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Masters 1000: Indian Wells
Not long ago the first association with this tournament for me was Larry Ellison.
Now with Nadal off the radar, Larry must be desperate to reinvent his tournament, trying hard to work out how much sand to pour into paint.
Well, I am glad those days are behind us!
Draw
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/mds.pdf
Qualifying Draw
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/qs.pdf
Order of Play
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/op.pdf
Now with Nadal off the radar, Larry must be desperate to reinvent his tournament, trying hard to work out how much sand to pour into paint.
Well, I am glad those days are behind us!
Draw
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/mds.pdf
Qualifying Draw
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/qs.pdf
Order of Play
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/op.pdf
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noleisthebest- Posts : 27907
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The new generation in the main draw (from ATP website)
Frances Tiafoe (WC) No. 177 18 yrs., 1 month
Taylor Fritz (WC) No. 80 18 yrs., 4 months
Alexander Zverev No. 58 18 yrs, 10 months
Borna Coric No. 47 19 yrs, 3 months
Jared Donaldson (WC) No. 158 19 yrs, 4 months
Hyeon Chung No. 64 19 yrs, 9 months
Nick Kyrgios No. 27 20 yrs, 10 months
Kyle Edmund No. 82 21 yrs., 1 month
but forget about all of them...
Rubi is playing qualies vs Deverman today.
Wait till his wings get stronger!
Frances Tiafoe (WC) No. 177 18 yrs., 1 month
Taylor Fritz (WC) No. 80 18 yrs., 4 months
Alexander Zverev No. 58 18 yrs, 10 months
Borna Coric No. 47 19 yrs, 3 months
Jared Donaldson (WC) No. 158 19 yrs, 4 months
Hyeon Chung No. 64 19 yrs, 9 months
Nick Kyrgios No. 27 20 yrs, 10 months
Kyle Edmund No. 82 21 yrs., 1 month
but forget about all of them...
Rubi is playing qualies vs Deverman today.
Wait till his wings get stronger!
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Match of the Day:
Pouille-Coric
Chung-Ramos
Pouille-Coric
Chung-Ramos
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Rublev lost Berrer in QFR 2-6, 3-6. This guy who wanted to retire last year already seems to be a nightmare for young players. Also recently beat Coric easily.
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Yes, I saw that...Autumnleaf wrote:Rublev lost Berrer in QFR 2-6, 3-6. This guy who wanted to retire last year already seems to be a nightmare for young players. Also recently beat Coric easily.
Berrer is a classic S&V-er so it doesn't surprise me he baffles young bashers who are now only taught to play from the baseline.
Plus, Rubi is not "fit" yet, so cannot grind Berrer like everyone else with keeping the ball in play safely with spin and muscle.
But Rubi is going about his develpoment the right way, his game will mature and get deadly in a few years.
He has real weapons.
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Tiafoe is much more interesting than Fritz.
Playing on or a foot inside the baseline. And actually ENJOYING himself!
Playing on or a foot inside the baseline. And actually ENJOYING himself!
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At last I can catch up on tennis.
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I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!
This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.
A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.
Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.
From beiing a set down.
He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.
A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.
Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.
From beiing a set down.
He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
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So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too!noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!
This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.
A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.
Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.
From beiing a set down.
He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
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Naaaah, "Djoko" at 19 was a pussycat compared to Zverev in every way!Tenez wrote:So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too!noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!
This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.
A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.
Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.
From beiing a set down.
He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
Zverev's not bad to watch, though.
Unlike Murray he has a serve and unlike Coric he has cleaner shots and more firepower.
But unlike Rublev, he has no/doesn't need guts and plays safe...which is why he is ranked a 100 places above him...
Also, he is fit enough to be winning grinding older players and arrogant enough to be changing shorts with his opponent serving at 3:4 in the third set.
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I know it's very windy, but even Rosol & Mannarino playing dull, waiting for an UE modern tennis.
Some great shots from time to time.
Not enough to keep watching though...sad times for tennis.
Some great shots from time to time.
Not enough to keep watching though...sad times for tennis.
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Yes but those big frames do suffer on a tennis court. It never going to be the future of tennis.noleisthebest wrote:Naaaah, "Djoko" at 19 was a pussycat compared to Zverev in every way!Tenez wrote:So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too!noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!
This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.
A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.
Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.
From beiing a set down.
He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
Zverev's not bad to watch, though.
Unlike Murray he has a serve and unlike Coric he has cleaner shots and more firepower.
But unlike Rublev, he has no/doesn't need guts and plays safe...which is why he is ranked a 100 places above him...
Also, he is fit enough to be winning grinding older players and arrogant enough to be changing shorts with his opponent serving at 3:4 in the third set.
I have been wrong in the past though!
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I really hope,so!Tenez wrote:
Yes but those big frames do suffer on a tennis court. It never going to be the future of tennis.
I have been wrong in the past though!
Though, he doesn't look to be suffering at all...very lanky so covers the ground with big steps, rather than sprinting.
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Match of the Day:
Berdych-Del Potro (apparently Delpo playing really well already!)
Goffin-Tiafoe (shame it's so late, I saw Tiafoe beat Taylor Fritz, a really exciting and unusual player!)
Berdych-Del Potro (apparently Delpo playing really well already!)
Goffin-Tiafoe (shame it's so late, I saw Tiafoe beat Taylor Fritz, a really exciting and unusual player!)
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Have I gone crazy, blind (or both! ), I can't see Murray's name in the draw!
Is he...."injured"?
Is he...."injured"?
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noleisthebest wrote:Have I gone crazy, blind (or both! ), I can't see Murray's name in the draw!
Is he...."injured"?
he was playing double last night.
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you r missing half the draw.....he is playing granoller...his spanish version!
lots of upsets amongst the youngs. Pouille being beaten by Coric!, Chung by an unknown...after having won the first set 6/2..goes on to lose 6/0. really weird.
lots of upsets amongst the youngs. Pouille being beaten by Coric!, Chung by an unknown...after having won the first set 6/2..goes on to lose 6/0. really weird.
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Tenez wrote:you r missing half the draw..... he is playing granoller...his spanish version!
Chung lost to Ramos, that's the guy who cost Fed his number two year end rankng last year...and...Tenez wrote:
lots of upsets amongst the youngs. Pouille being beaten by Coric!, Chung by an unknown...after having won the first set 6/2..goes on to lose 6/0. really weird.
I saw a little of Pouille-Coric, in the first set, Pouille was not playing that well whereas Coric with his safe game was like fish in the water.
Pouille actually has a bit of a complicated service motion...it's a whole set of entire body movements/steps needed for a streamed  flow of coordination. It looks smooth but not as free and easy as it can be. It's not good old Goran's One-Two! thing.
(or, if you like it, just like my clunky paragraph I described it with...not poetry, but does the job! )
But should get better with time, like Rubi.
Doesn't get that time to be free with his swing after the ball toss.
Second set looked closer score wise, but I didn't see it.
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Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.
He is sooooo obnoxious.
And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...
He is sooooo obnoxious.
And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...
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I must say, it's really weird seeing Delpo play again.
Esp vs Berdych!
Like it's 2010 or stg....
He has worked on his footwork, I don't remember it being so nimble.
Looks impressive in fact, very happy for him.
Esp vs Berdych!
Like it's 2010 or stg....
He has worked on his footwork, I don't remember it being so nimble.
Looks impressive in fact, very happy for him.
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noleisthebest wrote:Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.
He is sooooo obnoxious.
And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...
The new wave of youngsters looks pretty bad character wise, brainless Gyros, grunting Goric, affected Sashenka Zverev, neither Fritz nor Chung dont look promising. Only Dominic Thiem deserves a credit.
Not to forget a cyclop Rao, that is the real jackpot.
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paulcz wrote:noleisthebest wrote:Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.
He is sooooo obnoxious.
And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...
The new wave of youngsters looks pretty bad character wise, brainless Gyros, grunting Goric, affected Sashenka Zverev, neither Fritz nor Chung dont look promising. Only Dominic Thiem deserves a credit.
Not to forget a cyclop Rao, that is the real jackpot.
Well at least Gyros lost!
This Tiafoe is not bad at all, just hope he is stable in the head, not like Young.
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I just noticed half Murray's team is in Berdych's box now, esp when I see the photo on OTF's page!
Only his mum is still left by his side...
That explains why Berdych has improved his footwork, too.
If Jazz (or whatever the name of Murray's bald ex-fitness coach is) could turn Murray him into a RR, anything is possible!
Only his mum is still left by his side...
That explains why Berdych has improved his footwork, too.
If Jazz (or whatever the name of Murray's bald ex-fitness coach is) could turn Murray him into a RR, anything is possible!
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Delpo played a good first set, but having lost it in the TB is showing signs of rust...hopefully he gets fully ready for RG.
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Vamos !
Did Larry fix the crowd ?? Crowd more pro-Nadal than home Spanish Davis Cup matches..
Did Larry fix the crowd ?? Crowd more pro-Nadal than home Spanish Davis Cup matches..
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Muller is a decent player, not frequent to see serve and volleyers, and he hit some great feel volleys tonight.
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Wow DT......you are still a big fan! Waking up at 4 to watch your man play a 34yo who could not move when he was 25....good on you. !
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oh! Just saw the score! ...Imagine if Muller could move!
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Of course !Tenez wrote:Wow DT......you are still a big fan! Waking up at 4 to watch your man play a 34yo who could not move when he was 25....good on you. !
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He still made hard work of it!
He is indeed declining....faster than a 34yo!
He is indeed declining....faster than a 34yo!
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If you're very tall and your game is based on serve a lot, then I think losing some speed is ok as long as you tactically improve and your serve stays around the same or improves... hence Muller and Karlovic are still doing quite well.Tenez wrote:He still made hard work of it!
He is indeed declining....faster than a 34yo!
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I saw a bit of tennis yesterday incl a few points of Nadal-Muller.
There were three good matches going on at the same time:
Dimi-Zverev
Thiem-Kovalik (Vajda sitting in his box!)
&
Paire-Mannarino
I decided to stay with the last one as of all those  6 players, (though I watched all 3 on and off) only Paire played properly: attacking, streamed, creative...in one word - exciting!
Yes, he lost, but I would've still paid for the ticket to see him.
It doesn't matter whether you win or lose even if you play as a pro.
The most important thing is how you play (with what you've been given, of course).
He really is so good to watch. He is deadlier even than Federer.
I am so glad he exists in the sea of bland spinning clones.
Dimi...oh poor Dimi...
Just as he started playing decent tennis, here comes an 18 year old to knock/grind him out in round one...despite being a break up in the third.
And from memory, Thiem beat Dimi recently, too.
He is in trouble.
Nishi looked quite fresh and striking the ball really well.
Nadal was hilarious trying to look the warrior, pumping himself after average shots and after winning his own service games like he won a slam.
It was just...
There were three good matches going on at the same time:
Dimi-Zverev
Thiem-Kovalik (Vajda sitting in his box!)
&
Paire-Mannarino
I decided to stay with the last one as of all those  6 players, (though I watched all 3 on and off) only Paire played properly: attacking, streamed, creative...in one word - exciting!
Yes, he lost, but I would've still paid for the ticket to see him.
It doesn't matter whether you win or lose even if you play as a pro.
The most important thing is how you play (with what you've been given, of course).
He really is so good to watch. He is deadlier even than Federer.
I am so glad he exists in the sea of bland spinning clones.
Dimi...oh poor Dimi...
Just as he started playing decent tennis, here comes an 18 year old to knock/grind him out in round one...despite being a break up in the third.
And from memory, Thiem beat Dimi recently, too.
He is in trouble.
Nishi looked quite fresh and striking the ball really well.
Nadal was hilarious trying to look the warrior, pumping himself after average shots and after winning his own service games like he won a slam.
It was just...
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There is only one Alexander Dolgopolov.
Only one.
For the zillionth time...what a serve!
What an athlete!
What light-footedness...
What an amazing quick serving arm.
Just love it!!!
it!
Only one.
For the zillionth time...what a serve!
What an athlete!
What light-footedness...
What an amazing quick serving arm.
Just love it!!!
it!
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Yes...a great player (Dolgo) I agree! A genius in his own way,
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Is anyone watching Murray Delbonis? Murray is aked to hit winners out of dead balls.....not good at it. He ususally feeds his opponents with such balls. Delbonis, serving for the match.
Also Delbo's shots are very weird. I'd be curious to know his racquet tension....probably very low.
Also Delbo's shots are very weird. I'd be curious to know his racquet tension....probably very low.
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High quality tennis between Dolgo and Gasquet.
Dolgo drawing out top level oit of Richie who is even attacking woth his FH.
But I want Dolgo to win this.
I am sick of spinned shots, even if they are from a SBH-er.
Dolgo drawing out top level oit of Richie who is even attacking woth his FH.
But I want Dolgo to win this.
I am sick of spinned shots, even if they are from a SBH-er.
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Tenez wrote:Is anyone watching Murray Delbonis? Murray is aked to hit winners out of dead balls.....not good at it. He ususally feeds his opponents with such balls. Delbonis, serving for the match.
Also Delbo's shots are very weird. I'd be curious to know his racquet tension....probably very low.
I tried to watch at the beginning of 3rd set...only to see Delbonis serve into the opposite service box ...followed by some horror shots from both, not thanks for me.
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yet you missed the nice ending!
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Hehe, I couldn't resist so I watched the TB.
It was worth it!
It was worth it!
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Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.
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I didn't watch the third set.Tenez wrote:Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.
But seeing the score 6:1, it looks like the fitter player won.
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yep...the less injured,noleisthebest wrote:I didn't watch the third set.Tenez wrote:Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.
But seeing the score 6:1, it looks like the fitter player won.
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Tenez wrote:yep...the less injured,
Dolgopolov is injured again? Missed the first and the second set of that match and the third was a horror show from him. Can't say much about Gasquet either, because Dolgopolov just kept hitting UFEs.
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He was not moving in that last set. He was banging his racquet against his legs. Not sure how bad it was but he certainly did not try hard....or coudl not run much.
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Match of the Day:
Nadal-Zverev
Should be really good!
Past Simple vs Future Perfect.
Nadal-Zverev
Should be really good!
Past Simple vs Future Perfect.
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Goffin playing really well...but Stan has an average time between points of 12!! isn't that tanking? double break for Goffin.
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Amazing tennis between Goffin and Wawrinka. Lovely shots!
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I am not that fussed about Goffin.
Stan looks lazy...maybe he doesn't like the heat...
He only seems to bother in slams or when his gf is in the box.
But I still love watching him even when he is losing.
ALLEZ STAAAN!!!
Stan looks lazy...maybe he doesn't like the heat...
He only seems to bother in slams or when his gf is in the box.
But I still love watching him even when he is losing.
ALLEZ STAAAN!!!
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What a FHDTL from Stan to break!!!
Just as I was (only hypothetically) asking myself who would pull the trigger first in that point...
Of course I knew it would be Stan.
Brilliant!!!
Just as I was (only hypothetically) asking myself who would pull the trigger first in that point...
Of course I knew it would be Stan.
Brilliant!!!
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