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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:35 am

It won't, always will be abused the MTO.

At least i think Ninja does not dope.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:36 am

The MTO should be abolished. Sick of it.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:37 am

It's so wrong. They all know it, McEnroe is calling it out on Eurosport.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:37 am

Well, Wrecking Ball has squeezed out as much juice as he can from Fed. The nob.

Come on Roger!

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:37 am

Close it up Fed!!! NOW!!!

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:39 am

Yes yess yess, Fed as happy as a Junior player smiley

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:39 am

Yeah, get your ass out of here you cheating bastard.

Well done Roger!!!! What a guy!!!  LOok how happy he is!!!!!!

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:42 am

Who is next for Fed?

What has AO done this year to make it quicker as Fed has said it 30 times till now? Smoother court?

And where is BogBrush saying this match has turned? Getting old papi  Laugh

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:45 am

Only fatigue can stop Federer.

Kei is not a great enough player to worry Federer with his MTO's

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:45 am

Fed saying DImi just looks good, terrible voice on that boy bend hahahaha, git.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:49 am

They've apparently taken smaller balls, don't know about the surface. You can see it in the play - they sabotaged this Slam from him after he made 2007 a procession.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:49 am

Murray was supposed to meet Nishikori and look what happened Big Grin

The Scot is simply a paper number 1 losing to a guy who has an 82-125 career win loss  Laugh

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:50 am

Jahu wrote:Who is next for Fed?

What has AO done this year to make it quicker as Fed has said it 30 times till now? Smoother court?

And where is BogBrush saying this match has turned? Getting old papi  Laugh
Fair enough, I certainly thought he wouldn't pick it up.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:51 am

Ok this senior Zverev russian spy seems to be Feds next, not a bad player.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:54 am

Again some good remarks by Wilander. Fed should not think a single moment about winning the title. In his haydays slams were only starting at this point.
And he didn't even mentioned those 2 wasted sets..

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:58 am

bogbrush wrote:They've apparently taken smaller balls, don't know about the surface. You can see it in the play - they sabotaged this Slam from him after he made 2007 a procession.
Or less fluffy. The balls definitly keep the pace, even after the bounce

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Veejay on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:23 pm

the draw looks really interesting now that murray and djokovic are out but a lot will depend on how roger can recover from this 5 setter

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:23 pm

Wawrinka, Dimitrov, Tsonga or Federer have to win this to make tennis great again.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Veejay on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:35 pm

if mischa zverev can get past murray then i wouldnt underestimate him
he is a serious threat in the next round
i think that nadals run will end with milos raonic

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by legendkillar on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:37 pm

Come on Thiem/Goffy!

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:42 pm

This 5 setter don't think it was too hard on Fed, last 3 sets were pretty quick.

What a final would be Fed=Stan or Fed-Dimi.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:47 pm

Stan or Nadal are the biggest threats to stopping Fed.  Should he reach the final against Raonic... I'd put him favourite narrowly.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:50 pm

Veejay wrote:if mischa zverev can get past murray then i wouldnt underestimate him
he is a serious threat in the next round
i think that nadals run will end with milos raonic

Not as serious as it seems.  Murray is a pusher. Zverev took the game to him and took his time away.  Federer plays the the attacking tennis and is great at passing shots with the ball early.  I'd be surprised if Zverev mounted any real challenge.  He was a bad match up for Murray.  Plus Murray was snarling and whining - and his serve isn't Federer's.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:02 pm

It's looking very open for Nadal. Monfils is an idiot and can never hold it together. Ok, Raonic is there but I'm not convinced by him at all, and I'd back Nadal to beat Thiem.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by AceofDeath on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:31 pm

bogbrush wrote:It's looking very open for Nadal. Monfils is an idiot and can never hold it together. Ok, Raonic is there but I'm not convinced by him at all, and I'd back Nadal to beat Thiem.
You are getting nervy for no solid reason. Nadal will have flashbacks of Fognini/Pouille stopping him from making the final. He is done making GS finals.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:42 pm

Maybe, it's just that there's nobody he really needs to fear. Nobody of the calibre of, say, Wawrinka.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:51 pm

bogbrush wrote:Maybe, it's just that there's nobody he really needs to fear. Nobody of the calibre of, say, Wawrinka.

Let's be honest, Nadal has been handed the cake walk draw compared to Fed... who at least got away with Murray.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:51 pm

Missed the Murray match, just catching it on replay.

It's shocking how, even in the day session, the rallying is less powerful and more safely placed than Fed/Nish.

Based on what I'm seeing Federer will make Zverev far more uncomfortable in rallies.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Some good S&V from.Zverev against Andy, so he will match up at the net Fed pretty good.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Jahu on Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:36 pm

The Swiss is the oldest man to reach a Grand Slam quarter-final since the 39-year-old Jimmy Connors at the 1991 US Open.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:58 pm

If Wimbledon had kept smaller balls Federer would have 15 titles by now and would still be the favourite for Win 2017.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:14 pm

Tenez wrote:If Wimbledon had kept smaller balls Federer would have  15 titles by now and would still be the favourite for Win 2017.
Disagree, I think various injury issues would have limited him to 12 or so.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:33 pm

"Bam bam" Coco stunned Kerber (the female Murray).
Another example of a shotmaker toying with a retriever under fast conditions like these.

This simply cannot be Nadal's AO. Can it?

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:35 pm

Yeah...way of saying.

Btw those who complained about Nishi taking a MTO remember that Fed won his last slam in Wimby 2012 thanks to a MTO

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:38 pm

Tenez wrote:Yeah...way of saying.

Btw those who complained about Nishi taking a MTO remember that Fed won his last slam in Wimby 2012 thanks to a MTO
smiley I know, just playing.

On MTO's personally I think they're ok but somehow it's got to be prevented for condition. Closer attention to the nature of the treatment and cooperation of the trainers would help.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:38 pm

Tenez wrote:Yeah...way of saying.

Btw those who complained about Nishi taking a MTO remember that Fed won his last slam in Wimby 2012 thanks to a MTO
The malisse match?

That surely wasn't a tactical TO
Fed could barely walk..

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:43 pm

And this GP completely mixes up the mental strength cards. The proof that without fitness superiorty being an advantage Murray and Djoko turn into mental midgets.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:44 pm

I think it was against Beneteau....i m not saying it was tactical but it seems that it saved him.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Veejay on Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:53 pm

gallery play wrote:
Tenez wrote:Yeah...way of saying.

Btw those who complained about Nishi taking a MTO remember that Fed won his last slam in Wimby 2012 thanks to a MTO
The malisse match?

That surely wasn't a tactical TO
Fed could barely walk..
bit of a stupid comparison...that also is the only time i have ever seen a match where roger called a MTO
MTO are needed but these days we see certain players abuse them

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Nishi is a repeat offender, he can't get benefit of doubt. In 2016 Rogers cup against Ndaal Nishikori took a bathroom break and held the match for over 10 mins.

This is another loophole being extracted by cunning player and their coaches. The bathroom break is is potentially worse than MTO.

An MTO can only be for 3 mins, and fe more seconds. But bathroom break has no time limit.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:23 pm

Tenez wrote:If Wimbledon had kept smaller balls Federer would have  15 titles by now and would still be the favourite for Win 2017.

V unlikely.  In fact, basically impossible.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Daniel on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Tenez wrote:Yeah...way of saying.

Btw those who complained about Nishi taking a MTO remember that Fed won his last slam in Wimby 2012 thanks to a MTO

So?  They still need to be outlawed.  And Fed has been done out of at least 2 slams by them. French Open with Nada [yeah, Nada] springs instantly to mind.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:30 pm

Daniel wrote:
Tenez wrote:If Wimbledon had kept smaller balls Federer would have  15 titles by now and would still be the favourite for Win 2017.

V unlikely.  In fact, basically impossible.
10, 12, 15 does it matter?

The point is: his current game combined with small pacey balls on grass would be too hard to handle for any top player out there

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by gallery play on Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:40 pm

Tenez wrote:I think it was against Beneteau....i m not saying it was tactical but it seems that it saved him.
I guess everyone can understand a MTO, unless it's tactical. Nishi had 2 MTO's but still ran like a rabbit afterwards...

If it's too obvious the only right way to react is like the aussies did: they knew NAdal was cheating against Stan in 2014, and their respons was devastating for Nadal. I think it was a good lesson for Nadal.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:25 pm

Tenez wrote:I think it was against Beneteau....i m not saying it was tactical but it seems that it saved him.
It was Xavier Malisse, and Federer made a point of apologising to him for the disruption when he returned to the Court.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:27 pm

You know a fan when he/she doesnt turn up after his player's loss. ....where is Sleepy?

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by Tenez on Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:24 pm

I just watched a bit of Misha Murray. I can't quite see how even a tired Federer would lose to him.

he has a similar FH as Kachnakov or even to a lesser extend Tomic. A strange flick of the wrist with hardly any arm mouvement.

Unlike Murray I think Federer will move him around the court and will draw a few more UEs.

I don;t think it will be a very exhausting match for Federer but since he must knackered from today's match I expect a slow start again.

I think Fed's chance is that he will probably get 2 days rest before the final. So a big hurdle will be that match v Stan, trying to lose as little as energy then.

The stars need to align for him but looking his talent it's probably not the first time they have aligned for him.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:31 am

That's how I see this quarter too.

I notice Thiem is out. Federer / Nadal starting to look a realistic possibility.

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by garthmarenghi on Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:47 am

Don't worry about Nadal. Should they meet then Federer will blink for maybe a second or two and by then he will have dispatched Rafa with a couple of breadsticks and a bagel!

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Re: Australian Open 2017(The Draw Is Out!)

Post by bogbrush on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:11 am

Only Stan stands between that final though; Raonic is hopeless, Goffin a lightweight and Dimitrov will never amount to anything.

Oh, and Monfils is a nutcase.

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