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Re: U.S Election

Post by Daniel on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:43 am

Or women being treated as second class citizens in nearly all Muslim countries.  Or all 11 countries with the death sentence for homosexuality being Muslim controlled.  Or Gays being thrown off buildings in certain Muslim countries.

Please, just quit this silly apologist game. It makes you look dumb as hell. 

Sweden has bent over backwards to allow Muslim immigrants in - despite anyone with a brain realizing where that would lead.  And now their generosity is met with "lol. They are part of Nato so deserve to be attacked."
  Get yourself down to a mental hospital. There is something wrong with you.

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Post by Daniel on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:48 am

Jahu wrote:Good time not for UK to arm its white citizens (pending some mental tests)

See a arab guy? shoot, see a burqa lady? shoot. deport any any arab over 30 back home, they will probably make terrorist kids? Heck shoot a few white idiots too in the process.

You're a racist. Quite clearly. You turn this into a white person's issue when it's Muslims running around killing all over the world (not to mention anyone can be a Muslim. Any colour). Another one for the mental hospital, folks.

You'll do anything in your power to blame the West and especially white men for all the world's ills.  You'll say nothing about the treatment of women, gays, and minorities in Muslim countries - who are treated 100x worse than any Western democracy. All just part of your fried brain's agenda.


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Post by Jahu on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:50 am

Dont care, shoot them all, before more inocent people die.

You can keep hitting your keyboard as much as you like.

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Post by Daniel on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:51 am

Jahu wrote:Dont care, shoot them all, before more inocent people die.

You can keep hitting your keyboard as much as you like.

Or just do what Japan does - and stop listening to mentally ill people, like you. They seem to be getting on dandy.  So are quite a few countries ignoring most of the West's self-hate and immigration policy.

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:58 am

Daniel wrote:
Jahu wrote:Dont care, shoot them all, before more inocent people die.

You can keep hitting your keyboard as much as you like.

Or just do what Japan does - and stop listening to mentally ill people, like you. They seem to be getting on dandy.  So are quite a few countries ignoring most of the West's self-hate and immigration policy.

You're drunk on your own ignorance.

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:59 am

Sure instead of shooting, they can be deported, I gave 2 options.

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:08 pm

so what do you suggest we do daniel?
ive asked you this before,what is the solution?
multiculturalism is so far gone,how do you undo it?
even if europe or the u.k never let another single immigrant in,the vast majority of the attacks have come from 2nd,3rd or 4th generation immigrants
they are born here which makes them either british or european

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:30 pm

Well there are decent emigrants, i guess most of them are decent, but need to clean up countries from these idiots anyway possible.

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:35 pm

another terrorist attack in melbourne and another shooting in orlando florida
not making excuses for the attacks in the name of islam but these shootings are happening just as regularly
proves that these crimes can happen regardless of muslims or islam

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Post by Jahu on Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:38 pm

Sure they can, sick people all around, but lets clean up first these that do mega killings for faith beliefs

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Post by Veejay on Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:56 pm

trumps tweets making a fool of himself again
trumps twitter account = fake news

http://addictinginfo.com/2017/06/04/london-mayor-just-told-trump-to-fck-off-in-the-most-spectacular-way/

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Post by Veejay on Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:02 pm

london mayor sadiq khan has called on the british government to cancel trumps state visit after being wrongly criticised via twitter 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/05/donald-trump-attack-courts-travel-ban-london

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Post by Veejay on Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:18 pm

it cant get any worse then this!!
forbes magazine claims that trump is funneling kids cancer charity money into his own business
doesnt surprise me one bit,pocketing money from a kids cancer charity...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#3aafcded6b4a

rumours that melania trump is/was having an affair hank siemers head of security at tiffany&co 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6W2I3Ya7Hs&t=89s

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Post by Tenez on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:27 pm

luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:46 am

Justifying genocide... Apologism for murder.  I thought your doping witch hunt was bad enough.  Doh

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:42 pm

Who killed Millions Tenez? Not since Stalin killed his own people. A few thousands here and there directly or indirectly.

So you're more anti-gov, anti-establishment/media then against these nuts?

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:08 pm

Who created those nuts if it is not the constant bombing and destabilisation of the middle east?

Some are accountable for having messed up so much over there.

There is no going around that.

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Post by Jahu on Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:14 pm

Those nuts were made nuts by their Dictatorial Kings first, and their heavy handed tactics, then they run away to war zones created by the West to empty their rage, then lets go kill some people in the West.

So the seeds of unhappy population and future terrorists not created by West, it has been there for centuries under these Kings, and sure helped by West since 2001 too.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:08 am

Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!
What do you mean?

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Post by Veejay on Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:51 pm

former FBI director james comey calls trump and white house a bunch of liars 
and that he was fired directly because of the investigation into russian involvement with the trump administration
we already knew all of that so nothing new....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/james-comey-testifies-trump-administration-lied-defamed-fbi/story?id=47901315

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:54 pm

USA has become a kindergarten, joke of the world, at least in Russia Putin chops his enemies and no public embarrassment.

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:18 pm

I really cannot understand why anyone would vote for the tories. 

Not a single policy of theirs is for the benefit of the ordinary person. I guess a lot of people have delusions of grandeur and belief themselves to be a part of the 0.01% corporate elite. 

For the first time in my lifetime there is a candidate worth voting for in Jeremy Corbyn. A manifesto worth voting for - not just another lighter shade of nothing which the Blairites where proposing. 

JC is an honest, decent man who actually wants to empower his people. May is a cold, distant sociopath and a coward who didn't have the balls to speak directly to the people at any time during her campaign. In contrast JC was out there at rallies, accessible and answerable to the public. 

The right wing press has been pillorying JC for 2 years (aided by the supposed left wing press ie. Guardian) and despite this people have come out to vote for him. Why? because broadcast media has to give proportionate time to all the parties in the run up to an election and for the first time the ordinary people have been able to access the message of the labour party under JC without the rabid hostility of the right wing press completely distorting their view. Some of the headlines in the last few days attacking JC have been disgraceful.

The tory party is smoke and mirrors democracy nothing more.

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Post by Jahu on Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:21 pm

Agree mostly, though JC is a bit of a communist at heart.

That 0.01% of elites, employs 25% of people and scaremongering on employees always works to make them decide to vote Tories i.e pro-corp otherwise Labour will tax us to death, nationalize, etc etc. not a bad trick.

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Post by Emancipator on Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:27 pm

Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!


What about the 1 million + Iraqis that have been killed through war and bombing campaigns since 1990.

What about the hundreds of thousands of Afghans?

Not to mention our propping up of dictators and funding coups and supplying weapons to subjugate these populaces.

You think none of that has an effect. All of this happens in a vacuum? We have been subjugating these countries for centuries. Previously it was done in the name of Christianity and now in the name of faux democracy.

Or is it only our dead that count? Only our dead that have names and loved ones? 

But no - let's just blame Islam and a quarter of humanity. Let's all jump on that bandwagon and ensure a war of mutual annihilation.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:56 am

Who is your post addressed to Emancipator? Cause you are saying what i am saying.

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Post by Jahu on Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:48 am

So now Belfast in Charge of UK with their 10 MP's who most are religious fundamentalists with terrorist connections? 

What a suicide has Theresa made, what a joke.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:29 pm

Tenez wrote:Who is your post addressed to Emancipator? Cause you are saying what i am saying

I agree with you Tenez.

It was addressed to people who are blaming one religion or one group of people for the troubles in the world. There is plenty of blame to go around and it isn't limited to a subset of people.

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:32 pm

Emancipator wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!


What about the 1 million + Iraqis that have been killed through war and bombing campaigns since 1990.

What about the hundreds of thousands of Afghans?

Not to mention our propping up of dictators and funding coups and supplying weapons to subjugate these populaces.

You think none of that has an effect. All of this happens in a vacuum? We have been subjugating these countries for centuries. Previously it was done in the name of Christianity and now in the name of faux democracy.

Or is it only our dead that count? Only our dead that have names and loved ones? 

But no - let's just blame Islam and a quarter of humanity. Let's all jump on that bandwagon and ensure a war of mutual annihilation.

For a minute there I was waiting for you to breakout into full Earth Song mode! Winking

Quite agree there is more than enough blame to go around for the ills of the moden world.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:38 pm

Egg on Theresa May's face.

She thought she could hijack the will of the people and effectively destroy all opposition. She was so arrogant that she didn't even bother to pretend to offer the people any hope. Her campaign was negative and fear mongering and purely based on attacking JC, who, to his credit, didn't engage in mud slinging - he just went about his business offering people real solutions. 

Theresa May didn't even bother to produce a proper manifesto with costings. This just shows her disdain for the public. She thought we were so worthless and so far below her that she could just say 'vote for me', 'I am strong and stable', and that would be enough. 

She didn't even have a message to deliver - just more of the same because the alternative is Corbyn and he's much worse. Ahh hubris. 

She had all the cards stacked in her favour with the Tory press fanatically trying to brain wash the public but she still failed. Why? because ultimately the Tories do not have any policies that benefit the vast majority of people in this country. 

She should have the good grace to put her tail between her legs and slink away.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:39 pm

legendkillar wrote:
Emancipator wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!


What about the 1 million + Iraqis that have been killed through war and bombing campaigns since 1990.

What about the hundreds of thousands of Afghans?

Not to mention our propping up of dictators and funding coups and supplying weapons to subjugate these populaces.

You think none of that has an effect. All of this happens in a vacuum? We have been subjugating these countries for centuries. Previously it was done in the name of Christianity and now in the name of faux democracy.

Or is it only our dead that count? Only our dead that have names and loved ones? 

But no - let's just blame Islam and a quarter of humanity. Let's all jump on that bandwagon and ensure a war of mutual annihilation.

For a minute there I was waiting for you to breakout into full Earth Song mode! Winking

Quite agree there is more than enough blame to go around for the ills of the moden world.

Laugh

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:54 pm

Emancipator wrote:Egg on Theresa May's face.

She thought she could hijack the will of the people and effectively destroy all opposition. She was so arrogant that she didn't even bother to pretend to offer the people any hope. Her campaign was negative and fear mongering and purely based on attacking JC, who, to his credit, didn't engage in mud slinging - he just went about his business offering people real solutions. 

Theresa May didn't even bother to produce a proper manifesto with costings. This just shows her disdain for the public. She thought we were so worthless and so far below her that she could just say 'vote for me', 'I am strong and stable', and that would be enough. 

She didn't even have a message to deliver - just more of the same because the alternative is Corbyn and he's much worse. Ahh hubris. 

She had all the cards stacked in her favour with the Tory press fanatically trying to brain wash the public but she still failed. Why? because ultimately the Tories do not have any policies that benefit the vast majority of people in this country. 

She should have the good grace to put her tail between her legs and slink away.


Absolutely.

I voted Labour. JC for me represents progressive policies, whereas Tories was all sprint finish to the line, hence the undoing of many pledges from 2015!

Detest May. Absolute disgrace of person. Tried bullying the country and her opponents. As Mike Tyson said "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" and that's what has happened to May.

JC has sat back, interacted with the people, listened to their concerns and addressed their concerns. Seems a real people person and above all else has a small humility and authenticity about him. Essentially he followed Napoleon's gem "Never interrupt your enemy when he (in the case she) is making a mistake"

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:20 pm

Exactly. JC stayed true to his principles despite all the vicious attacks against him. They basically tried to equate him to an extremist and a terrorist - the papers. 

May just tried to bluff her way to the finish line - she never answered a single question - everything was soundbites, rehearsed and parroted lines that didn't say anything. The usual political bullshit except this time the opposition candidate was speaking in clear and honest terms and answering questions with integrity, and I guess a lot of people could see the stark contrast between the two. Unlike in previous elections when both sides basically just spouted the same banal, pointless bullshit.

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:29 pm

JC used intelligence and diplomacy whereas May for me used brute force. One displays rational thinking and other irrational.

Do I have confidence in May to deliver a Brexit of benefit to this country? Absolutely not! Do I have confidence in her to shape and improve Public Services? Hell no.

I know Corbyn isn't going to solve all the issues the country faces, however least he has cottoned on that investment is needed for Public Services and not de-investment.

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:31 pm

Emancipator wrote:
Tenez wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
... wrote:Sweden is one of top NATO supporting countries as well as France.

How about Christians being killed by the dozen in Egypt? They are not in NATO.
There is no point trying to add list of victims of both sides. First cause you will have to wait many more years before the terrorists even up with the millions killed because of the West messing up in the middle East. Secondly cause in spite of the terrorists events in the West, 90% of ISIS victims are actually "normal" muslims. finally but not least both sides are wrong: Our Govs destabilising and bombing other countries while killing millions and the terrorists trying to polarise people from both sides (and clearly succeeding in their job here when reading some comments).

I personally don;t want to take side. the future will be without either ...or will not be!


What about the 1 million + Iraqis that have been killed through war and bombing campaigns since 1990.

What about the hundreds of thousands of Afghans?

Not to mention our propping up of dictators and funding coups and supplying weapons to subjugate these populaces.

You think none of that has an effect. All of this happens in a vacuum? We have been subjugating these countries for centuries. Previously it was done in the name of Christianity and now in the name of faux democracy.

Or is it only our dead that count? Only our dead that have names and loved ones? 

But no - let's just blame Islam and a quarter of humanity. Let's all jump on that bandwagon and ensure a war of mutual annihilation.

You accused Tenez of not reading your quotes properly and now you do the same with me.
If you had actually bothered to follow the thread you would see I said at the beginning the west have done so much bad but Tenez for me did not bring up radical Islam at all. 
You just wasted a post. How about asking for a view before going off on a diatribe.

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Post by Veejay on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:10 pm

so what happens now?? are the conservatives going to form a coalition government?
havent been following the election but it seems to me like corbyn has gained some momentous ground for labour after how unpopular blair made them?

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Post by legendkillar on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:37 pm

Well Conservatives will seek to for a minority with DUP. The DUP will have them by the balls given a minority with Lib Dems, the alliance and SNP is off the cards completely.

Blair didn't make Labour unpopular. It was Brown's lack of credibility as a leader that sunk them in the 2010 election followed by Milliband who was a buffoon! Labour was a mess given the party like rats in a barrel who would consume themselves. Any sign of waning popularity they turned on their leader. Least with Corbyn despite all that shit from within and outside his party has lead through it with immense skill and damn right determination.

Labour needed someone who was going to sort them out from the bottom up and give them an identity and purpose. He has done that. The manner in which he has done that is truly remarkable.

Blair for all his failings was popular and emotionally intelligent. The blueprint that Cameron followed. May sadly, reminds me a lot of Brown at the time. The leader no-one wanted. Now it's the Tories struggling for identity.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:43 pm

May is actually a decent, nice lady.

Blair is not worthy to clean her shoes on a human level.

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Post by Jahu on Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:55 pm

Blair was King, Campbell invented  SpinPolitics, 1997-2001 was great, then 9/11 Blair became Bush's puppy.

Tories can't do shit with DUP.

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Post by Veejay on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:26 pm

i think that blairs decision to go to war with bush made labour extremely unpopular especially how most people think that we went to war based on a pack of lies
but yes brown and milliband were utterly useless
i dont know what to make of corbyn but may's time as home office secretary should tell anyone how completely incapable and out of depth she is to do any job!!

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Post by luvsports! on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:39 pm

Blair had a pretty good first term but from the turn of the Millennium he was awful imo.

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Post by Daniel on Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:03 pm

I'm laughing my ass of at the moment at all the butt hurt libtards - especially all the silly young voters who again voted for freebies.  There's a reason Corbyn wants the voting age reduced to 16... only silly, illogical people would vote for his communist policies.  

Good news is May is likely out - Davis hopefully gets in.
An alliance is being made with hardline DUP.  That's great news.
Conservatives are still in power.  Boo hoo to Corbyn and anyone who voted for his IRA loving, HAMAS appeasing, Islam appeasing polices and freebie manifesto.

He lost smiley

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Post by Daniel on Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:33 pm

rockandhardplace

onJust now
4173. Tories 319 seats, 44 percent vote share. Labour 261 seats, 40 percent vote share. Which Party has the mandate. The PM as an MP put herself up for re-election and won. She has the same mandate as every other MP. Some of you need a lesson in politics and democracy. You obviously went to the same School as Corbyn, Sturgeon and Farron.



Laugh Big Grin

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Post by Veejay on Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:13 pm

im reading that even if may forms a coalition government with the DUP 
shell still only have 319 seats,she needs 322 seats

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Re: U.S Election

Post by Jahu on Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:45 pm

Don't worry, a few Tories will not vote this DUPped joke of a coalition and it will fail.

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Post by Emancipator on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:54 pm

Imagine if Corbyn had had received a fair treatment from the press over the last 2 years. He would have won this by a landslide - with just 8 weeks of equal broadcast time he managed to eat massively into the Tory lead.

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Post by Veejay on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:58 pm

@ daniel..so who are terrorist sympathisers now?? 
i guess for the tories,if the taliban arent available,make a #dupcoalition just to try and hold onto power
muslim terroritst  or IRA terrorist = same thing - terrorist 
the tories seem to have no pride,no shame,no morals,no clue
nothing more then political whores...

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Re: U.S Election

Post by Daniel on Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:21 am

Blair for all his failings was popular and emotionally intelligent.
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So intelligent that he attacked Iraq and Afghan, killing thousands upon thousands, and then wondered why the region was in turmoil?  The rise of IS to fill the vacuum.  Flooded Britain with low skill migrants - many of whom are now extremists. 

He committed war crimes.
He's a real genius.

He passed a poisoned chalice to Brown - an even bigger moron.

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Re: U.S Election

Post by Veejay on Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:32 pm


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Post by Jahu on Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:35 pm

Superb.

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Re: U.S Election

Post by Veejay on Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:12 pm

heres another one   Laugh Laugh
shes brilliant!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDMSJig_SHs

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