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Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by noleisthebest on Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:44 pm



GB-Belgium...who would have thought?

On paper David versus Goliath:

1) GB has won it NINE times. Last time in 1936, though.
Belgium - never.

2) Even physically, David Goffin looks tiny compared to Goliath Murray.

With Murray expected to win both singles ties - doubles match will be key.
Belgium helped by Llodra who declared himself as a personal friend & adviser.

Still, this is our last weekend of competitive tennis in 2015.
So, let us enjoy it and hope it's a good one. Bubbly



Date: 27 Nov - 29 Nov 2015
Venue: Flanders Expo, Ghent, Belgium
Start times:
Day 1: 1330 hrs (1230 hrs GMT)
Day 2: 1500 hrs (1400 hrs GMT)
Day 3: 1300 hrs (1200 hrs GMT)
Surface: Clay (Red Clay), Indoor
Ball: Babolat French Open All Court



GREAT BRITAIN

Andy Murray
Kyle Edmund
Jamie Murray
Dominic Inglot



BELGIUM

David Goffin
Steve Darcis
Ruben Belemans
Kimmer Coppejans

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Re: Davis Cup 2015: THE FINAL

Post by Tenez on Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:34 pm

It woudl be fantastic if Belgium were to win.....Not much hope though.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:57 am

I am almost indifferent but as there is no patriotism involved here, I'd cheer for Belgium because they play better tennis.

And for the sake of Justine Henin. Rose

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph on Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:01 pm

Once again, the conditions causing a travesty of tennis. Goffin clearly the better player, but Edmund able to muscle the ball past him. The fact that Belgium chose clay stinks of corruption to me. Everyone knows that Goffin would have wiped the floor with this British rabble on a proper indoor fast court.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:06 pm

Didn't get to see any of it...can't have been a great match if it took Goffin sets to beat Edmund...

In fact, such a B grade davis cup final line-up.

Zero charisma...more like a play off match to remain in the main group.

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Post by noleisthebest on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:22 pm

The court is a mudpit. Players are swimming through clay.
I saw 5 minutes, heard how Andy is a clever man whose team will need to find the way to beat Djokovic and challenge him for world number one.
The logic was - if Federer at 34 could beat Djokovic why could not Murray, too?

At which point I say good-bye...

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:25 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Once again, the conditions causing a travesty of tennis. Goffin clearly the better player, but Edmund able to muscle the ball past him. The fact that Belgium chose clay stinks of corruption to me. Everyone knows that Goffin would have wiped the floor with this British rabble on a proper indoor fast court.

Interesting comment. I actually think that on hard court Murray would be able to use his powerful leg more than on clay. On clay a slippery surface can take a lot of his mouvement advantage.

I don;t think it was a bad choice.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:38 pm

Murray is spending a awful lot of energy for the most trivial point....but he doesn't care cause 30s later.....he'll be fine!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:42 pm

noleisthebest wrote:I am almost indifferent but as there is no patriotism involved here, I'd cheer for Belgium because they play better tennis.

And for the sake of Justine Henin. Rose
I almost believe you! Winking

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:44 pm

noleisthebest wrote:The court is a mudpit. Players are swimming through clay.
I saw 5 minutes, heard how Andy is a clever man whose team will need to find the way to beat Djokovic and challenge him for world number one.
The logic was - if Federer at 34 could beat Djokovic why could not Murray, too?

At which point I say good-bye...
Yes I heard that from the best BBC clown: Mr Lloyd!

And " if Murray can beat Djoko, he will be winning slams".....mmm yeah....he needs to beat Federer too, oh and Stan....oh and Anderson....

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:04 pm

noleisthebest wrote:The court is a mudpit. Players are swimming through clay.
I saw 5 minutes, heard how Andy is a clever man whose team will need to find the way to beat Djokovic and challenge him for world number one.
The logic was - if Federer at 34 could beat Djokovic why could not Murray, too?

At which point I say good-bye...
Yes I heard that from the best BBC clown: Mr Lloyd!  

And " if Murray can beat Djoko, he will be winning slams".....mmm yeah....he needs to beat Federer too, oh and Stan....oh and Anderson....Nadal....Berdych....you name it...,.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:05 pm

Murray moonballing as much as he can!

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:17 pm

very nice game this Belemans.

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Post by Tenez on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:23 pm

What are Henry leconte , Llodra doing here?

Llodra is with the Belgian team....henry not sure.


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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:52 pm

So it's the best line up for both doubles teams.

Just saw Murray jump like an orangutan after winning the first set.

Go Belgium! diva

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:02 pm

Poor volley from Goffin.

It's this kind of mistakes that will cost them DC.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:10 pm

You can see Goffin in strugglimg with doubles dynamics and movement, playing on the cautious side but slowly getting into it.

It's an even match, and Jamie looks like he feels inferior on the court (which he is, Andy not giving him much space).

Goffin and Murray will be exhausted tomorrow.

Ooooh, Leconte looking suave in his velvet jacket!

Maybe that's his job here...Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:28 pm

Darcis the most skilled player here.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:43 pm

Very nice match.

But in general, relatively poor volleying. Jamie the only one confident and going for them.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:44 pm

Love Darcis's FH!

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 pm

Yes but a bit weak on his serve...both belgium

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:55 pm

Tenez wrote:Yes but a bit weak on his serve...both belgium
Not enough muscle.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:56 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:Yes but a bit weak on his serve...both belgium
Not enough muscle.

Exact;y that!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:56 pm

Shame Belgium squandered their break.
I suppose inexperience.


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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:57 pm

I wonder whether N
belemans would not have been a better choice than Goffin!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:00 pm

Tenez wrote:I wonder whether N
belemans would not have been a better choice than Goffin!

Quite likely. Goffin isn't doing much, too cautious...and silky Winking

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:07 pm

But they break back thanks to Goffin's great BH.

Let's hope Darcis can hold serve.

So many momentum swings...at least we have have drama!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:09 pm

When you watch all this fast action at the net shared between two players, you must appreciate Fed's volleying tennis even more.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:09 pm

Goffin is actually useless at the net....how on earth have they not chosen Belemans

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:10 pm

noleisthebest wrote:When you watch all this fast action at the net shared between two players, you must appreciate Fed's volleying tennis even more.

I find them pretty slow at teh net.....except Jamie here. But Yes fed is probably one of the best volleyer ever.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:16 pm

Tenez wrote:Goffin is actually useless at the net....how on earth have they not chosen Belemans
He is useless...full stop!

I expected him to play better.
Belemans would have given Darcis more support on the base line as well as serve.

Even if Belgium win today, Goffin will be dead tomorrow.

Btw, I find Kim Sears and Kate Middleton almost like twins.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:32 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:When you watch all this fast action at the net shared between two players, you must appreciate Fed's volleying tennis even more.

I find them pretty slow at teh net.....except Jamie here. But Yes fed is probably one of the best volleyer ever.
Well..that was my point...the pace is fast but they look inadequate and slow, B grade doubles players....hence  the comparison with Federer.
Darcis looks a bit tired.

I want the fifth set! diva

They lost this game so cheaply... Grr

Actually both Belgians are spent.
Goffin emotionally as well as physically.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:35 pm

Shame Llodra can't play...

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:47 pm

Lots of nerves, but some very nice points in between.

Goffin finding a new lease of life.
I can"t believe they didn't break Jamie's serve from 00:40 up.

Just can't win a match like that.


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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:48 pm

yes the belgium were never favourites....sadly....

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:50 pm

You can see from that close up of Murray hiw much muscle he is putting into his serve. Same as Nadal.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:51 pm

Serve is key in double and Bel has the best serve out of the 3 belgos.....real strange decision....though I m not sure it would have made a difference.

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Post by Tenez on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:51 pm

noleisthebest wrote:You can see from that close up of Murray hiw much muscle he is putting into his serve. Same as Nadal.

Yep....Murray is the new Nadal!

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:53 pm

Tenez wrote:Serve is key in double and Bel has the best serve out of the 3 belgos.....real strange decision....though I m not sure it would have made a difference.

Belgian coach probably wouldn't've been able to survive the press.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:55 pm

Goffin can't put a single low volley away.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:59 pm

Tenez wrote:yes the belgium were never favourites....sadly....

Yet they had (and squandered) so many chances...

Even now...Jamie winning his game with 2nd serve...

Darcis would've almost been better off by himself.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:37 am

Who's playin the first match?

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Post by luvsports! on Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:42 am

Murray Goffin.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:36 pm

Wasted opportunity there from Goffin.....now stress on his serve I am sure.

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:42 pm

Murray runs like crazy. he is using lots of energy.....where does that come from?

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:46 pm

What a shot from Murray...4m behind the baseline.....well outside the trameline but a flick of the wrist turns it into a FH winner.

We should have league matches in tennis like in Boxing: Heavyweight, feitherweight, etc.....

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:54 pm

it's really Samson v Goliath!

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Post by Tenez on Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:56 pm

The best conditions for berlgium woudl have been fast balls on slow clay.

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Post by noleisthebest on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:01 pm

Just started watching...Murray serving for the first set.

I am sorry, but this is ugly. Muscle, bludgeoning, not much to do with tennis.

What can Goffin do?

Nothing. Last another set if he is lucky.

Murray wins again by an opportunistic chance.

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Post by DECIMA on Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:07 pm

I'm really enjoying watching Andy here actually

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