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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:05 am

Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
Agree completely.
Total opposite from Ruboev.

Guess what I found out yesterday!

That Rubi is a year older than he acrually is (they fiddled his papers as a junior, same as Tomic)
Found out from one of our coaches who trained  GBs top junior at the time

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:06 am

NITB wrote:
Daniel wrote:
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Daniel wrote:CALL THE TRAINER.  FFS! Is this guy dumb???
You can't get a trainer for cramps.

Nor could nadal - but he did 100x by just lying.  So pretend to fall or cruckle.  Do what Nadal does!
All he has to do is fall over slightly - instead of looking like a gormless fool with cramp.  Make no mistake about it, Nadal would have.
I don't remember ever seeing Nadal cramp, maybe during the AO 2012 trophy ceremony.
USO 11 but he did not take a cramp break.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:07 am

NITB wrote:
Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
Agree completely.
Total opposite from Ruboev.

Guess what I found out yesterday!

That Rubi is a year older than he acrually is (they fiddled his papers as a junior, same as Tomic)
Found out from one of our coaches who trained  GBs top junior at the time

Really? Strange. WHat proof have we got of this?

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:09 am

Tenez wrote:
NITB wrote:
Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
Agree completely.
Total opposite from Ruboev.

Guess what I found out yesterday!

That Rubi is a year older than he acrually is (they fiddled his papers as a junior, same as Tomic)
Found out from one of our coaches who trained  GBs top junior at the time

Really? Strange. WHat proof have we got of this?
I can ask.
Why would he invent stg like that...that was all happening 3-4 years ago.

You know what Brits are like, they have their fingers in every pie!


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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:10 am

He's also the guy he told me Nole wouldn't win anything till the end of 2016.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:12 am

Last night I found out the last piece of puzzle to Nole's slump.
Totally dif. source.
I feel sorry for him. I really do.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:16 am

The scheduling at the AO is so frustating every year.WHy do thy have so many ladies matches on CC. Hypocrits. Then having the ladies starting at 7...before the mens.

Angry

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Post by bogbrush Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:17 am

NITB wrote:Last night I found out the last piece of puzzle to Nole's slump.
Totally dif. source.
I feel sorry for him. I really do.
Come on then........

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Post by bogbrush Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:18 am

Tenez wrote:The scheduling at the AO is so frustating every year.WHy do thy have so many ladies matches on CC. Hypocrits. Then having the ladies starting at 7...before the mens.

Angry
I guess getting the quota in without messing with the viewing figures.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:21 am

bogbrush wrote:
NITB wrote:Last night I found out the last piece of puzzle to Nole's slump.
Totally dif. source.
I feel sorry for him. I really do.
Come on then........
I can only say it's private, nothing to do with tennis.
But take my word for it, it's sad. Really sad.

Stg that will hurt him for the rest of his days.

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Post by bogbrush Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:28 am

Don't tell me he's realized he's trans?

Let me guess....

- his Dad isn't his Dad
- his kid isn't his kid
- his wife is his long-lost sister


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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:30 am

bogbrush wrote:Don't tell me he's realized he's trans?
Laugh

No we don't grow that in Serbia.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:31 am

I am expecting Donald aka Larry aka Amri etc to come back any day now and start jinxing Nadal.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:34 am

bogbrush wrote:Don't tell me he's realized he's trans?

Let me guess....

- his Dad isn't his Dad
- his kid isn't his kid
- his wife is his long-lost sister

No, none of those...

I know it's naughty of me to mention it and then not say what it is, but I really can't.

Enough to know it's not tennis or health related.

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:35 am

Yeah cmon Nitb....what can you know tgat we cant here? Lets us know and we will tell you whether it's credible or not.

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Post by gallery play Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:47 am

Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
This is a joke right?

To me he's in the same category as Del Potro: winning points by playing steady and constructive (not defensive!)
He lacks Delpo's charisma but he the same firepower. There's plenty to improve, but he's only 19.

Nadal was as annoying as ever with his everlasting shitty slices. He only dared to attack when Zverev tired. There was a decent chance Nadal would get tight in the fifth but that 37 shot rally in the fifth game killed Zverev. Both men knew it.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:59 am

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
This is a joke right?

To me he's in the same category as Del Potro: winning points by playing steady and constructive (not defensive!)
He lacks Delpo's charisma but he the same firepower. There's plenty to improve, but he's only 19.

Nadal was as annoying as ever with his everlasting shitty slices. He only dared to attack when Zverev tired. There was a decent chance Nadal would get tight in the fifth but that 37 shot rally in the fifth game killed Zverev. Both men knew it.
Well, he certainly isn't an instinctive player...the rest is just different shades of the same.

Surely, with his serve and forepower/timing, he could be a different player.

He grinds, Delpo doesn't.

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Post by Daniel Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:10 am

I think a few things need pointing out too.

1. Nadal is getting away with murder.  Well over 30 seconds on his serve at time. He was over 20 a ton.
2. Zverev and other players need to start using their brain and doing underarm serves now and then. It's not a tactic you can rely on all the time, but it unnerves someone who is comfortable standing almost as far back as is possible. It will definitely win you a few points too.  Yet no-one is doing this.
3. Nadal should not be able to stop the other player serving.  I don't care if he is distracted. He has to play to the SERVER.

This game is run by spineless cretins. The same lot Trump has booted out.

Oh and 4.

When you are cramping... do what Nadal and Djok do.... abuse the rules.  If Nadal was feeling bad, he'd have a slight "twist" and the trainer would be out.  Don't play fair with a fist pumping pillock. Until they sort the rules out and actually apply them evenly, take any advantage.  That's what Nadal does.


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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:11 am

Order of play out for tomorrow, Fed playing first evening session.

http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/schedule/p_schedule12.pdf

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Post by Tenez Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:18 am

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
This is a joke right?

To me he's in the same category as Del Potro: winning points by playing steady and constructive (not defensive!)
He lacks Delpo's charisma but he the same firepower. There's plenty to improve, but he's only 19.

Nadal was as annoying as ever with his everlasting shitty slices. He only dared to attack when Zverev tired. There was a decent chance Nadal would get tight in the fifth but that 37 shot rally in the fifth game killed Zverev. Both men knew it.
I certainly wanted him to win but I still think he is way too defending. His FH is not nearly as aggressive as Delpo though Delpo is also a bit of a grinder. I have seen Zver before and he is a retriever.

Agreed on Nadal and seeing fist pumping when he realised Zver was on his knee made me regret what I said.

But overall I am not a fan of Zverev at all. His game is closer to Murray than Delpo in a way.

You can see how hard he can whack the ball...yet on so many occasions he was looping more than Nadal as the stats showed actually.

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Post by gallery play Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:51 am

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:Zverev is paying the price for being too defending. I am actually glad he'll lose. I am not a fan of his game. He has the weapons but just doesn't use them. Plays too safe.
This is a joke right?

To me he's in the same category as Del Potro: winning points by playing steady and constructive (not defensive!)
He lacks Delpo's charisma but he the same firepower. There's plenty to improve, but he's only 19.

Nadal was as annoying as ever with his everlasting shitty slices. He only dared to attack when Zverev tired. There was a decent chance Nadal would get tight in the fifth but that 37 shot rally in the fifth game killed Zverev. Both men knew it.
I certainly wanted him to win but I still think he is way too defending. His FH is not nearly as aggressive as Delpo though Delpo is also a bit of a grinder. I have seen Zver before and he is a retriever.

Agreed on Nadal and seeing fist pumping when he realised Zver was on his knee made me regret what I said.

But overall I am not a fan of Zverev at all. His game is closer to Murray than Delpo in a way.

You can see how hard he can whack the ball...yet on so many occasions he was looping more than Nadal as the stats showed actually.
I think he'll learn. Being as tall as he is, he'd better be dominant. I've seen patches of impressive attacking tennis, so the potential is there. He just needs to find the right balance.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:12 pm

It's unacceptable that the best of 5 match should start at midnight.

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Post by noleisthebest Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:21 pm

Dull start to the match between Dimi amd Richie, ex Baby-Feds.

Both glued to the baseline, having a CC BH hitting session....

Come on boys, show us some flair!

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Post by bogbrush Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:33 pm

NITB wrote:Dull start to the match between Dimi amd Richie, ex Baby-Feds.

Both glued to the baseline, having a CC BH hitting session....

Come on boys, show us some flair!
Neither are attacking enough. We're in the 6th game and both men have run just 200m less than Federer did in his whole match against Berdych.

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