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Post by Tenez Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:00 pm

One joker....

Angelique Kerber (GER) [17] v Victoria Azarenka (BLR) [24]
Johanna Konta (GBR) 23 v Shuai Zhang (CHN) 23
David Ferrer (ESP)28 v Andy Murray (GBR) 20
Gael Monfils (FRA) [33] v Milos Raonic (CAN) [23]
Hingis (SUI) [1]/Mirza (IND) [10] v Julia Goerges (GER) [13]/Pliskova (CZE) [20]
Yi-Fan Xu (CHN)/Zheng (CHN) [20] v Hlavackova (CZE)/Hradecka (CZE) [10]

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Post by luvsports! Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:22 pm

Azarenka
Konta,
Murray (joker)
Raonic
Hingis
Zheng

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Post by Tenez Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:29 pm

Victoria Azarenka (BLR) [24] joker
Shuai Zhang (CHN) 23
David Ferrer (ESP)28
Gael Monfils (FRA) [33]
Hingis (SUI) [1]/Mirza (IND) [10]
Yi-Fan Xu (CHN)/Zheng (CHN) [20]

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Post by noleisthebest Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:44 pm

Victoria Azarenka (BLR) [24]  jester
Johanna Konta (GBR) 23
Andy Murray (GBR) 20
Gael Monfils (FRA) [33]
Hingis (SUI) [1]/Mirza (IND) [10]
Hlavackova (CZE)/Hradecka (CZE) [10]

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Post by luvsports! Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:30 pm

Silly goose: Vika (joker)
Konta,
Murray
Raonic
Hingis
Hlav

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Post by luvsports! Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:06 pm

Huugh Jass: Aza (joker)
Zhang
Murray
Monfils
Hingis
Hlad/hrav

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Post by summerblues Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:27 pm

Azarenka
Zhang
Murray (joker)
Raonic
Hingis/Mirza
Hlavackova/Hradecka

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:01 am

Set point Ferru... now get it... Murray should be left moping..

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:11 am

1-1 sets.. Get it Ferru...

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:00 am

Ferru going down.. Murray fitter, stronger and faster... the bigger energizer bunny...

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:05 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Ferru going down.. Murray fitter, stronger and faster... the bigger energizer bunny...

yep...against nature's law!

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:05 am

raiders_of_the_lost_ark wrote:Ferru going down..Murray fitter, stronger and faster... the bigger energizer bunny...
Laugh  but I should  Wah

That is so true....
I remember the days when Ferrer was a force against Murray and even Djokovic...and now...he is like a little kid compared to them.

I watched two sets of Murray-Ferrer in RG last year and could not believe how striking the physical difference of Murray's shots was...shame tv can convey it.
It really was like a senior vs a junior, and the court looked small for Murray.
Yet poor Ferru mamaged to win a set lifted by the crowd.
We could all feel the pain in his legs...

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:37 am

Monf - Raonic should be good, at last a match we can't predict with ease!

Will go for Le Monf, though don't mind if Mr Lada wins either.

Monf's talent deserves at least a slam final!

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:42 am

I think Moya is a good choice for Raonic...he needed someone light and smiling in his nervous, tense camp.

This is Monfils's match to lose on paper.

Can a leopard change his spots, though?

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:56 am

Monfils could have easily broken at 1:1, too conservative trying to test Raonic's BH and movement...

I am afraid that tactics won't work as Raonic is ripping all his shots.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:57 am

Raonic will have his chances against Murray. Monfils can't beat Murray on HC.. He can't even make him run for long..

So for the sake of atleast some balance in the semis in both halves.. I want Raonic to win this QF.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:02 am

Did Raonic REALLY need to raise his hand and interrupt Monf's servce motion before 2nd serve on a break point?...after 2 DFs ...?

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:03 am

Murray will beat Rao with more ease than he'd beat Monfils imo.....cause once he brings the serve back..it's going to be a one way traffic. Whereas Monfils could tire Murray.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:13 am

Tenez wrote:Murray will beat Rao with more ease than he'd beat Monfils imo.....cause once he brings the serve back..it's going to be a one way traffic. Whereas Monfils could tire Murray.
I thought the same thing...
Raonic is still mechanical (I suppose that will never change). Stiff hands, too.
Fast court actually only suits his serve, his best surface will be clay.

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Post by luvsports! Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:16 am

noleisthebest wrote:I think Moya is a good choice for Raonic...he needed someone light and smiling in his nervous, tense camp.

This is Monfils's match to lose on paper.

Can a leopard change his spots, though?

Why is it his to lose on paper?

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:18 am

Clearly what Moya has brought that Ljubo did not is fitness.

Rao is much lighter on his feet....because he has much less fat than a year or 2 ago.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:26 am

luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I think Moya is a good choice for Raonic...he needed someone light and smiling in his nervous, tense camp.
This is Monfils's match to lose on paper.
Can a leopard change his spots, though?
Why is it his to lose on paper?
Because Monfils is a better player.
Better shots, better hands, better movement, it's all natural with him.

Raonic is like a laboriously and fussily arranged still nature.

Monfls should have broken him in the third game, instead he got broken himself innthe next. Too generous.
And I suppose lack of focus, which is often the problem of talented people.

Those who have little hold into it for dear life.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:29 am

Tenez wrote:Clearly what Moya has brought that Ljubo did not is fitness.

Rao is much lighter on his feet....because he has much less fat than a year or 2 ago.
How do you notice that?
To me his legs look bigger than before (upoer).

Yes lighter on his feet, but still moving like a tractor around his BH.

Interesting to notice all those little changes and how they evolve a player's game and the game in general.

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Post by luvsports! Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:32 am

noleisthebest wrote:
luvsports! wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:I think Moya is a good choice for Raonic...he needed someone light and smiling in his nervous, tense camp.
This is Monfils's match to lose on paper.
Can a leopard change his spots, though?
Why is it his to lose on paper?
Because Monfils is a better player.
Better shots, better hands, better movement, it's all natural with him.

Raonic is like a laboriously and fussily arranged still nature.

Monfls should have broken him in the third game, instead he got broken himself innthe next. Too generous.
And I suppose lack of focus, which is often the problem of talented people.

Those who have little hold into it for dear life.

Better maybe, but less effective.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:34 am

Tenez wrote:Murray will beat Rao with more ease than he'd beat Monfils imo.....cause once he brings the serve back..it's going to be a one way traffic. Whereas Monfils could tire Murray.

Their h2h is 3-3 and I won't count their last WTF meeting when Raonic was just returning from injury. Only Nadal returns from injuries like no other.

Raonic now is playing better. I would fancy his chances..

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:42 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Clearly what Moya has brought that Ljubo did not is fitness.

Rao is much lighter on his feet....because he has much less fat than a year or 2 ago.
How do you notice that?
To me his legs look bigger than before (upoer).

Yes lighter on his feet, but still moving like a tractor around his BH.

Interesting to notice all those little changes and how they evolve a player's  game and the game in general.

Easy. Look a picture of his face a year or 2 ago. He has no chicks anymore. His jaws are much more shaped. Adding simply muscles is not as efficient as improving your muscle/fat ratio. That's where they are all going, Djoko first.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:47 am

Tenez wrote:
Easy. Look a picture of his face a year or 2 ago. He has no chicks anymore. His jaws are much more shaped. Adding simply muscles is not as efficient as improving your muscle/fat ratio.
Interesting.
I can see the obvious benefit - carrying less weight, is there another one? Better oxygen matabolism?
Tenez wrote:That's where they are all going, Djoko first.
Yes, he has been scarily lean through patches of last few years.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:52 am

Monfils and Nishikori the opposite problem:
The former is scared to go for his shots and the latter not.
Result is the same, though!

Hard to find the right balance, isn't it?

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:54 am

AO has finally come alive for me...first time I heard my own voice! diva

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:01 am

I know this would not be good for the semi, but I'd love to see these two fight&scramble for it raw in the fifth set, with Monfils winning with some crazy shot and Rod Laver crowd erupting wild!

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:04 am

I won't be able to see fed Djoko tomorrow! Grr

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:07 am

Tenez wrote:I won't be able to see fed Djoko tomorrow! Grr
Can't you install a little tv there behind the sofa?!

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Post by luvsports! Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:09 am

Tenez wrote:I won't be able to see fed Djoko tomorrow! Grr

Me too :'(

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:19 am

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:I won't be able to see fed Djoko tomorrow! Grr
Can't you install a little tv there behind the sofa?!
I wish. I am not sure my client is into tennis though and I personally woudl not want to face him behind a sofa.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:20 am

I have always found the way to watch tennis...even when I worked as a teacher in Serbia!!!!

Would have the whole class watch it and then write an essay about it! Bubbly Run

Totally shameless! Winking

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:22 am

yeah...I have done pretty well too over the years....But often missed key matches.....like fed Djoko Wimby 12.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:24 am

One thing were Murray will have to be careful....is his second serve..cause Rao might like it.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:27 am

For a tall guy, Rao is good at picking up the short balls behind teh net. But that's much thanks to modern strings.

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Post by luvsports! Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:29 am

He actually has a good slice for a guy who looks very clunky.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:40 am

luvsports! wrote:He actually has a good slice for a guy who looks very clunky.
yep...but even his topspin FH is good close to the net and that requires a quick wrist.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:43 am

With his athletism, Monfils should be much better.....just too loose a player. Lacks professionalism...and guts at times.

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Post by raiders_of_the_lost_ark Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:20 am

Tenez wrote:With his athletism, Monfils should be much better.....just too loose a player. Lacks professionalism...and guts at times.

Professionalism is the key in Modern Pro Tennis. Its takes time to come into that zone and not all even can. The days of outbreak players winning slams is over for ever. Not possible for a young 18-19 something come up and beat everyone out there.

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Post by bogbrush Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:29 am

Raonic is much improved. If Murray allows his 1st serve % to slip he will be troubled as Raonic will pressurise him.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:32 am

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Tenez wrote:With his athletism, Monfils should be much better.....just too loose a player. Lacks professionalism...and guts at times.

Professionalism is the key in Modern Pro Tennis. Its takes time to come into that zone and not all even can. The days of outbreak players winning slams is over for ever. Not possible for a young 18-19 something come up and beat everyone out there.
Nope...unless they speed up the conds...then a young great serve volleyer could have a chance...but even then, it would be very tough.

And because of that players are peaking later. Before they peaked later as well but more youngsters coudl catch up earlier and that made staying at the top harder.


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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:33 am

bogbrush wrote:Raonic is much improved. If Murray allows his 1st serve % to slip he will be troubled as Raonic will pressurise him.

Yes but as said earlier....Rao's serve will also be under much more pressure than v Stan or Monfils....this is why I don't fancy Rao's chances much.

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:54 am

bogbrush wrote:Raonic is much improved. If Murray allows his 1st serve % to slip he will be troubled as Raonic will pressurise him.
Naaah....everything's the same...just the updated version with a few fixed bugs enough to keep up with the tour...
Murray is going to crunch him like a Rubik's cube...

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:09 pm

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luvsports! wrote:He actually has a good slice for a guy who looks very clunky.
yep...but even his topspin FH is good close to the net and that requires a quick wrist.
Yes, but it's a mechanical wrist, same as Nole's...except that Nole's got fire in the belly and Raonic doesn't.

Milos is a salon boy, a tamed, sanitised bull castrated by Canadian $$$. A prim and proper character with tons of pressure from everywhere...esp from his parents looking at him like a pair of neurotic psychiatrists from the box.
It would have been better if they were a healthy pair of Chavs like Nole's mum and esp dad with that t-shirt of his son emblazoned across his chest, that's what I love! Pure fire and love.

In a way, I feel sorry for Milos. He is suffering.

Maybe one day he'll be able to release the wild Serb in him and really let rip. Winking

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Post by noleisthebest Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:20 pm

Tenez wrote:With his athletism, Monfils should be much better.....just too loose a player. Lacks professionalism...and guts at times.
I think it's the guts and ego. Same as Nishi.
And Kyrgios.

And isn't it funny how they all deal with it in a different way.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:26 pm

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luvsports! wrote:He actually has a good slice for a guy who looks very clunky.
yep...but even his topspin FH is good close to the net and that requires a quick wrist.
Yes, but it's a mechanical wrist, same as Nole's...except that Nole's got fire in the belly and Raonic doesn't.

Milos is a salon boy, a tamed, sanitised bull castrated by Canadian $$$. A prim and proper character with tons of pressure from everywhere...esp from his parents looking at him like a pair of neurotic psychiatrists from the box.
It would have been better if they were a healthy pair of Chavs like Nole's mum and esp dad with that t-shirt of his son emblazoned across his chest, that's what I love! Pure fire and love.

In a way, I feel sorry for Milos. He is suffering.

Maybe one day he'll be able to release the wild Serb in him and really let rip. Winking


But mechanical makes professional. That's what they are all trying to do/have: reliable shots! It's key!

LOL! off you go again against money and the system...You should just watch the Futures and challengers, you'd have much more fun! Is he Serb? I thought he was Croat.

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Post by Tenez Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:28 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:With his athletism, Monfils should be much better.....just too loose a player. Lacks professionalism...and guts at times.
I think it's the guts and ego. Same as Nishi.
And Kyrgios.

And isn't it funny how they all deal with it in a different way.

Unless he learns to stay closer to the lines...something he shoudl do by now. At least Nishi plays close so he has guts.....but lacks confidence and panick....but there he will improve if he keeps close to lines.

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