Re: ATP Masters 1000: Madrid

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 8:30 am

No Goffin won't keep it up for 2 sets.
To me Dimi is more creative and talented than Thiem but also a tiny bit less settled mentally and that makes him a weaker player....even if able of a higher level.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 9:06 am

Tenez wrote:It's probably his elbow still hurting.

I saw one last game, and he was playing just like before he piled the muscles on, couldn't muscle the ball.

Was an easy job for Coric.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 9:07 am

TMF wrote:Nadal battering Nick.

Or more, Kyrgios folded into his gutless/tank mode as he saw he couldn't win.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 9:09 am

summerblues wrote:Nadal vs Goffin, take two. What do we think, does Goffin have a chance? I am not optimistic.

He should have a chance, the courts are fast, but Nadal is very physical again, so we'll see.
Shame we can't measure thr amount of muscle that goes into shots esp the serve.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 9:12 am

Nole-Nishi should be a very good match and a 50-50.

Nole is serving well and spreading the ball corner to corner fast & accurately, but may crack under pressure as he lacks the winning confidence atm.
Nishi striking the ball beautifully, this court suits him.
With him, it's the head...just can't cope with panic.

So...a good start essential for both.

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 10:35 am

Yes a good start is essential but again Nishi won't start! What a tanker!!! So disappointing. Anyhow the good news is that we will have the long due Nadal Nole match.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 11:07 am

I just sat down to see if it started and it's a w/o!
What happened?
A Uniqlo directive?

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 2:05 pm

Tenez wrote:Yes a good start is essential but again Nishi won't start! What a tanker!!! So disappointing. Anyhow the good news is that we will have the long due Nadal Nole match.

It is!
That was going to be the best match of the tournament, I looked forward to it...I can imagine poor ticket holding fans.

Nishi looked perfectly fine yesterday.

If he is carrying a chronic injury then it's wise he didn't aggravate it before a slam.

Still...you shouldn't be able to give w/o for that reason, I think.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 2:16 pm

Walkover GOAT list:

[link]
1 SUI Roger Federer 11
2 SRB Novak Djokovic 10 (+1 today)
3 GBR Andy Murray 9
4 ROU Ilie Nastase 8
4 ESP Rafael Nadal 8

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Oh I thought that was the of w.o. by player. Well one would expect Roger to top the list with such a long career.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 5:03 pm

I remember Federer receiving many from Tommy Haas, esp in Wimbledon.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 5:05 pm

Did anyone see the 1set?

How did Goffin lose it?

I can't believe how many shots Nadal needs to win a point...king of clay my foot!

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 5:28 pm

Did not but all the stats were in Nadal's favour which surprised me as I expected Nadal to grab it again by the skin of his teeth. So simply too strong for Goffun.

by Emancipator Fri May 12, 2017 5:29 pm

I'd like to see which players have withdrawn from the most matches. I suspect Nishi has withdrawn from a fair few. Anyway who cares. We know he's never gone win anything significant.

I reckon Nadal's gonna be too strong for Djokovic tomorrow. Rafa is now playing as well on clay as he was during 12-14 seasons.

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 5:34 pm

I reckon Djoko is going to win. If Dojoko loses it will be very close.

by Emancipator Fri May 12, 2017 5:37 pm

Djoko needs to find some form if he wants to win. Rafa is not gonna hand it to him with errors anymore - his game is tight now.

by noleisthebest Fri May 12, 2017 5:43 pm

Last time Nadal beat Nole was in 2014.

From what I saw of Nadal, his retrieving is back to his old days.

Mucho muscle, too.

Should be interesting.

by AceofDeath Fri May 12, 2017 5:44 pm

If 2016 Djokovic (the first half of it) appears then it's straight sets Novak
Probably be in 3 for Nadull the way Novak is playing Masters - ATP Masters 1000: Madrid - Page 2 2231271509

Masters - ATP Masters 1000: Madrid - Page 2 2231271509

by bogbrush Fri May 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Match ups. Djokovic can win this, even in his poor form.

Nadal still hasn't looked that good to me.

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 10:29 pm

I am watching Coric Thiem.

Thiem is actually a SHBH Nadal. Nothing else. So loopy and standing so far back, he makes Coric look like an agressive player.

by Tenez Fri May 12, 2017 10:44 pm

Madrid the worst TMS1000 Scheduling.

making teh second semi starting at 10pm, 6 hours after teh first one should be banned.

NOT BEFORE 4:00 PM
SF
(4)

Rafael Nadal
VS
(2)

Novak Djokovic
-
H2H
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM / WTA - SINGLES FINAL
F
(14)

Kristina Mladenovic
VS
(3)

Simona Halep
- WTA
NOT BEFORE 9:30 PM
SF
Borna Coric
or
Dominic Thiem
VS

Pablo Cuevas

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 12:30 am

Tenez wrote:Thiem is actually a SHBH Nadal. Nothing else. So loopy and standing so far back

Finally you see it. He is not as bad as Nadal, but he is standing way too far back and his game is certainly not pretty . That SHBH is really the only thing he has going for him, as far as I am concerned.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 12:31 am

I cannot believe I am back to rooting for Nole. I was hoping I would need not do that again.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 8:44 am

A SBH-er guaranteed in the final.

Check this out! Magic

by Tenez Sat May 13, 2017 9:50 am

beautiful as so simple.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 10:12 am

Yes, and after that shot he went on to bagel Zverev and eventually win the match.
Panache at its finest. Bubbly

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 10:15 am

summerblues wrote:I cannot believe I am back to rooting for Nole. I was hoping I would need not do that again.

Hehe, even I am having the same dilemma.

It's been so lovely being free and without blinkers....I really don't want to yoke myself with THAT again...however Nole appeared in my dream...maybe just for this match...I'll see how I go.

by Tenez Sat May 13, 2017 10:42 am

Yes the odds should be interesting.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 11:02 am

I am done with betting! Masters - ATP Masters 1000: Madrid - Page 2 3919515806

ps

haven't looked at the odds, but I reckon 60:40 for Nole.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:04 pm

... wrote:I am done with betting!

Good for you. Betting is for losers.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:06 pm

How is it nitb:

Idemo, Majstore!!! (?)

(apologies Jahu, but it cannot be helped)

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:09 pm

summerblues wrote:How is it nitb:

Idemo, Majstore!!! (?)

(apologies Jahu, but it cannot be helped)

IDEMOOOO!!! diva

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:19 pm

I have not seen Nole play in a while. Not looking very good at all in that first game. He will need to play much better than that.

by bogbrush Sat May 13, 2017 3:28 pm

Djokovic looks utter crap. He has nothing to trouble Nadal. Appears in deep decline.

I honestly now cannot see anyone other than Federer or Nadal as the year end #1.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:29 pm

At this rate, Nole will need a lot of hugs from Pepe when it is over.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:30 pm

3:0, just got home!

by luvsports! Sat May 13, 2017 3:30 pm

Djok 3-0 down already

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:31 pm

summerblues wrote:At this rate, Nole will need a lot of hugs from Pepe when it is over.

In a way I want him to be thrashed, just so I don't have to look at that ugly scum in the box.

by luvsports! Sat May 13, 2017 3:37 pm

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:38 pm

Yaaay, he gets a game!!!

As far as I can see, the "only" thing that's missing is confidence...amd what a difference that makes!

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:39 pm

Good to see Naste! Cool

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:39 pm

That may work for you nitb but I don't care about ugly scum in Nole's box, I just want Rafa to lose.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:41 pm

summerblues wrote:That may work for you nitb but I don't care about ugly scum in Nole's box, I just want Rafa to lose.

The ugly scum is a Buddhist and through "meditation" totally depleted Nole's warrior's spirit.

I don't know if that can be reverted, in fact.
I can't believe Nole fell for him. Really stupid.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:42 pm

Nole needs to rip a t-shirt asap! monster

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:49 pm

I don't know who gets on my nerves more guru or the brother...

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:50 pm

Fed would have no problem dispatching Nadal.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:52 pm

... wrote:Fed would have no problem dispatching Nadal.

That is easy to say. I am not so sure. Nadal is looking better now. The first match where I thought he looked close to his old form was against Thiem.

by summerblues Sat May 13, 2017 3:53 pm

... wrote:totally depleted Nole's warrior's spirit.

Normally that is all good with me, it is just today when it is bothering me.

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:53 pm

Did I hear a bark from Nole?

There may be hope!

by noleisthebest Sat May 13, 2017 3:55 pm

summerblues wrote:
... wrote:Fed would have no problem dispatching Nadal.
That is easy to say. I am not so sure. Nadal is looking better now. The first match where I thought he looked close to his old form was against Thiem.

Nadal is very beatable.
Nole os shocking.

A shadow of his old self.

Sad to see.

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