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Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:30 pm

Not long ago the first association with this tournament for me was Larry Ellison.

Now with Nadal off the radar, Larry must be desperate to reinvent his tournament, trying hard to work out how much sand to pour into paint. Winking

Well, I am glad those days are behind us!

Draw

http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/mds.pdf

Qualifying Draw
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/qs.pdf

Order of Play
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/404/op.pdf



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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:50 pm

The new generation in the main draw (from ATP website)


Frances Tiafoe (WC) No. 177 18 yrs., 1 month
Taylor Fritz (WC) No. 80 18 yrs., 4 months
Alexander Zverev No. 58 18 yrs, 10 months
Borna Coric No. 47 19 yrs, 3 months
Jared Donaldson (WC) No. 158 19 yrs, 4 months
Hyeon Chung No. 64 19 yrs, 9 months
Nick Kyrgios No. 27 20 yrs, 10 months
Kyle Edmund No. 82 21 yrs., 1 month

but forget about all of them...
Rubi is playing qualies vs Deverman today.
Wait till his wings get stronger! Winking

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:39 pm

Match of the Day:

Pouille-Coric
Chung-Ramos

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Autumnleaf on Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:25 pm

Rublev lost Berrer in QFR 2-6, 3-6. This guy who wanted to retire last year already seems to be a nightmare for young players. Also recently beat Coric easily.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:00 pm

Autumnleaf wrote:Rublev lost Berrer in QFR 2-6, 3-6. This guy who wanted to retire last year already seems to be a nightmare for young players. Also recently beat Coric easily.
Yes, I saw that... Sad

Berrer is a classic S&V-er so it doesn't surprise me he baffles young bashers who are now only taught to play from the baseline.
Plus, Rubi is not "fit" yet, so cannot grind Berrer like everyone else with keeping the ball in play safely with spin and muscle.

But Rubi is going about his develpoment the right way, his game will mature and get deadly in a few years.
He has real weapons.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:09 pm

Tiafoe is much more interesting than Fritz.

Playing on or a foot inside the baseline. And actually ENJOYING himself!


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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:50 pm

At last I can catch up on tennis.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:27 pm

I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!

This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.

A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.

Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.

From beiing a set down.

He is a complete opposite from Rublev.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:30 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!

This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.

A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.

Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.

From beiing a set down.

He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too! Winking

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:46 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!

This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.

A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.

Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.

From beiing a set down.

He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too! Winking
Naaaah, "Djoko" at 19 was a pussycat compared to Zverev in every way!

Zverev's not bad to watch, though.
Unlike Murray he has a serve and unlike Coric he has cleaner shots and more firepower.

But unlike Rublev, he has no/doesn't need guts and plays safe...which is why he is ranked a 100 places above him...
Also, he is fit enough to be winning grinding older players and arrogant enough to be changing shorts with his opponent serving at 3:4 in the third set.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:25 pm

I know it's very windy, but even Rosol & Mannarino playing dull, waiting for an UE modern tennis.

Some great shots from time to time.

Not enough to keep watching though...sad times for tennis.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:33 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe I'm supporting Dodig!!!

This Zverev is going to be a nasty/tough cookie.

A combination of Murray & Coric plus the Russian temper. And enough height to be having useful serve and wingspan.

Already well versed in gamesmanship, taking a toilet break in the changeover!!! disrupting Dodig's serve, breaking him and now serving for the match.

From beiing a set down.

He is a complete opposite from Rublev.
So besides, Murray and Coric, he has taken a leaf from Djoko's book too! Winking
Naaaah, "Djoko" at 19 was a pussycat compared to Zverev in every way!

Zverev's not bad to watch, though.
Unlike Murray he has a serve and unlike Coric he has cleaner shots and more firepower.

But unlike Rublev, he has no/doesn't need guts and plays safe...which is why he is ranked a 100 places above him...
Also, he is fit enough to be winning grinding older players and arrogant enough to be changing shorts with his opponent serving at 3:4 in the third set.
Yes but those big frames do suffer on a tennis court. It never going to be the future of tennis.


I have been wrong in the past though! Whistle

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:01 am

Tenez wrote:
Yes but those big frames do suffer on a tennis court. It never going to be the future of tennis.


I have been wrong in the past though! Whistle
I really hope,so!
Though, he doesn't look to be suffering at all...very lanky so covers the ground with big steps, rather than sprinting.


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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:03 am

Match of the Day:

Berdych-Del Potro (apparently Delpo playing really well already!)

Goffin-Tiafoe (shame it's so late, I saw Tiafoe beat Taylor Fritz, a really exciting and unusual player!)

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:32 am

Have I gone crazy, blind (or both! Yikes), I can't see Murray's name in the draw!

Is he...."injured"?


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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:55 am

noleisthebest wrote:Have I gone crazy, blind (or both! Yikes), I can't see Murray's name in the draw!

Is he...."injured"?


he was playing double last night.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:05 am

you r missing half the draw.....he is playing granoller...his spanish version!

lots of upsets amongst the youngs. Pouille being beaten by Coric!, Chung by an unknown...after having won the first set 6/2..goes on to lose 6/0. really weird.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:28 am

Tenez wrote:you r missing half the draw..... he is playing granoller...his spanish version!
Blush
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lots of upsets amongst the youngs. Pouille being beaten by Coric!, Chung by an unknown...after having won the first set 6/2..goes on to lose 6/0. really weird.
Chung lost to Ramos, that's the guy who cost Fed his number two year end rankng last year...and...

I saw a little of Pouille-Coric, in the first set, Pouille was not playing that well whereas Coric with his safe game was like fish in the water.

Pouille actually has a bit of a complicated service motion...it's a whole set of entire body movements/steps needed for a streamed  flow of coordination. It looks smooth but not as free and easy as it can be. It's not good old Goran's One-Two! thing.
(or, if you like it, just like my clunky paragraph I described it with...not poetry, but does the job! Winking )
But should get better with time, like Rubi.

Doesn't get that time to be free with his swing after the ball toss.

Second set looked closer score wise, but I didn't see it.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:54 pm

Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.

He is sooooo obnoxious.

And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:56 pm

I must say, it's really weird seeing Delpo play again.
Esp vs Berdych!

Like it's 2010 or stg....

He has worked on his footwork, I don't remember it being so nimble.

Looks impressive in fact, very happy for him.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by paulcz on Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:35 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.

He is sooooo obnoxious.

And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...

The new wave of youngsters looks pretty bad character wise, brainless Gyros, grunting Goric, affected Sashenka Zverev, neither Fritz nor Chung dont look promising. Only Dominic Thiem deserves a credit.
Not to forget a cyclop Rao, that is the real jackpot.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:40 pm

paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Kyrgios is the new Nadal for me now. I really want to see him get beaten.

He is sooooo obnoxious.

And I can't believe Hewitt is his coach now...

The new wave of youngsters looks pretty bad character wise, brainless Gyros, grunting Goric, affected Sashenka Zverev, neither Fritz nor Chung dont look promising. Only Dominic Thiem deserves a credit.
Not to forget a cyclop Rao, that is the real jackpot.

Laugh

Well at least Gyros lost!

This Tiafoe is not bad at all, just hope he is stable in the head, not like Young.


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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:44 pm

I just noticed half Murray's team is in Berdych's box now, esp when I see the photo on OTF's page!

Only his mum is still left by his side...

That explains why Berdych has improved his footwork, too.

If Jazz (or whatever the name of Murray's bald ex-fitness coach is) could turn Murray him into a RR, anything is possible!

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:45 pm

Delpo played a good first set, but having lost it in the TB is showing signs of rust...hopefully he gets fully ready for RG.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by DECIMA on Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:36 am

Vamos !

Did Larry fix the crowd ?? Crowd more pro-Nadal than home Spanish Davis Cup matches..

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by DECIMA on Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:37 am

Muller is a decent player, not frequent to see serve and volleyers, and he hit some great feel volleys tonight.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:20 am

Wow DT......you are still a big fan! Waking up at 4 to watch your man play a 34yo who could not move when he was 25....good on you. !

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:21 am

oh! Just saw the score! ...Imagine if Muller could move!

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Post by DECIMA on Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:56 pm

Tenez wrote:Wow DT......you are still a big fan! Waking up at 4 to watch your man play a 34yo who could not move when he was 25....good on you. !
Of course ! Bubbly

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:10 pm

He still made hard work of it!

He is indeed declining....faster than a 34yo!Winking

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Post by DECIMA on Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:15 pm

Tenez wrote:He still made hard work of it!

He is indeed declining....faster than a 34yo!Winking
If you're very tall and your game is based on serve a lot, then I think losing some speed is ok as long as you tactically improve and your serve stays around the same or improves... hence Muller and Karlovic are still doing quite well.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:37 pm

I saw a bit of tennis yesterday incl a few points of Nadal-Muller.

There were three good matches going on at the same time:
Dimi-Zverev
Thiem-Kovalik (Vajda sitting in his box!)
&
Paire-Mannarino

I decided to stay with the last one as of all those  6 players, (though I watched all 3 on and off) only Paire played properly: attacking, streamed, creative...in one word - exciting!

Yes, he lost, but I would've still paid for the ticket to see him.

It doesn't matter whether you win or lose even if you play as a pro.

The most important thing is how you play (with what you've been given, of course).

He really is so good to watch. He is deadlier even than Federer.
I am so glad he exists in the sea of bland spinning clones.

Dimi...oh poor Dimi...
Just as he started playing decent tennis, here comes an 18 year old to knock/grind him out in round one...despite being a break up in the third.

And from memory, Thiem beat Dimi recently, too.

He is in trouble.

Nishi looked quite fresh and striking the ball really well.

Nadal was hilarious trying to look the warrior, pumping himself after average shots and after winning his own service games like he won a slam.

It was just...

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:58 pm

There is only one Alexander Dolgopolov.
Only one.

For the zillionth time...what a serve!
What an athlete!

What light-footedness...

What an amazing quick serving arm.

Just love it!!!

love love love it!

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Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:19 pm

Yes...a great player (Dolgo) I agree! A genius in his own way,

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Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:43 pm

Is anyone watching Murray Delbonis? Murray is aked to hit winners out of dead balls.....not good at it. He ususally feeds his opponents with such balls. Delbonis, serving for the match.

Also Delbo's shots are very weird. I'd be curious to know his racquet tension....probably very low.

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Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:44 pm

High quality tennis between Dolgo and Gasquet.

Dolgo drawing out top level oit of Richie who is even attacking woth his FH.

But I want Dolgo to win this.

I am sick of spinned shots, even if they are from a SBH-er.

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Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:45 pm

Tenez wrote:Is anyone watching Murray Delbonis? Murray is aked to hit winners out of dead balls.....not good at it. He ususally feeds his opponents with such balls. Delbonis, serving for the match.

Also Delbo's shots are very weird. I'd be curious to know his racquet tension....probably very low.

I tried to watch at the beginning of 3rd set...only to see Delbonis serve into the opposite service box Doh...followed by some horror shots from both, not thanks for me.

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Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:00 pm

yet you missed the nice ending!

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Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:00 pm

Hehe, I couldn't resist so I watched the TB.
It was worth it!

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:25 pm

Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.

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Post by ... on Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:28 pm

Tenez wrote:Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.
I didn't watch the third set.
But seeing the score 6:1, it looks like the fitter player won.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:22 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Very pooor match between Dolgo and gasquet.
I didn't watch the third set.
But seeing the score 6:1, it looks like the fitter player won.
yep...the less injured,

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Post by Autumnleaf on Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:21 am

Tenez wrote:yep...the less injured,

Dolgopolov is injured again? Missed the first and the second set of that match and the third was a horror show from him. Can't say much about Gasquet either, because Dolgopolov just kept hitting UFEs.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:09 pm

He was not moving in that last set. He was banging his racquet against his legs. Not sure how bad it was but he certainly did not try hard....or coudl not run much.

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:57 am

Match of the Day:

Nadal-Zverev

Should be really good!
Past Simple vs Future Perfect.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:36 pm

oh yeah.....when is this?

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by Tenez on Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:42 pm

Goffin playing really well...but Stan has an average time between points of 12!! isn't that tanking? double break for Goffin.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:48 pm

Amazing tennis between Goffin and Wawrinka. Lovely shots!

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:16 pm

I am not that fussed about Goffin.

Stan looks lazy...maybe he doesn't like the heat...

He only seems to bother in slams or when his gf is in the box.

But I still love watching him even when he is losing.

ALLEZ STAAAN!!! diva

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Re: Masters 1000: Indian Wells

Post by ... on Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:40 pm

What a FHDTL from Stan to break!!!

Just as I was (only hypothetically) asking myself who would pull the trigger first in that point...
Of course I knew it would be Stan.

Brilliant!!!

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