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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:01 pm
gallery play wrote:Good to see Nadal went a little into panic mode
He's not used to being on the end of losses to the same player. He can have a bit of the mental weakness for a change. It's delicious.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by noleisthebest Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:02 pm
Conditons are very tough, looks like it's quite hot and humid.
I don't think even Nadal is enjoying them.
I don't think even Nadal is enjoying them.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:03 pm
So pros and cons of Federer
Pros
Playing pretty well
Cons
1st serve down since Kyrgios
BP conversion is a bit lousy
It's all on Fed's racquet, as always. He has to just keep the standard up and maybe play the BPs better.
Pros
Playing pretty well
Cons
1st serve down since Kyrgios
BP conversion is a bit lousy
It's all on Fed's racquet, as always. He has to just keep the standard up and maybe play the BPs better.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:03 pm
Forehand winners:
Fed: 12
Nadal: 4
Who's your daddy?
Fed: 12
Nadal: 4
Who's your daddy?
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:04 pm
True, but better this than sunny and windy. For both actually.... wrote:Conditons are very tough, looks like it's quite hot and humid.
I don't think even Nadal is enjoying them.
First set was quite ok
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:06 pm
He's playing better than I thought he would. I mean, let's be honest, it's not the same standard as the other day and no-one expected that, but he's playing pretty solid. The 1st serve is my biggest gripe.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by AceofDeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:08 pm
What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:12 pm
AceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
Age. Same with Fed, but a. he's the greatest and defying all odds and b. He had a break and it's helped. It won't last, so we should enjoy it while we can.
Nearly all players stop playing their best post 27. It's that simple. Only very very few play anywhere near their prime in their 30s.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:16 pm
Fed's improved BH changed the dynamics between these twoAceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:17 pm
gallery play wrote:Fed's improved BH changed the dynamics between these twoAceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
You think this Nadal is as good as 5 years ago? Cause I don't.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by AceofDeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:17 pm
Could it be that Feds simply improved in multiple areas as he's got older? Can't win a grand slam and beat top 10 players if you 'stop playing your best' surely.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Jahu Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:19 pm
AceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
He and Djoko have gone clean.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:22 pm
AceofDeath wrote:Could it be that Feds simply improved in multiple areas as he's got older? Can't win a grand slam and beat top 10 players if you 'stop playing your best' surely.
You're underestimating Fed's best at 2004-7. It was better than this. And yeah, a Federer in 30s can do it playing near his best. Not often though, as his 30s tally clearly shows.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by AceofDeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:22 pm
Djokovic has too much fun with the nannyJahu wrote:AceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
He and Djoko have gone clean.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by noleisthebest Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:22 pm
Fed should move a step back on returns. Just a little.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Jahu Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:23 pm
Oh ffs, again same shit what happened 13 years ago
Live match
Live match
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by AceofDeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:24 pm
His FH probably was better, not his BH and serve for me.Daniel wrote:AceofDeath wrote:Could it be that Feds simply improved in multiple areas as he's got older? Can't win a grand slam and beat top 10 players if you 'stop playing your best' surely.
You're underestimating Fed's best at 2004-7. It was better than this. And yeah, a Federer in 30s can do it playing near his best. Not often though, as his 30s tally clearly shows.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Jahu Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:24 pm
AceofDeath wrote:Djokovic has too much fun with the nannyJahu wrote:AceofDeath wrote:What's wrong with Rafa? He used to be a brick wall against Fed.
He and Djoko have gone clean.
Djoko cant fart without approval of his wife, let alone doggy the nanny
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:26 pm
AceofDeath wrote:His FH probably was better, not his BH and serve for me.Daniel wrote:AceofDeath wrote:Could it be that Feds simply improved in multiple areas as he's got older? Can't win a grand slam and beat top 10 players if you 'stop playing your best' surely.
You're underestimating Fed's best at 2004-7. It was better than this. And yeah, a Federer in 30s can do it playing near his best. Not often though, as his 30s tally clearly shows.
His serve was definitely better. His forehand was definitely better. His backhand is debatable, but he was playing with a smaller racquet anyway. And his footwork was better and he was faster.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:27 pm
Fed races through his service games with his eyes closed. It would be very harsh if Nadal wins this set.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:29 pm
See, this Nadal "tactic" is just pure desperation. Trying to end the point quickly is not his style at all. And he doesn't have the talent to do it.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:31 pm
ah lucky Nadal. He was lucky Fed didn't go for the line
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:32 pm
gallery play wrote:ah lucky Nadal. He was lucky Fed didn't go for the line
That isn't lucky though... that's Fed being a plonker.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:33 pm
Nah, It was a fifty fifty situation. Nadal picked the right sideDaniel wrote:gallery play wrote:ah lucky Nadal. He was lucky Fed didn't go for the line
That isn't lucky though... that's Fed being a plonker.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:34 pm
How many BPs is Federer going to squander? And I don't want to see him lose and know that's the reason. He needs to sort it the fuck out.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:34 pm
gallery play wrote:Nah, It was a fifty fifty situation. Nadal picked the right sideDaniel wrote:gallery play wrote:ah lucky Nadal. He was lucky Fed didn't go for the line
That isn't lucky though... that's Fed being a plonker.
I have to disagree. The down the line was the better shot regardless. Cross court was asking for trouble.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:38 pm
I have that familiar "he needs to win in 2" feeling again.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:40 pm
wow...long time since i see Fed miss a FH like that..
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Daniel Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:40 pm
gallery play wrote:I have that familiar "he needs to win in 2" feeling again.
I do. But I am also getting that "Not converting BPs and it's going to end in tragedy" feeling too. Still, this isn't the same Nadal mentally or physically. But Federer really is giving chances here he shouldnt be!
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Jahu Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:42 pm
Jahu wrote:Break time guys.
Fukin right.
Crush himmmmm
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:43 pm
haha, Nadal wanted to pull a tweener but forgot to hit it between the legs
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:43 pm
See Daniel, that punchy BH got him the break, he didn't have that BH back in the daysDaniel wrote:That's better! Now, come on. Serve it out.
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by Jahu Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:44 pm
Need 2 aces, and 2 serve and fh.
Who is the blond anorexic ugly girl?
Who is the blond anorexic ugly girl?
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Re: ATP 1000: Miami
by gallery play Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:44 pm
Obviously not MirkaJahu wrote:Need 2 aces, and 2 serve and fh.
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