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ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

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ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:37 am

Monday morning....:Sad
8.30, no more AO matches... Sad
Sigh...Sad
Deep breath....
February the first...
Another deep breath!

That's better!  Somersault

Montpellier, indoor hard

Order of play
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/375/op.pdf



Sofia, indoor hard



Order of play:
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/7434/op.pdf

Quito, outdoor clay



Order of play:
http://www.protennislive.com/posting/2016/7161/op.pdf

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:04 am

Match of the day:
Gulbis-Halys (the new Frenchie that gave Djokovic a good match in R2 of Oz open)

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:13 am

Here's the current ranking, Federer not that far behind Murray.
Included players' age stat.


1 Novak Djokovic 28.7 SRB 16790
2 Andy Murray 28.7 GBR1 8945
3 Roger Federer 34.4 SUI1 8795
4 Stan Wawrinka 30.8 SUI2 6325
5 Rafael Nadal 29.6 ESP1 4880
6 David Ferrer 33.8 ESP2 4325

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:48 am

Berrer beat Doric in two sets yesterday...

Match of the day...ooo-la-laaaa! 6pm

Gulbis-Gasquet

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Autumnleaf on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:41 am

noleisthebest wrote:Match of the day:
Gulbis-Halys (the new Frenchie that gave Djokovic a good match in R2 of Oz open)

Enjoyable match between the 2. Gulbis won out slightly on consistency(!). Halys needs to improve his shot selection, but imho he has a lot of room for improvement because his fundamentals look solid which is a good thing. What a pity, one of them had to lose. Would have liked to see more of Halys.

Coric is stagnating for now. I can't see much improvement and he gets rightly spanked by guys like Berrer. That second set could have been even more one-sided. Coric fought off BPs in another service game of his. Average ROS (nothing like young Djokovic there, did he have even one BP? Not in the time I saw the match anyway.) and prone to bad service games, looks uncomfortable on offense.

Disappointed by Chung's loss, but I don't know what happened there. He is 0-3 now in ATP level indoor matches.

Good thing to have such tournaments where the winner isn't preordained. My interest in the AO reached an all-time low this year, culminating in yet another Murrovic final.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:59 am

Yo Bro! (AL)

Good to see someone following tennis outside slams...
Lots of quality talent coming through, so the future is not that bleak.

I just hope that this superfitness craze does not turn into epidemic.
(though Coric and Zverev are definitely on that path).

My only consolation is that it's not easy to reach and maintain Djokovic's and Murray's level of fitness (although I am sure Tenez will try to reassure me there...)...you really have to be almost supernaturally dedicated, driven and focused...as well as being able to afford the team to worry about your body etc...not many can watch every morsel and subject their bodies to such levels of torture for so long.
I don't think it's even worth it...

The gap is quite big as we could see in Nole-Nishi match.

But at least long rallies have gone out of fashion, which is why even Nadal has done the unthinkable and moved closer to baseline.

Still, the game is even more physical now with hard hitting...just crazy!

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:31 pm

Gulbis-Gasquet looking so last century in Montpellier...

Pure baseline tennis, metres behind the basline, long rallies, hard court but like clay..

Haven't seen Gulbis for ages!
Still belting his FH the same odd/old way.

Hard to believe he was pushing Djokovic in the RG SF two years ago...

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:03 pm

It's weird seeing Gasquet "Djoko-ing" Gulbis.

Poor Earnie....

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:51 pm

I would like to see a Rublev-Zverev match soon.
Same age, Rubi 6cm shorter (192).

Both Russian, Zverev brought up in Germany.
Rubi born and bred in Moscow.

Zverev, though emotional is controlled...and he plays like that, too.
Big serve, but the rest is same as Murray - counterpunching amd running down a lot of balls with his long legs and arms.

He is no Little Dragon!

Stil...just won a TB against Cilic.

Why do attackers take longer to break through!!! Grr

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:00 pm

Is rublev or Chung playing this week?

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:08 pm

Rubi isn't.
Chung lost to Copil yesterday in straights. I didn't see it, but was surprised with the score.

I saw Copil in Roehampton, he is Rubi's doubles mate, a Romanian. Nothing special.

We both sat at the same table in the garden outside the restaurant...he was eating his really basic pasta meal, I recognised him and asked him how he was going - he said he lost...and that was the end of that conversation...

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by luvsports! on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:21 pm

He's got a monster serve copil. Big hitter but nada special.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:35 pm

That's weird...cause Chung usually is very good at returning.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:50 pm

Wow, so Zverev beat Cilic in two TBs.
Not surprised, Cilic looked nervous while I watched, he couldn't hit through Zverev.
He brings everything back and covers the court with ease being lanky.
Playing Berrer tomorrow, and Berrer beat Coric.

Richie looked very fit today -he is playing Baghdatis next..who I always think is older than he is...incl Gasquet, but isn't.

I don't know why I always think he's Fed's and Hewitt's generation...must be that 20th century game he plays...

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:55 pm

That was a cool match between Brown and Simon.
Brown was bombing 2nd serves at 228 kmph...so much tennis skill & a brilliant showman.

Simon looked a bit flat but had his moments, too.

Great tennis and a welcome break from all that spin...

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:34 am

I need to catch up with those players ...I have not watched much tennis recently.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:01 am

I haven't seen much either, but caught a few sets of Gasquet, Brown...
Zverev-Cilic was a reminder of times to come.

For some reason AO just didn't touch me. 
There was very little exciting tennis with lot of shiny muscles glistening in the sun.
Players looked strained, suffering and not enjoying themselves.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:07 am

Match of the Day:

Gasquet-Baghdatis (a question: who is older of the two?)

Brown-Belmans (the Belgian who did well against GB in Davis Cup)

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:25 am

I think gasquet might be older.....I m checking now.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:26 am

Wrong! It's Bghda. Older by exactly a year and a day!

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:08 pm

Tenez wrote:Wrong! It's Bghda. Older by exactly a year and a day!
I was surprised to see the dates, too, except I thought Baggy was older..about 34.
To me he plays same game/era as Hewitt and HP Mathieu etc...maybe that's why...was never able to "look" younger with his tennis.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:32 pm

Baghy was 19 when he took a set of 23yo federer at the USO. Baghy was known for his monstrous FH at the time. Nowadays he is almost see as a weaponless player.

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Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:57 pm

I never remembered Baggy as a FH monster, just a good all-round quality light-weight player, for some strange reason he reminds me of Jelena Jankovic.

Anyway, his match with Richie about to start.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:08 pm

Tenez wrote:Baghy was 19 when he took a set of 23yo federer at the USO. Baghy was known for his monstrous FH at the time. Nowadays he is almost see as a weaponless player.
I know what you mean...nothing is as it used to be any more.
The era of "organic" tennis is finished.

For me it happened when Robredo beat Fed in USO 2013.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:25 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Baghy was 19 when he took a set of 23yo federer at the USO. Baghy was known for his monstrous FH at the time. Nowadays he is almost see as a weaponless player.
I know what you mean...nothing is as it used to be any more.
The era of "organic" tennis is finished.

For me it happened when Robredo beat Fed in USO 2013.

That was really down to Fed's bad back.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:31 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Baghy was 19 when he took a set of 23yo federer at the USO. Baghy was known for his monstrous FH at the time. Nowadays he is almost see as a weaponless player.
I know what you mean...nothing is as it used to be any more.
The era of "organic" tennis is finished.

For me it happened when Robredo beat Fed in USO 2013.

That was really down to Fed's bad back.
Yes, but for me it stayed as the end of the 90" frame.

Now, everyone is playing with 100" more or less. That's why the court has shrunk.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:34 pm

Cool to see Baggy win the whole game by playing S&V tennis.
If he can do it, what is stopping everyone else?

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:31 pm

...But Baggy lost!

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:27 pm

He did. Maybe he wouldn't have lost if he'd s&v-ed not just in that one game.

So why didn't he?


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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:02 am

Match of the day:

Gasquet-Brown

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:24 pm

Is Nadal going to defend his South America points this year?

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:16 pm

tough first round for Chung in Rotterdam....Garcia-Lopez.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:32 pm

Tenez wrote:Is Nadal going to defend his South America points this year?
I think he is playing there next few weeks.
This is going to be a tough year for his humble ego.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:33 pm

Tenez wrote:tough first round for Chung in Rotterdam....Garcia-Lopez.
He should be able to handle him unless he is injured.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:46 pm

GL is a very good player, able to bother baseliners...let's see.

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:07 pm

Zverev has more potential than Coric.
Once he piles some muscles on, he'll be hard to hit past.

Doing well against an in-form PH Mathieu.

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:09 pm

That was a nice little set/match between PHM & Zverev. Esp PHM's clean hitting.

Two different eras, but a good contest. Zverev already a good competitor, similar to Coric.
We do have quite an interesting wave of young players coming...I really don't fear for popularity of tennis.

I've had enough of current stalemate.

And now match of the day: Richie-Brown.
Should be fun!

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:15 pm

Brown has an amazingly quick serving arm...similar to Dolgo.

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:31 pm

Brown burning the air with his laser fast flat shots...so relaxed!

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:41 pm

Brown playing GOAT tennis! cracker Applause Bubbly

First set 6:1 (three breaks) - and no, there is nothing wrong with Gasquet - he is reduced to a spectator.

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:51 pm

Richie gets broken at the beginning of 2nd set...and smashes his racquet, I don't remember him ever showing any frustration...but Dustin is rocking and rolling.
Superb tennis!

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Post by ... on Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:08 pm

I've cursed Brown. Sad
Looks like he has run out of magic dust.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:16 pm

Gasquet and Agut are the winners of the week.

Good to see PHM coming back in the top 100....at 34! after so many injuries.

I was listening to Paire saying he was fed up with tennis. His body constantly hurting. "getting on a tennis court pisses me off. I just want to play football with friends...."

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Post by ... on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:43 pm

I don't blame him.

In fact, that's why I like him...he does not compromise...there is a point beyond which it's not worth pushing mind and body.

He is in tune with his soul.

What Djokovic and Murray are doing is too much. 
Nole's ambition and current focus in particular are unbelievable.

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Re: ATP 250: Montpellier, Sofia, Quito

Post by Tenez on Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:55 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I don't blame him.

In fact, that's why I like him...he does not compromise...there is a point beyond which it's not worth pushing mind and body.

He is in tune with his soul.

What Djokovic and Murray are doing is too much. 
Nole's ambition and current focus in particular are unbelievable.

His fitness is so good, it takes much less strain on everything else.

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