Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Castle is pissed off cuase Murray got a time violation.

Goffin pushing for the right tactics...make Murray move.....but for that he needs the referee to apply the 20s rule.

Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

This is meant to be the surface he moves worst on... and he's been tremendously fast.

Only an injury can save Goffin. In 4 years, when he will be 28 he will be a much better player than Murray....but for now he is still learning.

DONALD TRUMP wrote:This is meant to be the surface he moves worst on... and he's been tremendously fast.

Yes....Goffin's lack of power makes him look faster than he is though.

DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.

Goffin was not far from winning that game and set.

Just tuned back in to hear Lloyd's voice:"It's an endurance factor".

Folowed by Goffin squandering another easy volley...he is not quite a Nishikori im the lack of heart department, but not far off.
Why is he so nervous?

Must be inexperience, pressure...ah well...these matches can make you or break you, though he is still young and can recover in years to come.
But what are the chances of him playing another Davis Cup final?

Tenez wrote:

DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.

Djokovic and Murray are both very fast.. I'd say Murray is marginally quicker (although Djokovic better at stretching). Nadal considerably slower now than what he was before, and Murray.

Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?

DONALD TRUMP wrote:

Tenez wrote:

DONALD TRUMP wrote:Murray is quicker than Djokovic and way quicker than an ageing Nadal.

You are so wrong.....again. It's comical even.

Djokovic and Murray are both very fast.. I'd say Murray is marginally quicker (although Djokovic better at stretching). Nadal considerably slower now than what he was before, and Murray.

And what are you basing this on? Have you clocked it? Seeing that you see Murray quicker than Djoko your senses are completely fogged.

I would love Murray to lose their s and the winner to be decided in the fifth rubber.

That would be Davis Cup at its finest.

Yes...I'd like the final rubber to matter.

Murray moonballing the fh. Not a pretty sight.

After a point like that Murray should be dead....but he wont be.

Tenez wrote:After a point like that Murray should be dead....but he wont be.

If by some miracle he loses this set and the next one...then the fifth one may be more interesting to watch.

But Goffin is going to tire, too. He can't last another two sets having to work so hard just for one point.

Ok...I am even settling even for what I am seeing now: Goffin showing heart (at last!) and making Murray feel not so smug.

that ace was out from Murray....the mark was clear....bizarre from Goffin.

Break! Yaaay!

Now, pleeeeease, pleeeease hold serve!!!

If both tire, Murray has more to lose. the more Murray tire the less Goffin will have to run.

Tenez wrote:If both tire, Murray has more to lose. the more Murray tire the less Goffin will have to run.

Unfortunately, the game is such now that the undoped player will be too tired even for a non-running Murray...look how short Goffin's shots have become...and he doesn't even muscle them...

And serve he does not hold...but as this is clay and they are both tired...maybe it doesn't even matter.

Cool head on shoulders will win this set.

Much harder to do when ur a lightweight 5'11 player with a player who runs down everything, to have a "cool head" on shoulders.

British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to their offices...

A much closer match than I woudl have thought,

noleisthebest wrote:Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?

Heard of confirmation bias?

Lol.

luvsports! wrote:Murray moonballing the fh. Not a pretty sight.

It's clay. Not an unreasonable tactic to recover court position surely.

noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...

You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

I blame Western foreign policy for Belgium losing

You were right NITB...it was Goffin tiring first.

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...

You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

No, just not biased on a national basis so can see it clearly.

It's good to have an identity... Japan doesn't complain.

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:Andy Murray a great returner...my foot!
Standing 3m behind the base-line on GOFFIN'S serve...on his break point.

What does that tell us about him as a player?

Heard of confirmation bias?

No what is it?
All I see is a heavily juiced player who has the cheek to tell Odesnik "good-riddance", bulldoze a better player.

What do you see?

FedererKing wrote:It's good to have an identity... Japan doesn't complain.

What do you mean?

The last point is a very good summary.

Well, one of the worst Davis Cup finals I've seen.

Tennis was really poor. And there was not even any drama.

Maybe that's why all those poor fans had to drink themselves stupid!

Tenez wrote:The last point is a very good summary.

Yes, agreed. What a topspin lob from Murray to win it. He's a real talent!

noleisthebest wrote:

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:

noleisthebest wrote:British fans with their pints, heavy-makeup and these union jack uniforms look like some drunken orgy that don't care about what's going on on the court, so long as they can vent out their "patriotism"...but then they all sober up on Monday and go to  their offices...

You really are a whingey-pants at time NITB. Atmosphere is electric. This is a great tennis occasion, so try to enjoy it for what it is.

No, just not biased on a national basis so can see it clearly.

Yes, you are renowned for your objectivity. I'm just a flag-waving little-englander. You've got me bang to rights.

noleisthebest wrote:Well, one of the worst Davis Cup finals I've seen.

Tennis was really poor. And there was not even any drama.

Maybe that's why all those poor fans had to drink themselves stupid!

Would you like some cheese and biscuits with those sour grapes? Might help with the aftertaste.

Good to see you here Autograph

Great weekend of sport for Great Britain

Thanks DT, but do try to control your nationalistic fervour. As NITB points out, it is rather vulgar and lowers the tone of this esteemed forum.