and he should quit.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:29 pm

You missed out 22 at Roland Garros and 23 at Wimbledon.

At but that would leave him one shy of 10 at Wimbledon, so he'd have to go on. Laugh

Seriously, I doubt he'll do that kind of "retire at the top" thing. I reckon he'll play until it's obvious he's done, or until the family call time.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:32 pm

I missed 22 at RG in purpose, he should ignore it again, devalue it  Laugh

USO and WTF for me this year and enough please!! Maybe Shanghai for Rolex?

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:34 pm

Yeah, diss the FO, tell Nadal he can have that one to himself.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:35 pm

Yeah leave FO as Nadals Basel/Halle, no one cares except a few Spaniards.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:50 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:Is Federer going to trim his schedule that much though? It's not like he's played so much so far. Is Canada, Cinci and then US open too much? Those courts are faster. He doesn't even need to win Canada.

He's said the plan is to play a full schedule for the rest of the season and he's down as starting for Canada too which suggests to me that he will play there. He could always skip Cinci if he wins in Canada. Of course his matches in Cinci rarely take more than an hour each  Winking

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:56 pm

Crazy that with only points from 7 tournaments he's number 3 in the rankings.

Murray has just over 1000 more points from about 17 tournaments!!

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:42 pm

As impressive as Fed s win was today, especially without losing a set. I think his wins are very fragile in the sense every set he loses compromises his chance of recovery and keep high level for the next round. Nowadays he simply can t afford a bad day or a lack of concentration.

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Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:46 pm

But Australia? Three 5-setters? And playing Rafa at the end and going 5 with him?

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:11 pm

As i said Australia was perfectly distributed. Easy till nishi then an easy 1/4F v Misha before Stan and very importantly  2 days rest before final....without counting the fact he had not played fo r 6 month. And after the AO he was so tired that he pulled of everything till Dubai and i suspect  that in Dubai he was not even 100pc still as he let that match slip from MP up.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by summerblues on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:13 pm

BB, the way I see it, Tenez is so encouraged and hopeful for the USO that he already now sees the need to preemptively jinx.

There are many crazy things about this year's Fed, and one of them is the fact that (unlike in 2015) his wins do not look fragile at all. As you said, he did three 5-setters at AO, all against guys who themselves can go five, and won them all.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:16 pm

I can't criticise, I managed to convince myself today was going to be knife edge. 

I'm also fretting about him playing both Canada and Cincy and winning both going into New York. Perhaps it would take him to win all three to convince me, finally, that this Federer is for real.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by summerblues on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:17 pm

Tenez, the guy played three 5-setters at AO and looked as good as new at the end of his match with Rafa. No matter how those were distributed, that is an amazing feat. Sure, he is 36 and will not recover as easily as at 26, but he is looking very solid this year.

Still, my preference would be for him to skip Canada just to make sure he does not overplay before the USO - trying to win that is bigger than #1 chase - and only focus on #1 after the USO if he thinks he can have a good shot without killing himself.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:21 pm

If he wins in New York, he'll be #1.

Hell, it's probably illegal for anyone else to be called #1 if someone else has 3 Slams in a year. Or it should be.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by summerblues on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:23 pm

bogbrush wrote:
I'm also fretting about him playing both Canada and Cincy and winning both going into New York. Perhaps it would take him to win all three to convince me, finally, that this Federer is for real.
Now that I said that Tenez was just jinxing I will turn 180 degrees and say that I am not so sure he should play all three.  He is 36, after all.  Something has to give.  To me he looks solid in the tournaments he plays, but it could well be that a big reason is that he does not play too many.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:24 pm

I'm just enjoying the ride while it lasts.

I mean this is ridiculous. He's doing a 2006 or a Djokovic 2015 and he's gonna be 36 in a couple of weeks.

It's gonna end at some point but for now he looks sensational. I'm excited to see what he brings to the faster HCs in the next portion of the season and then also indoors.

The guy won on the treacle slow courts of Miami and IWs - he could be in even more beast mode for the rest of the year.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Emancipator on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm

summerblues wrote:Tenez, the guy played three 5-setters at AO and looked as good as new at the end of his match with Rafa.  No matter how those were distributed, that is an amazing feat.  Sure, he is 36 and will not recover as easily as at 26, but he is looking very solid this year.

Still, my preference would be for him to skip Canada just to make sure he does not overplay before the USO - trying to win that is bigger than #1 chase  - and only focus on #1 after the USO if he thinks he can have a good shot without killing himself.

I agree.

The USO is huge. Nadal is playing well enough that he could win it. Based on current form only Federer would probably start as favourite against him. If Federer does win the USO then I think his slam lead would be pretty much unassailable.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by ... on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm

I think people u derestimate how physical tennis is these days, and what Federer has achieved this year is a miracle.

The way I see it, every tournament he plays these days is a bonus.

People should not get carried away.

Personally, I'd love him to crown 2017 with a number one spot.

He won two slams this year, so who if not him?

(mind you Nole won two slams last year plus a slam amd wtf final and Murray still managed to overtake him with only one!)

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm

Not worried for USA at all, best of 3, faster courts, 1 week each, if he wins 1 of Masters there good enough, if not even 2 SF or Finals are welcome before USO.

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Post by Jahu on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:29 pm

... wrote:I think people u derestimate how physical tennis is these days, and what Federer has achieved this year is a miracle.

The way I see it, every tournament he plays these days is a bonus.

People should not get carried away.

Personally, I'd love him to crown 2017 with a number one spot.

He won two slams this year, so who if not him?

(mind you Nole won two slams last year plus a slam amd wtf final and Murray still managed to overtake him with only one!)

Only cause Djokos 2015 was crazy, and 2016 not so crazy, so Djoko let himself be overtaken.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Daniel on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:29 pm

I can't see Djok or Murray doing it due to injury and points to defend.  This is between Nadal and Fed, but you'd think Federer is favourite given it's the HC part of the season.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:37 pm

summerblues wrote:Tenez, the guy played three 5-setters at AO and looked as good as new at the end of his match with Rafa.  No matter how those were distributed, that is an amazing feat.  Sure, he is 36 and will not recover as easily as at 26, but he is looking very solid this year.
honestly you are mistaking here. He was dead on his feet....as soon as the adrenaline stopped its effect. He even said he could not lift his children.

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Post by summerblues on Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:11 am

Obviously, I do not mean it literally.  He just won the AO beating Rafa over 5 sets coming back from a break down.  It had to be draining physically and emotionally.  I would hope he would be exhausted, anything else would not be normal.

But what I mean is that he was still playing very well in that fifth set.  This was his third 5-setter of the tournament, and he had to come back from a break down vs - of all people - Rafa.  And he managed to produce some of his best tennis of the tournament in the set.  That does not meet my definition of fragile wins.  Those are very robust wins.

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Post by summerblues on Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:17 am

I can think of two reasons why Fed this year looks more robust than in say 2015:

First, he is managing his schedule very carefully and allowing for plenty of rest.

Second, his base level of play is far better.  For example, in 2015 USO he looked good and was easily winning his matches up to the final, but I think he had to put much more mental effort to win those matches "easily".  He needed to play much closer to his top gear, to avoid dropping sets and getting entangled in long battles.  As a result, even those 3-setters were more tiring than they would look based on scores alone.  This year in Wimbledon, I do not think he ever felt he needed to switch to top gear.  In the first week, he was barely into second gear, so to speak, and then upped it a little bit vs Dimi/Rao/Berdych, but even there he was able to play many points quite relaxed and loose knowing he could always step it up if needed.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Well now he could recapture the #1 position at Canada. Assuming Murray doesnt play, if he won it and Nadal went out before the quarters he tops the rankings.

If he played Cincy as well his chances improve further as Nadal has a small but non-trivial 90 points to defend.

If he plays both I think he could be #1 seed at the USO. 

That said I think he'll skip one.


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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:05 pm

The good think is that it is likely all TDs will want to have him and they know he will pick and choose the fastest surfaces.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:08 pm

Good point. He's now the story, probably for the first time in over a decade.

Is it too late for the USO to decide to join the party and take some of that grit out of the paint?

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Daniel on Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:11 pm

The US Open has been a curse to Fed in the last decade or so. I really hope he breaks it this year, because time really is running out - despite how stupidly talented he is.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by summerblues on Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:48 am

Finally, in his old days Fed has learned how to downplay his chances:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/17/sport/federer-wimbledon-us-open-grand-slam-twenty/index.html

That would be a joke, if I won three slams this year out of nowhere.  I know if I stay in shape there are chances for me to do well at the US Open, but to win it? Yeah, at some stage I almost feel like I have to be realistic.  I am not 25 anymore. I'm not sure I can win three slams in one year. Winning two is already pretty crazy and plenty good enough for me.

In the past, he seemed to prefer the opposite approach - happily carrying the mantle of the favorite.  I thought it was just adding unnecessary pressure on him.  This year, he has been good downplaying his chances - at the AO, before Wimbledon and now here before the USO.

So, hopefully it means he wins it. smiley

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by bogbrush on Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:36 am

This is a new weapon. Play it down, take the pressure off. Surprised he didn't talk about looking forward to taking the twins into the city, or some other domestic distraction.

He's as focused for this as anything.

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Post by ... on Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:53 am

summerblues wrote:Finally, in his old days Fed has learned how to downplay his chances:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/17/sport/federer-wimbledon-us-open-grand-slam-twenty/index.html

That would be a joke, if I won three slams this year out of nowhere.  I know if I stay in shape there are chances for me to do well at the US Open, but to win it? Yeah, at some stage I almost feel like I have to be realistic.  I am not 25 anymore. I'm not sure I can win three slams in one year. Winning two is already pretty crazy and plenty good enough for me.

In the past, he seemed to prefer the opposite approach - happily carrying the mantle of the favorite.  I thought it was just adding unnecessary pressure on him.  This year, he has been good downplaying his chances - at the AO, before Wimbledon and now here before the USO.

So, hopefully it means he wins it. smiley

I think he is genuinelly downplaying his chances, mainly because of his body and the physicality of current game.

It's not easy for him to turn on the form on tap like that and "just do it".

As I said in an earlier post, one little thing out of synch and he is not flying but grinding.

And he doesn't want to grind.

His spirit will carry him, but the body will quickly fall apart.

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Re: Fight for #1

Post by Tenez on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:13 am

I agree NITB. He has almost the added pressure to win everythng in 3. This is amazing how he managed to win that TB v Raonic from 3 love down (double mini break). Imagine if he had lost those 2 TBs v Berdych....

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