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Tomas Berdych´s success

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:54 am

Congratulations to Tomas to the great win over Fed. What I have read from radio and saw in news, Berd controlled that match. Great success, he can be proud, so far that is clearly the greatest win in his career. He said all crowds behind Fed and he could close the match. Fantastic!!!!

No many players could do it.

I need to change my opinion, I would like to see Berd in the final with Nole. Just for change

Fed can miaow with Nadal about their friendship. Sorry for Fed fans, but I needed to nag into Fed here

I will bring some details from Tomas later on.

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:01 pm

Yes, a huge win for Berdych and a great one, as he said it himself in the press room. You must be very proud, Paul

I hope he brings out his A game against Murray, as well, mentally he is fine now, I don't expect any wobblyness, he is match-tough at last.

Murray will probably employ the same tactics as he did against Raonic.

Will be a very interesting match.

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:21 pm

Yes Nitb, he said that it is his best moments in career. As you said Tomas has matured, he can keep a focus on the game. That is a key. Tomas can win with Murray, but that will be more hard for him, after such a win.

Tomas can succeed with Murray, I would believe in him by 60%. Murray looks to be still mentally fragile and the crowds could cheer Berd little bit more than with Fed. Another great match ahead of us.

Now, I start to worry when Nole would play with Berd. Tomas has a game to face Nole. But Nole is a bigger fighter

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:27 pm

It's funny, out of the remaing players I'd like Ferrer to win. ....a chance in a million!

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:35 pm

Tenez wrote:It's funny, out of the remaing players I'd like Ferrer to win. ....a chance in a million!

I see it even smaller

Interisting statistics:


FedererBerdych
7aces14
3double faults3
63 %1st serve won 59 %
203 km/hserve speed219 km/h
4/6breaks5/11
44winning balls30
40UE21

Very good serve from Berd, need to point out.


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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:59 pm

Berdych is the one I want to win after Ferrer....but likewise, it's a chance in a million.

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:36 pm

Berd has a game to beat everybody, but I am not sure if his fitness will be enough to win it. Here I have a doubt and the final is a different story although he played a Wimby final with Nadal.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Berdych has made lots of progress with his mouvement but I don't think he has the game to beat other players best games. His mouvement and reactions are not quick enough.

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Post by Veejay on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:09 pm

I hope he makes the final now

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:13 pm

Veejay wrote:I hope he makes the final now

Me, too. I didn't realise he had positive H2H with Murray. To be a fly on the wall when Lendl gives him tips on how to handle the fellow Czech.

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:50 pm

Tenez wrote:It's funny, out of the remaing players I'd like Ferrer to win. ....a chance in a million!

Is it because it's spelt similar to Federer?

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:56 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:It's funny, out of the remaing players I'd like Ferrer to win. ....a chance in a million!

Is it because it's spelt similar to Federer?

Who knows? Just that I'd like to see his perseverence rewarded. I like his personality best out of the remaining players....actually Delpo first, then Ferrer, then Berdych or Djoko, Murray and last Tsiparevic.

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:37 pm

Oh, I'm glad Nole is not at the bottom of your list!

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:38 pm

Mine is: Nole, Berd, Delpo, Ferer

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:00 pm

I am looking at the match now and see what Tomas said. He managed to get Fed out of his comfort and from his rhytm. That wa the key. He said I had managed to destroy his comfort.

If Federer is able to dictate the game then he is hardly beatable. He can not get time to dictate the game and play technically briliant shots.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:05 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Oh, I'm glad Nole is not at the bottom of your list!

Actually above Berdych probably.

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:12 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Mine is: Nole, Berd, Delpo, Ferer



My personal ranking of characters for all QFs:

1) Nole

Berd/Delpo (the same level now due to Berd´s win, if he did not win then he is in the group below )

Cilic/Fed/Tipsy(if Tipsy would not have tattoos then Tipsy ahead of them )

Murray/Ferrer

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:19 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Oh, I'm glad Nole is not at the bottom of your list!

Actually above Berdych probably.

one day....one day....

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:27 pm

paulcz wrote:Cilic/Fed/Tipsy(if Tipsy would not have tattoos then Tipsy ahead of them )

That's funny!

Reading you yesterday I thought you were for Murray instead of Cilic.

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:28 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Oh, I'm glad Nole is not at the bottom of your list!

Actually above Berdych probably.

one day....one day....

Easy! Berdych is not too high in my list. He went down a few echelons over the recent years.

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I knew it was too good to be true....

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Paul, why is Berdych not serving and volleying much?

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:42 pm

Tenez wrote:
paulcz wrote:Cilic/Fed/Tipsy(if Tipsy would not have tattoos then Tipsy ahead of them )

That's funny!

Reading you yesterday I thought you were for Murray instead of Cilic.

Yes Ten, that is from a real life. Although I put Murray below Cilic, I wanted to see him in semi to face Fed, that was my wish. Nevetheless it is not bad to see there Berd instead of Fed

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Post by Tenez on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:46 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Paul, why is Berdych not serving and volleying much?

That's what I saying earlier, he has't got quick hands...you see this in service motion even, a bit robotic. Everything needs to be on rails with Berdych.

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Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Paul, why is Berdych not serving and volleying much?

That's what I saying earlier, he has't got quick hands...you see this in service motion even, a bit robotic. Everything needs to be on rails with Berdych.

yes, his movement does come across a bit wooden, he doesn't have Cilic's gliding motion. I was just wondering if he could work on it.
Nole's similar there, but because he is such a great athlete and not that big, he will learn how to do it well in a year or two. He needs to take some lessons from Llodra.

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:52 pm

Murray is a UFO player. He tries so hard and many times was so close, that I had just had to wish him to beat Fed in semi.

But when I see him on the court with such a tension in his face, when looks like being pursued by Indians and with his super cautios tennis, I have sore eyes from him. No way to look at his match with Ferrer

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paulcz wrote:Murray is a UFO player. He tries so hard and many times was so close, that I had just had to wish him to beat Fed in semi.

But when I see him on the court with such a tension in his face, when looks like being pursued by Indians and with his super cautios tennis, I have sore eyes from him. No way to look at his match with Ferrer


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Post by Veejay on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:05 pm

paulcz wrote:Murray is a UFO player. He tries so hard and many times was so close, that I had just had to wish him to beat Fed in semi.

But when I see him on the court with such a tension in his face, when looks like being pursued by Indians and with his super cautios tennis, I have sore eyes from him. No way to look at his match with Ferrer


Pursued bu Indians?

Laugh Laugh

He is unbearable watch..I have never seen anyone make the game of tennis look that ugly,everything he does is grotesque
The commentators have already made me "pass the bucket" several times during this tournament..imagine how bad it will be if he were to win

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:06 pm

When looking at the Berd´s match,I am staring at it. Fed in defence, playing two slices from FH side. I have never seen it before. No wonder that he looks poor on his serve. He looks like being crashed, unbelievable.

I see that Fed bounced from the wall. He can not exert his usual pressure on a slowish surface as he could do some years ago.

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:16 pm

Tenez wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Paul, why is Berdych not serving and volleying much?

That's what I saying earlier, he has't got quick hands...you see this in service motion even, a bit robotic. Everything needs to be on rails with Berdych.

Tomas has never been a great mover. I remember him at the beginning when he only stood at the base line and thrashed the ball. But he improved his move also due to playing doubles in DC, that helped him a lot. If he stands at the net he plays good voleys. I know that he has troubles with his hips from the birth. He really looks like a bit robotic

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:22 pm

Murray's favourite song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:27 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Murray's favourite song!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw[/quote[/url]]

Andy should sit in the carriage

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Post by Veejay on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:28 pm

paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Murray's favourite song!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw[/quote[/url]]

Andy should sit in the carriage

Laugh Laugh

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:41 pm

[quote="paulcz"]
noleisthebest wrote:Murray's favourite song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79bgzQ7xAVw[/quote]

Andy should sit in the carriage
yeah, and that's Lendl next to him! The other guys are LTA with all their cash always ready to help!

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:57 pm

Yesterday when I saw Andy´s match in the second set at the moment Cilic was serving for the set and Ivan was taken by a camera, I was really afraid of health of them both. Both looked like being transported to Vietnam. It is not a war, isnt it?

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:08 pm

paulcz wrote:Yesterday when I saw Andy´s match in the second set at the moment Cilic was serving for the set and Ivan was taken by a camera, I was really afraid of health of them both. Both looked like being transported to Vietnam. It is not a war, isnt it?

Maybe poor Cilic saw Lendl's face and froze to death, fogetting how to play! At last!!! we know it was NOT a choke and it certainly was not a joke

Paul, how is Lenls' involvement with Murray viewed in Czech Republic, what's the view on him in general, do people like him and was he popular in his golden days? Also, how was his stony image percieved then and now?

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:05 pm

One my personal feeling related to Ivan Lendl, when I entered into the tennis hall, where there were posters of Lendl when playing in a DC match, I was like in a paradise. His legacy is huge. Lendl is wellknown as an example of a player, who got on the top by an exertion of extreme effort. He practised so much, that some players could not believe it. He did not travel to Czech many times (has 5 daugthers ),but he has always been very popular. This year he played an exhibition in Czech and it was very nice session. Tennis in the 80s was considered as an non-socialistic sport, then there were some restrictions to travel to the West. Therefore Lendl and Navratilova emigrated in USA, where they had by far better condintions to succeed. Normal people fully understood him, no wonder. I remember when Lendl was asked to coach a tennis player and he had refused it. So, many people have been surprised when it was publically announced that Lendl is Andy´s coach. His daughters have grown up

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:35 pm

Let me guess...Your favourite one is the one on the left

http://www.gilliankirkwood.com/ercn86/uploaded_images/LENDLGIRLSANDDAD-751520.jpg

And thanks for sharing the local Lendl story

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:52 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Let me guess...Your favourite one is the one on the left

http://www.gilliankirkwood.com/ercn86/uploaded_images/LENDLGIRLSANDDAD-751520.jpg

And thanks for sharing the local Lendl story

Nitb, as always your prediction is

How do you see tonight Nole´s match?

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paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Let me guess...Your favourite one is the one on the left

http://www.gilliankirkwood.com/ercn86/uploaded_images/LENDLGIRLSANDDAD-751520.jpg

And thanks for sharing the local Lendl story

Nitb, as always your prediction is

How do you see tonight Nole´s match?

I see it straight set win. Nole is very hungry and sharp in NY. Of the remaining players he's had most success here: 4 semi finals, 2 finals, one title. Not bad

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:07 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Let me guess...Your favourite one is the one on the left

http://www.gilliankirkwood.com/ercn86/uploaded_images/LENDLGIRLSANDDAD-751520.jpg

And thanks for sharing the local Lendl story

Nitb, as always your prediction is

How do you see tonight Nole´s match?

I see it straight set win. Nole is very hungry and sharp in NY. Of the remaining players he's had most success here: 4 semi finals, 2 finals, one title. Not bad

I am also quite confident for Nole. I would like to see Nole with Bird in the final for a change.To look at Murray with Ivan for about 3 hours is too long

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Post by ... on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:12 pm

Iknow....especially late at night. You don't want to be having traumas and nightmares....Apache etc....

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:26 pm

noleisthebest wrote:Iknow....especially late at night. You don't want to be having traumas and nightmares....Apache etc....

If Andy wins tomorrow then I will start looking for a tomahawk

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paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Iknow....especially late at night. You don't want to be having traumas and nightmares....Apache etc....

If Andy wins tomorrow then I will start looking for a tomahawk

and a fast horse!

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Post by paulcz on Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:40 pm

noleisthebest wrote:
paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Iknow....especially late at night. You don't want to be having traumas and nightmares....Apache etc....

If Andy wins tomorrow then I will start looking for a tomahawk

and a fast horse!



yes, a really fast. Wait, I have never sit on a horse

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paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:
paulcz wrote:
noleisthebest wrote:Iknow....especially late at night. You don't want to be having traumas and nightmares....Apache etc....

If Andy wins tomorrow then I will start looking for a tomahawk

and a fast horse!



yes, a really fast. Wait, I have never sit on a horse

Where's your sense for adventure, Paul

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I prefer horses being under my feet against these fast ones

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Post by Tenez on Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:20 am

paulcz wrote:One my personal feeling related to Ivan Lendl, when I entered into the tennis hall, where there were posters of Lendl when playing in a DC match, I was like in a paradise. His legacy is huge. Lendl is wellknown as an example of a player, who got on the top by an exertion of extreme effort. He practised so much, that some players could not believe it. He did not travel to Czech many times (has 5 daugthers ),but he has always been very popular. This year he played an exhibition in Czech and it was very nice session. Tennis in the 80s was considered as an non-socialistic sport, then there were some restrictions to travel to the West. Therefore Lendl and Navratilova emigrated in USA, where they had by far better condintions to succeed. Normal people fully understood him, no wonder. I remember when Lendl was asked to coach a tennis player and he had refused it. So, many people have been surprised when it was publically announced that Lendl is Andy´s coach. His daughters have grown up

My favourite players of the 80s. I really was a huge fan of his. He was extremely talented but his talent was not as obvious a McEnroe...but in a way he was as much talented. He certainly was able to adapt better than Mc to the evolution of the game.

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