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Post by ... on Wed May 17, 2017 1:47 pm

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/rule-changes-innovation-for-next-gen-atp-finals-2017

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Post by Veejay on Wed May 17, 2017 2:23 pm

dont like what im reading..its just a trail so hopefully they will come to their senses sooner rather then later 
what event is this anyway?
i thought the end of season was the one in london top 8 players..
havent heard of this event for under 21 players

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Post by bogbrush on Wed May 17, 2017 4:40 pm

Death of tennis.

All done by money people with no respect for the game.

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Post by AceofDeath on Wed May 17, 2017 5:20 pm

This would stop the stamina freaks from tiring opponents out so much if it came to main tour. This is a good step in the right direction.

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Post by AceofDeath on Wed May 17, 2017 5:22 pm

bogbrush wrote:Death of tennis.

All done by money people with no respect for the game.
Death of tennis is when stamina freaks outlast attacking/s+v players.

I like the direction this is heading in Cheers

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Post by Jahu on Wed May 17, 2017 6:06 pm

Does not sound bad? Whats the prob?

Better attacking player to win quicker then a moonballer runner 5h matches.

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Post by Emancipator on Wed May 17, 2017 6:39 pm

Awful. Makes it a complete lottery.

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Post by bogbrush on Wed May 17, 2017 7:32 pm

AceofDeath wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Death of tennis.

All done by money people with no respect for the game.
Death of tennis is when stamina freaks outlast attacking/s+v players.

I like the direction this is heading in Cheers
There are far better ways to solve than than removing all the twists and complexity from the sport.

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 17, 2017 9:21 pm

Jahu wrote:Does not sound bad? Whats the prob?

Better attacking player to win quicker then a moonballer runner 5h matches.
That's a good point actually. 

I understand that this is only for this fake "newgen" tournament, correct?

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Post by ... on Wed May 17, 2017 11:37 pm

This is the key paragraph:

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"The rule changes, aimed at creating a high-tempo, cutting-edge, and TV-friendly product, are geared towards attracting new and younger fans into the sport, while at the same time retaining the sport’s traditional fan-base."

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The glorious, lush game of tennis is being turning into 99p pot noodles.

After watching 5 set slam finals featuring Federer, we shall be reduced to penalty shoot-outs by the likes of Kyrgios, Fritzes, Zverev etc...

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Post by Tenez on Wed May 17, 2017 11:49 pm

... wrote:This is the key paragraph:

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"The rule changes, aimed at creating a high-tempo, cutting-edge, and TV-friendly product, are geared towards attracting new and younger fans into the sport, while at the same time retaining the sport’s traditional fan-base."

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The glorious, lush game of tennis is being turning into 99p pot noodles.

After watching 5 set slam finals featuring Federer, we shall be reduced to penalty shoot-outs by the likes of Kyrgios, Fritzes, Zverev etc...
well doesn't say much.

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Post by ... on Thu May 18, 2017 12:12 am

Tenez wrote:
... wrote:This is the key paragraph:
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"The rule changes, aimed at creating a high-tempo, cutting-edge, and TV-friendly product, are geared towards attracting new and younger fans into the sport, while at the same time retaining the sport’s traditional fan-base."
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The glorious, lush game of tennis is being turning into 99p pot noodles.
After watching 5 set slam finals featuring Federer, we shall be reduced to penalty shoot-outs by the likes of Kyrgios, Fritzes, Zverev etc...
well doesn't say much.
Well it does to me.
All these changes coming because of TV rights...i.e. Americans.

Fast food, fast tennis.

Maybe I am exhaggerating, but why else have all,these changes been proposed?

Can you seriously imagine tennis played without then"let", first to 4 in a set etc...

They are inventing a new sport.


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Post by legendkillar on Thu May 18, 2017 1:04 pm

It's only a trial. Once they see the next gens can't grasp it, it will disappear. Look at the flop that was the ITPL. Stick with tradition.

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Post by Emancipator on Thu May 18, 2017 2:54 pm

... wrote:
Tenez wrote:
... wrote:This is the key paragraph:
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"The rule changes, aimed at creating a high-tempo, cutting-edge, and TV-friendly product, are geared towards attracting new and younger fans into the sport, while at the same time retaining the sport’s traditional fan-base."
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The glorious, lush game of tennis is being turning into 99p pot noodles.
After watching 5 set slam finals featuring Federer, we shall be reduced to penalty shoot-outs by the likes of Kyrgios, Fritzes, Zverev etc...
well doesn't say much.
Well it does to me.
All these changes coming because of TV rights...i.e. Americans.

Fast food, fast tennis.

Maybe I am exhaggerating, but why else have all,these changes been proposed?

Can you seriously imagine tennis played without then"let", first to 4 in a set etc...

They are inventing a new sport.


I agree.

Too many changes at once. A couple I could live with - like the shot clock and limiting the warm up to exactly 5 mins - but others are ridiculous.

With tie-breaks at 3-3, you can guarantee that most sets will end with tie-breaks. It changes the whole dynamic of the match. One break of serve and the set is essentially over.

I wonder who comes out with these ideas and how they agree them? Do they canvas opinion amongst fans, because if they did, I'm pretty sure they would've got a negative reaction.

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Post by Veejay on Thu May 18, 2017 3:32 pm

sounds like its being altered to accommodate or cater for those with very limited attention span just for better viewer ratings..
i reckon that its a very american way of looking at how sports should be played
americans sports like american football and basket ball where points are being scored every few minutes or even seconds rather then like with soccer that could go an entire match with a single goal being scored 
by trying to appeal to a broader demographic,they could end up losing the demographic that already exists

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Post by summerblues on Fri May 19, 2017 1:28 am

Emancipator wrote:A couple I could live with - like the shot clock and limiting the warm up to exactly 5 mins - but others are ridiculous.
When I initially read it, these were exactly the two changes where I thought "yeah, I could maybe live with those".  The rest was rubbish.

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Post by bogbrush on Fri May 19, 2017 12:58 pm

People do have attention span, it's when they're told they don't and are given a highlights sport that they tend away from the real game.

It's bonkers; the same set of people who gave us endless retrieval and slow courts & balls now get to tell us the sport needs changing to take less time.

Did none of them watch the Australian Open? Federer played three 5 set matches that lasted 3hr 23m, 3hr 4m and 3hr 37m - the last involving Nadal, a notoriously slow player. Exactly who lacks the mental faculties to watch that long? Especially since every two games you can get up and grab a drink or whatever.

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Post by Tenez on Fri May 19, 2017 1:57 pm

Dont wanna say but it's an American thing. Anyone who watched a basket or baseball match over there knows what I am talking about...i guess the advertising world forced that upon them.

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Post by Veejay on Fri May 19, 2017 4:45 pm

bogbrush wrote:People do have attention span, it's when they're told they don't and are given a highlights sport that they tend away from the real game.

It's bonkers; the same set of people who gave us endless retrieval and slow courts & balls now get to tell us the sport needs changing to take less time.

Did none of them watch the Australian Open? Federer played three 5 set matches that lasted 3hr 23m, 3hr 4m and 3hr 37m - the last involving Nadal, a notoriously slow player. Exactly who lacks the mental faculties to watch that long? Especially since every two games you can get up and grab a drink or whatever.
the irony of it all...but maybe this is the change to the game they believe is needed which they are hoping will propel the next generation to the top of the game cause it doesnt look like they are ever going to do it on their own,with the way the game is played right now

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Post by summerblues on Sat May 20, 2017 1:44 am

Tenez wrote:Dont wanna say but it's an American thing. Anyone who watched a basket or baseball match over there knows what I am talking about...i guess the advertising world forced that upon them.
Americans have bad reputation for such things, but I do not think this is just an American thing - did not cricket also go through similar (and even much more significant) dumbing down?  Also, baseball is very slow-paced and has always been, yet Americans never really made any big changes to its rules.

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Post by luvsports! on Sat May 20, 2017 9:53 am

Don't talk to a Frenchie about cricket Winking

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Post by Tenez on Sat May 20, 2017 1:07 pm

Is that an insect?

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