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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:27 am

Murray 50- Raonic 80

(since all other matches have been finished for today)

Double joker, one for correct winner the other for number of sets & winner.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:29 am

Not very excited about this match...don't know who annoys me more of the two...and this is a siam semi-final!!!!!
Stuff dreams are made of Wah

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:32 am

I have a solution!!!

Instead of banning dbh, there should be two halves of the draw - one with only SBH-ers and the other with only DBH-ers.

They would only meet in the final!

That way, we'd be guaranteed decent matches throughout the entire tournament. diva

It's not a perfect solution, but...
What do you all think?

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:34 am

I nearly forgot...
Murray in 4

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:48 am

This one won't count as the others won't be able to jooin on time. But

I'll say Murray in 3 despite losing his service game.


I'd like rao to win as I know Murrray will have less of a chance to beat Djoko in teh final. At leats Rao coudl have a great service day.....

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Post by luvsports! Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:57 am

Murray in 4 still imo.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:59 am

I can't believe these commentators praising Raonic's volleying...don't they have eyes!!!

The guy is a robot held by one screw.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:04 am

Rqonic's fh technique is quite interesting, his swinging arm stays and finishes quite close to the body, yet he gets loads of pace and hits cleanly.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:12 am

Ajde Milose, leba ti!!!!

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:14 am

noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe these commentators praising Raonic's volleying...don't they have eyes!!!

The guy is a robot held by one screw.

Against those baseliners robots, you want a volleyer's robot!

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:22 am

I can't believe how bad that set point call was...well done Raonic for challenging it.

Imagine if there was no hawkeye...

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:23 am

noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe how bad that set point call was...well done Raonic for challenging it.

Imagine if there was no hawkeye...

Exactly!

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:23 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I can't believe these commentators praising Raonic's volleying...don't they have eyes!!!

The guy is a robot held by one screw.

Against those baseliners robots, you want a volleyer's robot!
I must say I am beginning to warm up to him, he is funny in his Montenegrin ways...

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Post by luvsports! Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:26 am

wow 6-4, murray in trouble.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:28 am

Watching Murray grind now shows how his tennis is actually very far behind Nole's.
He is just one spot behind him in the ranking but miles behind on the court.

He's got nothing to challenge him with.

It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:34 am

I read how Murray doesn't like to watch his on-court antics and outbursts post-match...and you can see he is making an effort to curb them today.

But...at the same time it's not him, is it?
I reckon it's a matter of time befire he loses his cool...if he wants to win this match, that is...

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:35 am

Rao's FHs and Bhs have turned conservative. That's bad....he needs to go full throttle Like kevin Ansderson at the USO....otherwise he is cooked.

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:37 am

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It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

I don;t think so...they just need confidence. A Nishi on a good day will take Djoko out easily. Djoko looks better than he is. You will see.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:39 am

Tenez wrote:Rao's FHs and Bhs have turned conservative. That's bad....he needs to go full throttle Like kevin Ansderson at the USO....otherwise he is cooked.
Yes, but he isn't that type of player...that's what I've been saying all these years - he is very tight inside.
I din't know whether that's frim pressure (which is curable) or just his make-up.

I think it's the former.

He needs to get rid of everyine around him and be his own man. No mum no dad, no hopes of Canada on hs shoulders... But is he that strong?

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:40 am

Tenez wrote:
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It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

I don;t think so...they just need confidence. A Nishi on a good day will take Djoko out easily. Djoko looks better than he is. You will see.

Their main problem is not Djoko's shots but the fact they are playing the number 1.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:42 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

I don;t think so...they just need confidence. A Nishi on a good day will take Djoko out easily. Djoko looks better than he is. You will see.
I watched him closely yesterday, he's added lots of shots and maturing, as well...plus he is a very intelligent player.

In current conditions that seems to be enough.

Players like Anderson or Kokkinakis, basically stronger versions of Simon could hurt him now...if they believed.

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:46 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

I don;t think so...they just need confidence. A Nishi on a good day will take Djoko out easily. Djoko looks better than he is. You will see.
I watched him closely yesterday, he's added lots of shots and maturing, as well...plus he is a very intelligent player.

In current conditions that seems to be enough.

Players like Anderson or Kokkinakis, basically stronger versions of Simon could hurt him now...if they believed.

It's his legs and stamina. Otherwise, there is not much difference between him Simon or even a young Chung. So someone with weapons from both wings (like Nishi) can take him out any day.

I have not watched yetserday match but I suspect federer made him look better than he is.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:52 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
It will have to be someone new...there are a few immediate potential candidates but they all need at least a year if not two to complete their game.

I don;t think so...they just need confidence. A Nishi on a good day will take Djoko out easily. Djoko looks better than he is. You will see.
I watched him closely yesterday, he's added lots of shots and maturing, as well...plus he is a very intelligent player.

In current conditions that seems to be enough.

Players like Anderson or Kokkinakis, basically stronger versions of Simon could hurt him now...if they believed.

It's his legs and stamina. Otherwise, there is not much difference between him Simon or even a young Chung. So someone with weapons from both wings (like Nishi) can take him out any day.

I have not watched yetserday match but I suspect federer made him look better than he is.

He did and that was a shock to me...I've never seen Fed cave in like that before.
He was actually lucky Nole had a physicall dip/relaxed a bit in the third set.

I think what got  to Fed was Nole's determination to trounce him. Still, Imdidn't expect him to retrive into his shll.
It was really weird.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:57 am

Can Murray be considered a great returner standing so far bind the baseline on returns?

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:03 am

noleisthebest wrote:Can Murray be considered a great returner standing so far bind the baseline on returns?

he is usually not. And even though he stands back a lot, by the time he hits the ball he is much closer.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:05 am

It's funny to see Murray excited after putting away that pretty standard CC drive volley out of the air...shouting "I'm fird uuup!!!" to his box..imagine how he'd feel if he could rip a SBHDTL all the time like Fed or Stan do...

Just shows how really hard and unnatural it is for him to attack.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:12 am

That was a great BH volley from Murray for 15:00!!!
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Post by luvsports! Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:17 am

Bo3 shootout from ere.

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:25 am

rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:33 am

Rao only returned well in that very first game.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:33 am

Tenez wrote:rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!
Good point.
It's all in his head and in a way on his racquet. Thinly, but there.
If he can beat himself he'll win the match and finally break through in his own brain.
Will be interesting to see...

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:39 am

Tenez wrote:rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!

Raonic needs to be serving ahead, he doesn't do too well when he is serving to stay in touch..

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:51 am

Whatever happens, Raonic is a tractor.

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:55 am

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Tenez wrote:rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!

Raonic needs to be serving ahead, he doesn't do too well when he is serving to stay in touch..

he lost 2 points on his serve in that 3rd set....

Problem is when he has to serve it out....or stay in the set.....when pressure is highest...he is not so good.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:05 am

Tenez wrote:
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Tenez wrote:rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!

Raonic needs to be serving ahead, he doesn't do too well when he is serving to stay in touch..

he lost 2 points on his serve in that 3rd set....

Problem is when he has to serve it out....or stay in the set.....when pressure is highest...he is not so good.

Yeah.. that's a big that is lacking.. sports psychology can help?

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:09 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:
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Tenez wrote:rao should not panick cause murray does tire. And if he loses half a step, the court will look much bigger for rao!

Raonic needs to be serving ahead, he doesn't do too well when he is serving to stay in touch..

he lost 2 points on his serve in that 3rd set....

Problem is when he has to serve it out....or stay in the set.....when pressure is highest...he is not so good.

Yeah.. that's a big that is lacking.. sports psychology can help?
No, only cutting the umbillical cord from his mum (and dad) will.

Serbs are notorious for being mummy's boys. Not all but most.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:10 am

Watching Raonic struggle on his BH reminded me of how good & smooth Delpo was...

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:16 am

noleisthebest wrote:Watching Raonic struggle on his BH reminded me of how good & smooth Delpo was...

Delpo is into histroy books..

But Now Raonic takes the 3rd set...

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:17 am

Well done "Rao"!

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:17 am

Murray should not be allowed to shout long after he hit the ball like in that return at 3/2 in the TB!

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:21 am

My £1 I started betting with a few days ago has grown into £15.78! diva

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:21 am

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No, only cutting the umbillical cord from his mum (and dad) will.

Serbs are notorious for being mummy's boys. Not all but most.
We are privileged here to have an insight into Balkanians psychology! Winking

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:23 am

How much weight Murray's expecting wife will play into that match now that he is 2 sets to 1 down?

the weight of a pregnant woman?

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Post by gallery play Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:24 am

Any ideas about who would secure a better final?
I guess the final is doomed anyway

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:27 am

noleisthebest wrote:My £1 I started betting with a few days ago has grown into £15.78! diva
This time next year, I'll be a millionaire!! Australian Open 2015 Day 12 3755116760

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Post by Tenez Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:29 am

gallery play wrote:Any ideas about who would secure a better final?
I guess the final is doomed anyway

yes it is a bit doomed.....but I certainly think Rao will have a better chance....cause he will play with nothing to lose and I think he can make Rao nervous!

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:31 am

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
No, only cutting the umbillical cord from his mum (and dad) will.

Serbs are notorious for being mummy's boys. Not all but most.
We are privileged here to have an insight into Balkanians psychology! Winking
Pleasure! smiley

It's a miracle Nole has been able to curb his emotions. We all think it's because he trained in Germany from the age of 12, so had to leave his parents.
Same goes for Sharapova.
The only Russian with relentless steel.


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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:39 am

Raonic is right to be very upset with line calls.
Thankfully, no foot faults...yet...

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:40 am

gallery play wrote:Any ideas about who would secure a better final?
I guess the final is doomed anyway
Definitely the one with Raonic.
If nothing else, for the future...it would give him huge comfidence boost, and he will then be very dangerous on clay.

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Post by noleisthebest Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:05 pm

Raonic has no feel in his hands.
But it's all part of being so uptight.

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