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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:12 pm

Castle is pissed off cuase Murray got a time violation.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:12 pm

Goffin pushing for the right tactics...make Murray move.....but for that he needs the referee to apply the 20s rule.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by DECIMA on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:23 pm

Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by DECIMA on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:24 pm

This is meant to be the surface he moves worst on... and he's been tremendously fast.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:28 pm

Only an injury can save Goffin. In 4 years, when he will be 28 he will be a much better player than Murray....but for now he is still learning.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:29 pm

DONALD TRUMP wrote:This is meant to be the surface he moves worst on... and he's been tremendously fast.

Yes....Goffin's lack of power makes him look faster than he is though.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:56 pm

DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:57 pm

Goffin was not far from winning that game and set.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:02 pm

Just tuned back in to hear Lloyd's voice:"It's an endurance factor".

Folowed by Goffin squandering another easy volley...he is not quite a Nishikori im the lack of heart department, but not far off.
Why is he so nervous?

Must be inexperience, pressure...ah well...these matches can make you or break you, though he is still young and can recover in years to come.
But what are the chances of him playing another Davis Cup final?

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by DECIMA on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:05 pm

Tenez wrote:
DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.
Djokovic and Murray are both very fast.. I'd say Murray is marginally quicker (although Djokovic better at stretching). Nadal considerably slower now than what he was before, and Murray.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:06 pm

Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:07 pm

DONALD TRUMP wrote:
Tenez wrote:
DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.
Djokovic and Murray are both very fast.. I'd say Murray is marginally quicker (although Djokovic better at stretching). Nadal considerably slower now than what he was before, and Murray.
And what are you basing this on? Have you clocked it? Seeing that you see Murray quicker than Djoko your senses are completely fogged.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:09 pm

I would love Murray to lose their s and the winner to be decided in the fifth rubber.

That would be Davis Cup at its finest.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:13 pm

Yes...I'd like the final rubber to matter.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:18 pm

Murray moonballing the fh. Not a pretty sight.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:20 pm

After a point like that Murray should be dead....but he wont be.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:23 pm

Tenez wrote:After a point like that Murray should be dead....but he wont be.
If by some miracle he loses this set and the next one...then the fifth one may be more interesting to watch.

But Goffin is going to tire, too. He can't last another two sets having to work so hard just for one point.

Ok...I am even settling even for what I am seeing now: Goffin showing heart (at last!) and making Murray feel not so smug.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:24 pm

that ace was out from Murray....the mark was clear....bizarre from Goffin.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:25 pm

Break! Yaaay! Somersault

Now, pleeeeease, pleeeease hold serve!!!

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:26 pm

If both tire, Murray has more to lose. the more Murray tire the less Goffin will have to run.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:28 pm

Tenez wrote:If both tire, Murray has more to lose. the more Murray tire the less Goffin will have to run.
Unfortunately, the game is such now that the undoped player will be too tired even for a non-running Murray...look how short Goffin's shots have become...and he doesn't even muscle them...

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:30 pm

And serve he does not hold...but as this is clay and they are both tired...maybe it doesn't even matter.

Cool head on shoulders will win this set.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:33 pm

Much harder to do when ur a lightweight 5'11 player with a player who runs down everything, to have a "cool head" on shoulders.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:41 pm

British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to their offices...

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:42 pm

A much closer match than I woudl have thought,

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:43 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?
Heard of confirmation bias?

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:44 pm

Lol.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:45 pm

luvsports! wrote:Murray moonballing the fh. Not a pretty sight.
It's clay. Not an unreasonable tactic to recover court position surely.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:49 pm

noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...
You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:50 pm

I blame Western foreign policy for Belgium losing Winking

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:52 pm

You were right NITB...it was Goffin tiring first.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:54 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...
You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

No, just not biased on a national basis so can see it clearly.

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Post by Daniel on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:57 pm

It's good to have an identity... Japan doesn't complain.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:58 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?
Heard of confirmation bias?

No what is it?
All I see is a heavily juiced player who has the cheek to tell Odesnik "good-riddance", bulldoze a better player.

What do you see?

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:01 pm

FedererKing wrote:It's good to have an identity... Japan doesn't complain.

What do you mean?

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:04 pm

The last point is a very good summary.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:11 pm

Well, one of the worst Davis Cup finals I've seen.

Tennis was really poor. And there was not even any drama.

Maybe that's why all those poor fans had to drink themselves stupid! Laugh

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Tenez wrote:The last point is a very good summary.
Yes, agreed. What a topspin lob from Murray to win it. He's a real talent!

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:19 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...
You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

No, just not biased on a national basis so can see it clearly.
Yes, you are renowned for your objectivity. I'm just a flag-waving little-englander. You've got me bang to rights.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:20 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Well, one of the worst Davis Cup finals I've seen.

Tennis was really poor. And there was not even any drama.

Maybe that's why all those poor fans had to drink themselves stupid! Laugh
Would you like some cheese and biscuits with those sour grapes? Might help with the aftertaste.

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by DECIMA on Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:23 pm

Good to see you here Autograph Thumbs Up

Great weekend of sport for Great Britain

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:55 pm

Thanks DT, but do try to control your nationalistic fervour. As NITB points out, it is rather vulgar and lowers the tone of this esteemed forum.

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