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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:33 pm

One joker and number of sets to guess for Roger?Doko would double up.

Mannarino (FRA)/Pouille (FRA) 25 v Murray (GBR)/Soares (BRA) [15]
Williams (USA) [20 v Radwanska (POL) [40]
Angelique Kerber (GER) [25] v Johanna Konta (25)
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [30] v Roger Federer (SUI) [60] (it's the final hence number of points. Guess right number of sets x2..plus djoker posible x4!!
Nestor (CAN)/Stepanek (CZE) 25v Cuevas (URU) [16]/Granollers (ESP) [15]


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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:35 pm

Mannarino (FRA)/Pouille (FRA) 25
Williams (USA) [20
Johanna Konta (25)
Roger Federer (SUI) [60] in 4 sets.joker
Cuevas (URU) [16]/Granollers (ESP) [15]

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Re: Australian Open 2016 - Day 11 (and predictions)

Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:52 pm

Mannarino (FRA)/Pouille (FRA) 25 (so happy for the pair! Saw them on court 14 last Wimbledon play terribly against Kubot/Mirnyi, even joked with Planque that he needed to teach his boy to volley...ALLEZ!!! diva)
Williams (USA) [20]
Angelique Kerber (GER) [25]
Novak Djokovic (SRB) [30] in 4 sets jester
Nestor (CAN)/Stepanek (CZE) 25

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Re: Australian Open 2016 - Day 11 (and predictions)

Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:04 pm

This AO maybe fed's best opportunity with 2 days between the semi and final.

He just has to give 120% tomorrow.

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Post by noleisthebest on Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:22 pm

Yes, I agree, he's got a great chance tomorrow being fresh.

If the match was played in day conditions I'd've picked Fed in 4.

But only because it's in the evening I chose Nole in 4.

I have a feeling Nole wants this one badly in order to turn H2H. Fed's always been able to fend him off so far.
If he wins tomorrow, he'll be very hard to stop the whole year as he will have got rid of his last demon, with the exception of maybe winning RG trophy.

He'll leave sweat, blood and tears on court tomorrow.

Will be a great battle.

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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:41 pm

Yes....After being stopped many times only by Nadal, now fed is being stopped only by Djoko.


Very unlucky in a way.

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Post by Daniel on Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:20 pm

He was stopped by Nadal due to bad match up - and it was mainly on clay during his prime.  Nadal could do virtually nothing to stop his dominance at all other slams.  His problem with Djok is entirely due to decline and age.  The worst thing is Djok is like Nadal except without the bad match up. Not sometjing you want to play against at 34.

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Post by luvsports! on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:02 pm

Murray
Williams
Kerber
Djokovic (Joker) 3 sets
Stepanek


Silly goose:
Murray
williams
kerber
djoko (joker) in 4
Nestor

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Post by summerblues on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:01 pm

Mannarino/Pouille
Williams
Kerber
Federer, 3sets, joker
Nestor/Stepanek


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Post by Tenez on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:15 pm

FedererKing wrote:He was stopped by Nadal due to bad match up - and it was mainly on clay during his prime.  Nadal could do virtually nothing to stop his dominance at all other slams.  His problem with Djok is entirely due to decline and age.  The worst thing is Djok is like Nadal except without the bad match up. Not sometjing you want to play against at 34.

yeah...right!

Don't you think Djoko makes everybody look older too?

So Bizarre a Soon 29 yo Djoko past his prime makes everybody else look even older.

You don;t want to learn do you?

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:46 am

Anyone watching doubles?

I am imoressed with Pouille!!!!!!

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Post by Tenez on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:50 am

Just watched a bit.....trying to sleep now. Actually Pouille messed up a couple of BPs.

Good night.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:56 am

Yes he did...as soon as I made that comment.
Good night.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:03 am

Jamie Murray looks pathetic copying Brian Brothers style of in your face physical presence.

He didn't us to be like that...

Manna and Pouille should not lose to this pair.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:28 am

Pouille likes the net. This should be a good experience for him.
Mannarino's shots are so good...but neither are used to doubles playing...which is why they are losing...Sad

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:44 am

Hugh Jass: 
Williams
Murray
Kerber
Djoko (joker) 4 sets
cuevas

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:51 am

3-0 already Sad

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Re: Australian Open 2016 - Day 11 (and predictions)

Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:59 am

Fed produces his worst tennis in slams against Djoko every time.
Nothing to do with Djoko's shots, more so the hurdle as a whole he is for Fed. Fed misses bread and butter shots right from the start.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:02 am

And now Djoko start to play very well too, he knows he has nothing to fear when Fed is this tight

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:06 am

That missed volley....he's been making those with his eyes closed 99 out of 100 times, but not against Djoko

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:09 am

Rod Laver Arena at night for Nole is what Chatrier used to be for Nadal.
It's his den.

I have missed first two games, but from the rest it looks like Nole actually wants to thrash Federer like he thrashed Nadal in Doha.
He wants to make a statement.
That is coming straight from Becker.

I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH timing is off, and it can' be the hard-hit balls from Nole.

Let's see how the match progresses....

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:12 am

Fed tryng to change things: moving back on returns, mixing uo balls changing pace & lenght with chips and slices but this court does not reward his subtle variety.

This court at night favours fitness and raw power.

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Post by luvsports! on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:14 am

6-1 2-1 Sad

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:18 am

noleisthebest wrote:
I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH timing is off, and it can' be the hard-hit balls from Nole.
like their last 4 slam meetings... Fed is in the same self-destuct mode like he was against Nadal most of the time
Djoko is fully taking advantage from it, he is completely comfortable now and playing very well.

Nevertheless, I will never buy it's about Djoko's shots, unless someone can convince me Simon is a better player than FEdeder

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:28 am

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH timing is off, and it can' be the hard-hit balls from Nole.
like their last 4 slam meetings... Fed is in the same self-destuct mode like he was against Nadal most of the time
Djoko is fully taking advantage from it, he is completely comfortable now and playing very well.

Nevertheless, I will never buy it's about Djoko's shots, unless someone can convince me Simon is a better player than FEdeder
I haven't seen Nole-Simon, but it was played in daytime wasn't it?

I think it's a combination of tight Fed and evening conditions.
Nole is absolutely pummeling Fed's serve, returning it hard and fast at his shoe-laces.
Frd is defending most of time even on his own serve, he's got nothing to help him.

Fed also hitting into Nole's striking zone, really not even asking him any questions.

Fed can't evn get his serve in now...not a nice viewing...I've never seen him so dejected.

I wouldn't read too much into this match.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:29 am

RG 2008 anyone?

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:33 am

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH timing is off, and it can' be the hard-hit balls from Nole.
like their last 4 slam meetings... Fed is in the same self-destuct mode like he was against Nadal most of the time
Djoko is fully taking advantage from it, he is completely comfortable now and playing very well.

Nevertheless, I will never buy it's about Djoko's shots, unless someone can convince me Simon is a better player than FEdeder
I haven't seen Nole-Simon, but it was played in daytime wasn't it?

I think it's a combination of tight Fed and evening conditions.
Nole is absolutely pummeling Fed's serve, returning it hard and fast at his shoe-laces.
Frd is defending most of time even on his own serve, he's got nothing to help him.

Fed also hitting into Nole's striking zone, really not even asking him any questions.

Fed can't evn get his serve in now...not a nice viewing...I've never seen him so dejected.

I wouldn't read too much into this match.
The thing is Nitb: Fed was playing poor before Djoko was playing this well (or let's say before any questions were asked). That's no incident, it happens every time the last 4 years on big occasions. It's very much alike Fedal.
Djoko must be feeling high, toying with the GOAT like this. We've seen that too in Fedal matches, the more depressed Fed got, the more cocky Nadal got.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:35 am

Fed needs to have a toilet break after the second set amd reset that service button in his head if he can.

Strong serve was his only chance tonight.



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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:44 am

gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH
I wouldn't read too much into this match.
The thing is Nitb: Fed was playing poor before Djoko was playing this well (or let's say before any questions were asked). That's no incident, it happens every time the last 4 years on big occasions. It's very much alike Fedal.
Djoko must be feeling high, toying with the GOAT like this. We've seen that too in Fedal matches, the more depressed Fed got, the more cocky Nadal got.
There is an element of that, some dodgy shot selection...but I really think it's to do with conditions. In Cinci or Dubai it's a different story...there is no pressure in his head there.
The score is exhaggerated.

Nole is making the most of Federer being completely neutralised by them. I am convinced it would not have been like this with fast flying balls of day session.

Tennis looks totally different then.

This one is to forget for Fed. As fast as possible.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:48 am

He won 5 games and did now better than RG 2008. That's a relief erm

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:55 am

I haven't seen any long rallies today.

Tennis has moved on. The way Nole is winning is just with returning deep and hard he gets himself into an instant dictating position...no pressure.

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:58 am

noleisthebest wrote:
gallery play wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
I don't know why Fed is so shellshocked - his serve is off, his FH
I wouldn't read too much into this match.
The thing is Nitb: Fed was playing poor before Djoko was playing this well (or let's say before any questions were asked). That's no incident, it happens every time the last 4 years on big occasions. It's very much alike Fedal.
Djoko must be feeling high, toying with the GOAT like this. We've seen that too in Fedal matches, the more depressed Fed got, the more cocky Nadal got.
There is an element of that, some dodgy shot selection...but I really think it's to do with conditions. In Cinci or Dubai it's a different story...there is no pressure in his head there.
The score is exhaggerated.

Nole is making the most of Federer being completely neutralised by them. I am convinced it would not have been like this with fast flying balls of day session.

Tennis looks totally different then.

This one is to forget for Fed. As fast as possible.

Regardless the conditions, the thought of the task to take 3 sets of Djoko has a paralyzing effect on Federer. Fed knows he nowadays can only play well for 90 minutes so needs to play perfect throughout. After a few ball exchanges it doesn't feel perfect and that's where he loses faith and transforms in a C version of himself.
Even in dubai or Cincy he can't beat Djoko if he has to play a third set. He's simply too old that that!

The effort he still puts in this match is purely out of respect for the audience.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:02 am

What a point for the BP!
And the first long-ish rally.

The bigger frame has been pure gold for Fed's BH.

This will be the point he can build on after this match.
It started with the short chipped return on Nole's 2nd serve, and that shot worked so well to disturb his rhythm and footwork in their first 15WTF match.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:05 am

Basically on a slow court Nole is mission impossble atm.
Unless you can blow him off court which I don't think Raonic can.

He even didn't have to resort to any long rally grinding tonight, and that's his big safety net.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:06 am

Who is this "woman" sitting next to Laver, looks like a travestite! Yikes

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:06 am

Fed  takes the fourth bp this game and takes a 4-2 lead. Now watch Djoko break back

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:07 am

Break!

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:08 am

All those missed FH's from neutral balls...

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:08 am

gallery play wrote:Fed  takes the fourth bp this game and takes a 4-2 lead. Now watch Djoko break back
Yep!
He is riled, note how hard he is striking the ball!

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:10 am

gallery play wrote:All those missed FH's from neutral balls...
He needs to rework his FH somehow with Ivan.
Take it a bit earlier more often...but it's hard with his serve being so shaky tonight.

And he holds serve!

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:11 am

Federer really is a gallery player Winking 
He knows he can't win this match but does all he can to satisfy the audience

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:13 am

gallery play wrote:Federer really is a gallery player Winking 
He knows he can't win this match but does all he can to satisfy the audience
Are you tryng to say something here? Whistle

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:22 am

2:1!

Nobody thrashes the GOAT! Winking

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:22 am

Only 1 first serve that last game but somehow Fed manages to win it.
The funny thing is, Fed started to rally more this set and.. wins it

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:23 am

gallery play wrote:Only 1 first serve that last game but somehow Fed manages to win it.
The funny thing is, Fed started to rally more this set and.. wins it
Yes, because in those rallies he messes Nole's footowrk.
That's how he beats him every time.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:32 am

Roof closing (break).
Who will benefit from it?

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:35 am

Federer not only serves poor, his returning is even worse. It's amazing he took a set

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Post by gallery play on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:36 am

This can only be an easy set for Djoko

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:36 am

From 00:30, Nole holds first service game in the 4th set.
This fir the time fir Fed to pounce butnhis FH lets him down. Steps in in the 2nd serve and nets the return...

That is the one that worries me.

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Post by noleisthebest on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:38 am

Fed is just playng by the ear now...

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